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LIVE THREAD: Voters go to the polls in Wisconsin's two final recalls - with links to live updates
Yahoo ^ | 8/16/11 | Brendan O'Brien - Reuters

Posted on 08/16/2011 9:43:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 08/16/2011 6:20:24 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Elections Results from the AP
August 16 Wisconsin recall election results from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

44EAGLE RIVER, Wis (Reuters) - Voters in two Wisconsin State Senate districts head to the polls on Tuesday in the last of nine recall elections triggered by the fight earlier this year over Republican-backed curbs on the union rights of public workers.

In Tuesday's two final special elections, Jim Holperin and Robert Wirch -- two Democrats who opposed the anti-union measure and even fled the state for weeks in an unsuccessful effort to prevent its passage -- are defending their seats.

Holperin seems to be in the tighter race. His rival is Kim Simac, founder of the Northwoods Patriots, a Tea Party group. Though Simac is a political novice, the district has leaned Republican in the three years since Holperin was elected.

No matter who wins, Republican Governor Scott Walker and his Republican allies will retain control of the legislature, where the battle over public workers' union powers was waged earlier this year with public protests, legislative maneuvering and court challenges.

With seven of the nine recalls over, Republicans have managed to keep control of the state senate -- 17 to 16 if they score no wins on Tuesday -- because Democrats failed to unseat three Republican state Senators in the key round of six GOP senate recalls last week.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: holperin; recalls; simac; unions; voters; wi2011; wirch; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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Usually, sanity wins out in affairs like what we witnessed in Wisconsin the last year..

Fingers crossed..

1 posted on 08/16/2011 9:43:15 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

There’s not much incentive on both sides now that control can’t change. But if I were to guess I’d say the Tea party has a bit of an edge as they are still ticked off over this BS and want to send a message.


2 posted on 08/16/2011 9:46:05 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: NormsRevenge
Prayers for this election today.

ON WISCONSIN! You're a positive example for us all.

3 posted on 08/16/2011 9:46:45 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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jUst look both ways before ya cross the road to vote..


4 posted on 08/16/2011 9:47:39 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

It would be SO wonderful if the Dems lost both of those seats! Millions and millions and millions of union dollars spent to overthrow the will of the majority, with no overall change.


5 posted on 08/16/2011 9:52:06 AM PDT by American Quilter (aka American Hobbit)
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To: NormsRevenge

Good grief, is that the Obamabus? The Debt-End Express?


6 posted on 08/16/2011 9:53:50 AM PDT by American Quilter (aka American Hobbit)
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47 Days And FR Is Still Short Of Its Goal

Take FR Across The Finish Line

Click The Pic To Donate

7 posted on 08/16/2011 9:54:09 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: NormsRevenge

A couple weeks ago I was reading that this shouldn not be much of a contest and the Dems should win easily. Now it looks like it tightened up. Not sure what the truth is about these races but hopefully the GOP picks off at least one to show how futile the union strategy was. This whole Wisconsin battle is giving me hope that we can fight back against the entrenched union/Dem/media power structure. After months of relentless lies and propaganda, Wisconsin voters are staying the course with reforms. If Walker can pull this off, he has a bright national future.


8 posted on 08/16/2011 9:55:00 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: NormsRevenge

Folks, take a good hard look at that black bus. It is a fitting nightmare & reality of the collective state Obama wants to rule!!! The Devil (POTUS Obama) is onboard!!! Hitler, Stalin & the rest of the despots of this world, in the hereafter are supremely proud of their protege, the America Hater & Destroyer, POTUS Barack Hussein Obama!!!


9 posted on 08/16/2011 9:56:37 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: American Quilter

That’s a bus? I thought it was a fuel storage tank.

Rush said on his radio show today that the Obama bus looks like a hearse.


10 posted on 08/16/2011 9:58:43 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Obama inherited a mild recession from George W. Bush and turned it into a major depression.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ewwww, is that barrys bus??? It looks like a coffin!


11 posted on 08/16/2011 9:59:56 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
It's all about turnout. The Dems are depressed...they fgailed last week, and today means nothign for them. Will they turn out with the same intensity..if not we can take both seats.

If we do take both, I think it will put a real hurt on plans to recall Walker..they won't find it so easy to get the funding for that effort..

12 posted on 08/16/2011 10:00:06 AM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO! But he should WALK 3 miles every day..)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dang! Those polecats in Wisconsin are big!


13 posted on 08/16/2011 10:03:33 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: for-q-clinton

There’s not much incentive on both sides now that control can’t change.
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Not so.

We currently have a one vote margin and that one vote is a super RINO who is threatening to switch parties. That would give the Dems their third seat and the the unions would win after all.

We need to win at least one seat tonight or that RINO will control the Senate agenda one way or another.


14 posted on 08/16/2011 10:07:23 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (w)
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To: ken5050

You bet! Go Wisconsin! C’mon GOP voters in these two districts, get out & VOTE! Throw these 2 RATs out of office for running like cowards to Illinois and derelection of their oaths of office.


