Skip to comments.Obama Talks Up Entitlement Changes as Dems Resist (Holy Cow!)
Posted on 08/16/2011 12:17:25 PM PDT by SkyPilot
President Obama has again acknowledged the necessity of doing something many Democrats fiercely oppose -- reforming entitlement programs, such as Medicare and Social Security.
On a Midwest bus tour stop in Minnesota, Obama spoke in favor of changes to entitlement programs being eyed by the 12-member congressional committee charged with finding budget savings that will get past partisan gridlock, stave off future credit downgrades and increase the federal debt.
"There have been times when our side, when Democrats arent always as flexible as we need to be," Obama said. "Sometimes I do get frustrated when I hear folks say, 'You can't make any changes to any government programs.' Well, that can't be right."
The president has repeatedly conceded that something must be done, saying Medicare in particular cannot survive without reform.
"We will not be able to sustain that program no matter how much taxes go up," he said in late July. "I mean, it's not an option for us to just sit by and do nothing."
In spite of that, just as the president suggested, many Democrats remain steadfastly opposed to any changes in any of the programs. In fact, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi boasted that Democrats had blocked such reforms in the deficit talks.
"We did protect the benefits, the Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits. That is a priority for us," she said.
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Note to mods: I put this in Breaking because it deserves to be there. You can move the thread to front page - however, this is an incredible news moment in light of recent political events, and the dire situation in which our nation finds itself.
I doubt the President really "means it" - but the mere fact that he is mentioning it on his taxpayer funded campaign misery tour is simply jaw dropping.
So....what the hell happened to Obama?
I can only guess, but it might be the "R" word: Reality.
Officials at the credit rating firm Standard & Poors, which recently downgraded the debt of the federal government, also point to soaring entitlement costs as a key reason for its action. "Entitlement reform is important because entitlements ... are the biggest component of spending, and they are the part of spending where the cost pressures are greatest," David Beers of S&P said.
Pelosi, Reid, and the Democrats are going to go ballistic, but for once Obama at least sounds like he is a rationale person.
Perhaps...just perhaps, after the S&P downgrade, the Community Organizer was sat down by senior Democrat, and shown this chart:
whatever it takes to get re-elected..
but,, I agree.. I’m semi-stuned..
the media should be all over this..
but wait, we’re talking reality here, huh?
And he'd be lying about that, too.
Oh good grief, it’s political posturing for the election, nothing more. If he wins this will all go down the bottomless memory hole.
Bull Crap! He is saying this, the committee will deadlock and he will look like a hero while nothing gets done. Meanwhile, whatever tax hikes are in that POS committee bill will be implemented, republicans will get the blame, especially when the Bush tax credit expires.
And no one sees this coming?
Reality? This person is the biggest L.I.A.R. ever.
>> So....what the hell happened to Obama? I can only guess, but it might be the “R” word: Reality.
My guess is, he’s moving to the center in preparation for the election.
The center of political gravity shifting to the right is not a bad thing. IMHO it makes it more likely that a more conservative (R) will be a) nominated and b) elected.
Just my 2c
Now I don’t care who you are, that there’s funny!
- The entire 2012 Democrat campaign strategy is based on one pillar: "The Evil Republicans Want to Steal Your Entitlement Checks and the Good Democrats Will Give You Even More Money, So Vote for Democrats."
Even with Obama "posturing", he is defusing their grenades before they can even toss them.
I guarantee you there are Democrats on their smart phones, going bananas right now.
Trust me on this.
The TEA party has Obama in a panic. He’s lying his Marxist ass off.
I mean, just listen to this deranged woman.
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Poor political strategy from Obama. These Medicare defenders on the left are crazed zealots. They will not take kindly to this. If you don’t lie and defend Medicare (even if it means bankrupting the country), then you are going down because there’s another socialist in the batters box ready to lie and defend it. I expect a Dem Primary challenger to Obama if he keeps on this line.
“Hey Moderates, do you hear me out there? I’m talking cuts to entitlements. I know I said it before but, this time I mean it.” (wink-wink)
Did you forget Welfare reform?
I thought the same thing.
There is something going on behind the scenes, and I can't quite figure out what it is.
I can speculate all day long, but the facts point to one conclusion: Obama has been told (by someone) that our complete economic collapse is even closer than previously thought.
The downgrade means that interest payments on the debt are going to increase by a large portion (how large?), and that will eat up even more of the pie.
Even if Defense is literally gutted, Federal workers pay frozen for 5 years and slashed, and active military retirement promises reneged on - that will still do nothing to stop the hemorrhaging.
Entitlements (including all welfare and unemployment programs) are destroying our nation at an exponential rate.
IMHO, Obamacare replaces Medicare and, if it doesn't, another version will come forth.
>> Poor political strategy from Obama.
I’d mildly disagree; triangulation is a reasonable political strategy, and Bill Clintoon taught us that it can be effective.
