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Rick Perry: Use Predators to track illegal drug traffic on U.S. border
Los Angeles Times ^ | 8/16/11 | Andrew Malcolm

Posted on 08/16/2011 4:56:16 PM PDT by Nachum

Two themes have already emerged in the still-early 2012 presidential contest:Republicans are running against Washington and President Obama is running against part of Washington, the Congress that gave him his early legislative achievements.The newest entrant to the GOP race is Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who touched on one of the most emotional and volatile issues sitting on the nation's debate table: border security, illegal drugs from Mexico and illegal immigrants.In his announcement speech in South Carolina on Saturday, Perry said:America’s standing in the world is in peril, not only because of disastrous economic policies, but

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KEYWORDS: border; domesticdrones; drones; dronesbp; dronesdrugwar; dronesus; perry; predators; rick; rickperry; track
Waiting for the WH response....
1 posted on 08/16/2011 4:56:20 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Hopefully armed with Hellfires.... =.=


2 posted on 08/16/2011 4:57:24 PM PDT by cranked
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Sorry, but the Predators are not going to see the dope. It’s coming in on the trucks and cars crossing the border. Or semi subs bringing in eight tons of coke at a time.


3 posted on 08/16/2011 5:00:05 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: Molon Labbie

And coming in through underground tunnels!


4 posted on 08/16/2011 5:02:00 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: Nachum

I think that using Predators to track drugs would not be a good idea.
Fly them in Mexico would be illegal.
Fly them in the U.S. and you are spying on American citizens.
The answer is when people are caught with a large amount of contraband put them in a hard labor prison for a very long time, forty years minimum.


5 posted on 08/16/2011 5:06:15 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: Molon Labbie

“Sorry, but the Predators are not going to see the dope. It’s coming in on the trucks and cars crossing the border. Or semi subs bringing in eight tons of coke at a time.”

So use them to track the illegals! And then bring other assets to bear on the illegal bands in a focussed manner. Anything is better than what’s going on now. People on the border are being forced to hire private security teams to protect their property. What a travesty!


6 posted on 08/16/2011 5:10:18 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: Doulos1

Oh, to Hell with prison!

Make drug running a capitol offense: just hang ‘em.

Maintain scaffolds all along the border as a reminder of the penalty to those crossing with illicit drugs.


7 posted on 08/16/2011 5:11:03 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Nachum

BUT....he is apposed to closing the borders.....


8 posted on 08/16/2011 5:19:22 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: vette6387; Doulos1; Molon Labbie
“Agreed. I like some of his positions but his Foreign policy is a Major Problem for me.......”

Amen; lets get off our a$$es as a country and do something. The illegals and drug runners will think twice if something is flying overhead. especially if it leads to something happening.

Any nation that doesn't protect it's borders will be overrun by barbarians.

9 posted on 08/16/2011 5:32:10 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Nachum.

1) instead, build the fence

2) quit financing college educations for illegals in Texas


10 posted on 08/16/2011 5:44:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Nachum

THIS — I do agree with Perry on, though I don’t like Perry and don’t believe for ONE SECOND he’d do it if he got elected.


11 posted on 08/16/2011 5:48:39 PM PDT by patriot preacher
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To: SatinDoll; Doulos1

Decriminalize or legalize drugs.

The problem of drug running evaporates.


12 posted on 08/16/2011 5:56:16 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit.)
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To: Nachum

Mexico will be our next war. Their gubermint is even more corrupt than ours, if thats possible, and they cant even begin to handle the problem.
How many times have we had Mexican military on our side of the borders the last year?
Put the US Army on the border, locked and loaded. To be sure, we will not be able to cover the whole border, but someones gonna take notice and it aint gonna be us.
Start with the buffer no go zones on our side and work out form there.


13 posted on 08/16/2011 6:07:36 PM PDT by crz
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To: Doulos1

Shoot them on the spot...no prison time..that cost American taxpayers...


14 posted on 08/16/2011 6:10:42 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Drug running isn’t the problem; drug use is the problem. Legalizing drugs doesn’t solve jack-sh*t.

Marijuana/Cannabis and Schizophrenia
http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html

Overview: Use of street drugs (including LSD, methamphetamine, marijuana/hash/cannabis) and alcohol have been linked with significantly increased probability of developing psychosis and schizophrenia. This link has been documented in over 30 different scientific studies (studies done mostly in the UK, Australia and Sweden) over the past 20 years. In one example, a study interviewed 50,000 members of the Swedish Army about their drug consumption and followed up with them later in life. Those who were heavy consumers of cannabis at age 18 were over 600% more likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia over the next 15 years than those did not take it. (see diagram below). Experts estimate that between 8% and 13% of all schizophrenia cases are linked to marijuna / cannabis use during teen years.