15 posted on 08/16/2011 10:08:11 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: for-q-clinton
Actually there should still be a lot of incentive, because one of the Repubs (not in the recalls) is a RINO repub and failed to vote for Walker's collective bargaining bill. The dimTurds are putting lots of pressure on him to flip over to their side. We need at least 1 of the recalls today, (2 would be even better to offset the 2 we lost last week) in order to provide us a greater margin of safety on key legislation to rein in the state spending & advance a conservative, pro-life, pro-business, pro-gun agenda.

Let's take 1 or both of the elections back from the RAT bastard cowards. See how they like the shoe on the other foot when they are being petitioned & recalled.

PRAY that God will honor the efforts of patriotic men & women to throw the RATs out.

16 posted on 08/16/2011 10:14:02 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: American Quilter

Yep.....you are so on the mark!!!! Wisconsin, the eyes of the nation are upon you. Voters in the two Democrat senator recall elections, get out and vote to defeat both Democrats. Remember, your votes are for your children, your freedom, your liberty, your opportunity, your great state of Wisconsin and our great republic, the United States of America. Defeat all Democrat traitors, their labor unions goons, their greedy teachers & public service unions, etc., starting with Barack Hussein Obama and his entire “dirt bag” ilk!!! The future of our nation is in your hands today!!!


17 posted on 08/16/2011 10:14:47 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: NormsRevenge; All

COME ON WISCONSIN!!! Go Tea Party Go!!!

Now the Thug Unionistas are having to play defense.


18 posted on 08/16/2011 10:21:43 AM PDT by el_texicano (Extremism in the face of tyranny is no fault, Moderation in the face of evil, no virtue.)
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To: American Quilter
It would be SO wonderful if the Dems lost both of those seats!

The best part is, as soon as they lose even one, the Dimbulbs will have FAILED even more than they did last week!

19 posted on 08/16/2011 10:23:08 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: el_texicano

Can any Freepers in Wisconsin tell us how the voter turnout is going in the two Senate districts???


20 posted on 08/16/2011 10:23:31 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: for-q-clinton
Two important points:

First, this is an effort to remove representatives who fled the state in order to avoid doing their jobs, and secondly, it would be a huge psychological blow to the unions to have their two bought and paid for representatives recalled.

21 posted on 08/16/2011 10:25:25 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: ken5050
The Dems are depressed...they fgailed last week, and today means nothign for them.

Some were saying yesterday that that WEAC announcement about laying off 40% of their workforce (LMAO, BTW!) would energize their base for today's elections. I think it would tend to demoralize them. We'll see....

22 posted on 08/16/2011 10:28:16 AM PDT by kevao
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To: NormsRevenge

That looks more like the transport that brought Shamu to Sea World.


23 posted on 08/16/2011 10:34:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: ScottinVA
That looks more like the transport that brought Shamu to Sea World.

Is Moochelle on board?

24 posted on 08/16/2011 10:36:20 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: JRios1968
Shamuchelle.- We have a new favorite name.
25 posted on 08/16/2011 10:38:11 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: JRios1968
Is Moochelle on board?

I was wondering that myself. It does look suitable for transporting wookies as well.

26 posted on 08/16/2011 10:39:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
.. the Obama bus looks like a hearse


27 posted on 08/16/2011 10:39:36 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: ScottinVA
It does look suitable for transporting wookies as well.


28 posted on 08/16/2011 10:46:51 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: NormsRevenge
Though Simac is a political novice, the district has leaned Republican in the three years since Holperin was elected.

WI FReepers... does Simac have a realistic shot in this one? The other contest will be tougher as the Kenosha area is pretty hard-core union.

29 posted on 08/16/2011 10:49:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: ScottinVA

First thing I thought if, it looks life a suitable ground transport for a Sith.


30 posted on 08/16/2011 10:54:11 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Freedom is saying "No!" to the Feds, and getting away with it. "Speak 'NO' to Power!")
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To: JLAGRAYFOX; All

Can any Freepers in Wisconsin tell us how the voter turnout is going in the two Senate districts???

Here is another thread that has an early first person account:

Two Democrats Face Recall Today, 16 August, 2011. Vote If You Can!(WI)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2764311/posts


31 posted on 08/16/2011 10:57:29 AM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: for-q-clinton
One of the Republican, a former Democrat, might end up flipping if we don't win one of the two seats today.

Remember Jumping Jim Jeffords? He held all the cards and changed history with his flip.

Let's hope we unseat at least one of the Fleebaggers.

32 posted on 08/16/2011 11:02:30 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Not to mention the security planes and/or helicopters covering this idiot
that has to spend more money trying to convince America it wasn’t ‘me’, it was ‘them’.

Actions speak louder then YOUR WORDS and those can’t be drowned out.
Go Tea Party!!!!

No president has had more security. He must be afraid of his disappointed voters.

I personally think he sold us all out so now the ‘new’ illegal voters are all he has left to brainwash for the next election.


33 posted on 08/16/2011 11:15:04 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (democRATS—just doing al Qaeda ground work? Obama owns it all now.)
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To: marktwain

Thanks for the link!