Obama is clumsy at it though, and he’s screwing it up tactically. Tone-deaf perception, bad timing, bad execution. Which is no surprise, since he’s inept at pretty much every aspect of governing. He can talk, but he can’t *do*. He’s never had to learn to execute.
If he volunteered to travel less, and with less, that would be good. But the Narcissist in Chief won’t have that.
He feels safe saying it because Reid and Pelosi stacked the commission with Rats to make sure it doesn’t happen. Obama can say he supports it because there is no chance it is going to make it to his desk. He will SAY ANYTHING to get re-elected. He is a liar and a snake. Probably going to tick off his base though.
Who would have thought the 2012 election would be over who’s gonna make the biggest spending cuts? Also, the Rats have no credibility on the issue because they had super majorities to back their rat President for 2 yrs. Why didn’t they do something then rather than ramp spending to astronomical levels and pass a new expensive entitlement?
His polling must be really bad though it he is out there saying this!
No, he won't. Food Stamps, SSI to illegals, Section 8 housing, Air To Families With Dependent Children, etc. That is his core constituency.
Washington is looking to slash money for America's heroes who are the most deserving: those who fought and bled for this nation.
If THOSE programs are on the cutting table before Entitlement programs, we are lost as a nation.
What’s amazing? His idea of reform will be to make sure the Boomers, who have worked and paid into SS all their lives but are now getting older and beyond their usefulness, get nothing and in fact are channeled off to “die with dignity” somewhere before they get in the way of the really important government spending, such as income redistribution to his base.
He can say this, but won’t provide ANY specifics or ideas. I’m still waiting for him to go through the Federal budget “Line by Line”.
Disregard everything that Zero says. Watch what he does!!
If I were working for the RNC, I would already have three scripts for political commercials already written, and the Obama footage already edited.
"Hey Congress, I made a speech about the issue, You can call me when you have a bill"
No matter how hard they spin it, they cannot sell that as leadership.
Well, he knows that Congress' ratings are much lower than his. he's just trying to distance himself from them for re-election.
What’s stupid is for the politicians to refer to entitlement ‘reform’ which is scary. They ought to say entitlement ‘adjustment’. It really will be only an adjustment, not an upheaval. Actually it will be a series of adjustments over the next several years.
A grand plan such as Obamacare is not the proper way to change our medical system or our social security system.
bait-n-switch, and get Boehner to write the legislation...
It's the other "R" word: "Reelection"
He isn’t serious at all. It is mere words that he expects to never have to back up.
ALL LIES. It's campaign speak.
ALL LIES. It's campaign speak.
Let me ask you though: is it OK for the generations after the Boomers to get screwed out of those entitlements as well, and be saddled with the debt, as long as the Boomers get theirs?
The sad truth is millions of Americans have "paid into" this Ponzi scheme for the last 3 generations. There is no money there. There is no "trust fund." There is no "lock box." It wasn't "invested" anywhere.
They spent it.
We now have $14.6 Trillion on this debt clock, and winding up even faster.
I know entitlement queens who will scratch your face off rather than even discuss changing the Cost of Living increases (as the Paul Ryan plan did) so that the programs can be rendered solvent.
This can't go on.
Ubama and the rats are orchestrating Ubama’s “Sister Souljah moment” in order to try to con the ignorant chattering class into thinking maybe he’s not the communist everybody knows he is.
Three years to make a proposal, now he sees a need for entitlement reform? Sharp as a tack, that one.
He can start with ObamaCare to see if he’s for real.
He’s seen his poll numbers.
He's so good at lying, it makes Boehner cry.
Is this bad writing or do they actually go in with the explicit intention to increase the debt?
And he’d be in good company, since they had a hand in giving him the white house
I do hope so. That will keep the Democrats out of the Republican primaries and Romney won't get win.
We paid for the “Greatest Generation,” most of whom did not pay into SS all their lives.
The very first wave of Boomers are starting to retire now, and since they were not the overwhelming Bambi voters that the young were, they’re expendable.
If the SS fund had used that money properly, this wouldn’t be a problem. But I can bet you that this is not what Obama wants.
He doesn’t want the money put out of the reach of the Federal Government and invested, and he doesn’t want the hordes of SSI receivers (alcoholics, drug users, and sometimes even for things like “working gives me a migraine,” I kid you not) dumped from SS.
He doesn’t want to prevent his homies and his lobbyists and medical appliance companies and corrupt doctors from collecting billions in fraudulent payments from Medicare, or impose a modest co-pay on the low-income folks that might prevent them from regarding a $1,000 trip to the emergency room for a head cold to be a natural right.
He doesn’t want to reform anything in the way it should be done. He wants to install Obamacare to replace Medicare, and he simply wants to get rid of people who might logically expect to collect something from the retirement system into which they have paid all their lives.
What he says never lines up with what actually happens. If he says there's going to be entitlement reform, bet against it.
I think this is really gonna fire up the Kucinich-Dean wing of the party for a primary challenge