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

http://www.jsonline.com/

Some long lines for voting in the city of Kenosha
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/127867643.html


34 posted on 08/16/2011 11:27:01 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Are we going to see the same coverage tonight by MSNBC as we did the night all the Republicans were up for recall? You know, Special-Ed Schulz live in person with the rabid crowd of bused-in, drooling public employee union lunatics behind him screaming every time the tote board is updated? Somehow, I am think not.


35 posted on 08/16/2011 11:45:10 AM PDT by Freedumb
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To: FrdmLvr

It’s a shame that only 2 of these fleabags who fled the state are up for recall. They should all be recalled.

I’m not a Wisconsonite, but I guess the others are in such safe districts they could have their heads up their ass and still be re-elected.


36 posted on 08/16/2011 11:50:55 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Kickass Conservative; FrdmLvr; rcrngroup; InterceptPoint

Good point all. I forgot about the rino that is wanting to switch. Him not switching yet...thing that plays in our favor or against us? Meaning voters will think like I did and just stay home since they don’t realize control is at stake?

Is him sitting on teh fence encouraging the rats to vote so he will flip? Or is it encouraging the conservatives to get out and vote?


37 posted on 08/16/2011 12:28:12 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: NormsRevenge
Is today the attack of the killer hobbits -- to use John McCain's term for T.E.A. Party and T.E.A. Party Express...
38 posted on 08/16/2011 12:32:34 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: A'elian' nation

Partly true, but also you can’t be recalled until you’ve served a year of the present term, so those Dems elected in November 2010 couldn’t be recalled.


39 posted on 08/16/2011 12:39:23 PM PDT by Norseman (Term Limits: 8 years is enough!)
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To: NormsRevenge

On the bright side.....Obama’s Giant Funeral Hearse will pick you up in case of a fatal accident, at taxpayers’ expense..


40 posted on 08/16/2011 12:42:17 PM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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To: for-q-clinton

I’ve visited a few Leftist sites just to gauge the pulse of the day and they all seem oblivious to the election today. I realize they’re probably not WI voters, but the “big” election last week seems to be throwing a lot of dumb Democorrupts off.

What a great inadvertent strategy for us.


41 posted on 08/16/2011 1:04:00 PM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: for-q-clinton

Important to pick off a Democratic seat to send a message to the cowards who fled the state.


42 posted on 08/16/2011 1:17:25 PM PDT by juliej
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To: NormsRevenge; Jean S; Sidebar Moderator
Is this to be the live thread for tonight's results ?

If so, it should prolly be in Breaking ?

If not, anyone know where the 'official' one is ?

43 posted on 08/16/2011 2:08:34 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: NormsRevenge

On one of last week’s threads, someone said that one of the Republicans who avoided recall was at risk of switching parties. Is that a serious possibility?


44 posted on 08/16/2011 3:57:24 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Reminds me of the movie The Car!


45 posted on 08/16/2011 3:59:04 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks for posting this.

I heard some firsthand reports from people in the north woods, I was making GOTV calls for Kim Simac. The turnout is huge, one person told me it was bigger than in presidential elections. I feel pretty good about Simac beating Holperin but I’m not going to be too confident until the results are in. There is no real voter fraud in the way up north in WI fortunately.

On the other hand. I heard a couple of second-hand reports from voters in Kenosha. The turnout is huge there too but I heard two reports that there were lots of cars with Illinois plates parked at the polling places.


46 posted on 08/16/2011 4:04:01 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: NormsRevenge

Just one would be great!
Bumping the thread..


47 posted on 08/16/2011 4:06:15 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: Norseman
... but also you can’t be recalled until you’ve served a year of the present term ...

That's illogical. Aren't these all 2-year terms? If so, NOBODY has served a year, and none of last week's elections could have happened. Nor today's. Or am I off about the 2-year terms?

I do understand they can't recall Walker because of the one-year thing, but he's a Gov, not Sen.

48 posted on 08/16/2011 4:08:14 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Even Herbert Hoover kept a AAA bond rating.)
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To: SmithL
I received an e-mail from a group called "Campaign to Defeat Obama" which claimed that one of the winners in last Tuesday's election was thinking about switching parties. I don't know anything about this group, but this is a portion of what they sent me:

Throughout today we've learned more details about the possibility that 'moderate' Republican Dale Schultz may bolt the GOP and join with the Democrats. He is under intense pressure from Senate Democrats to switch sides - in fact Schultz once was a Democrat. Schultz also was the ONLY Republican who voted against Gov. Walker's budget reform bill and then publicly criticized Governor Walker for his efforts to bring fiscal sanity to Wisconsin.

We learned today that Schultz even went to the Democrat Leader in the Senate and offered himself as a vote for them in the Senate.

This would be disastrous and would mean Democrats would be able to block Gov. Walker's agenda in Wisconsin. We can't let the Left win this way.

That's why we are going all out to win in the 2 RECALL campaigns against Democrats that take place next Tuesday. In fact, if we prevail in these two races the net gain for Democrats through this entire RECALL process will have been ZERO (0) seats. They will have spent more than $30 MILLION for nothing!

49 posted on 08/16/2011 4:09:29 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Norseman

N/M. I see Senate has 4-year terms.


50 posted on 08/16/2011 4:09:29 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Even Herbert Hoover kept a AAA bond rating.)
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