15 posted on 08/16/2011 6:18:05 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Nachum

So, he suggests having several hundred drones patrolling the border? It would take at least that many. Politcians never can do simple math.


16 posted on 08/16/2011 6:21:42 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: SatinDoll

Legalization solve most of the problems.

It removes the huge profit motives.

It removes the street violence and crime associated with supply and demand.

It removes that aspect of corruption to customs, border patrol, DEA, the judiciary, and LEO across the country.

It allows addicts to seek treatment without fear of prosecution.

It also removes the need for ‘designer drugs’ and spin offs.

I hope that you don’t wrongly infer this as an endorsement of drug abuse.


17 posted on 08/16/2011 6:24:51 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit.)
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To: CodeToad
So, he suggests having several hundred drones patrolling the border? It would take at least that many. Politcians never can do simple math.

You wouldn't need several hundred. ISR packages on the drones these days are better than ever. Terrain analysis and intel analysis will narrow your search areas and times as well. You'd hit pretty solid diminishing returns on investment past 50 or so. Lots of operators and infrastructure to even go that high.

Either way, it's better to go after the employers and get the illegals to deport themselves. This whack a mole stuff is what we play on the AfPak border. Been there, done that. Pass.

18 posted on 08/16/2011 6:30:27 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Eagle Eye

Legalization solves nothing.

You are deluded if you think the drug cartels will give up their already established infrastructure. They won’t and it will still be violent and messy. Here’s why.

Big corporations will move to take over production of marijuana, just adding it to their tobacco production. Then they’ll use millions of dollars to influence Congress and choke off the right of individuals to grow their own, with BATFE enforcing the new regulations. Yep, doors will still be getting kicked in during the middle of the night!

And yes, drugs will be heavily taxed, which is why there will exist a Black Market operated by the drug cartels.

The huge profit motive doesn’t go away, sweetheart; it just shifts a bit.

Does this sound like an improvement to you?


19 posted on 08/16/2011 6:36:06 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

LOL...good fiction!

Organized crime mushroomed with alcohol prohibition.

Repealing prohibition relieved the violence and other problems associated with prohibition.

Tobacco has never been illegal and has never provoked the crime that alcohol and drug prohibition has.

The models are already there and proven; prohibition fails.


20 posted on 08/16/2011 7:09:43 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit.)
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To: Nachum

Rick Perry got a ‘D’ on illegal immigration.

He is against E verify, Arizonas immigration bill.

He gave illegals instate tuition to colleges.

This past July he is seen in a photo op with Acorn.(poor judgement)

This guy sticks his finger up to see which way the wind is blowing.


21 posted on 08/16/2011 7:19:39 PM PDT by doc
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To: SatinDoll

lol...Where do you get this? They’ll make it legal but make growing it illegal?

Thanks for the laugh.


22 posted on 08/16/2011 7:20:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Eagle Eye

Government will tax AND regulate marijuana if legalized. That is a given.

And there is no comparison between alcohol and drugs. Alcohol is culturally accepted. Wine is a part of Western Civilization and has been for thousands of years, as archaeologists have discovered.

My family was devastated by drug addiction and abuse. My sister is border-line schizo from marijuana use, BIL can’t seem to wean himself off of methadone, and their son has tried to commit suicide. Drugs don’t affect just the person who uses; it destroys families.

Try reading up on what opium did to China during the 19th century.


23 posted on 08/16/2011 7:21:33 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll
Government will tax AND regulate marijuana if legalized.

Already done. They sell starter plants.

24 posted on 08/16/2011 7:24:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Yeah, you just keep on laughing.

Try reading the history of this country.

Taxation, regulation, and special interests will make it impossible for a person to grow their own weed. This has been true in the past with tobacco. It was just a few years ago that laws changed so a person could grow tobacco on their own property.

The big tobacco companies would never let slip a huge opportunity to control a commodity like marijuana if it were legalized.


25 posted on 08/16/2011 7:32:27 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll
But you said,

Big corporations will move to take over production of marijuana, just adding it to their tobacco production. Then they’ll use millions of dollars to influence Congress and choke off the right of individuals to grow their own, with BATFE enforcing the new regulations.

Government will tax AND regulate marijuana if legalized.

Already done. They sell starter plants.

26 posted on 08/16/2011 7:35:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

But I ‘actually’ said: LEGALIZATION SOLVES NOTHING...

Big corporations will move to take over production of marijuana, just adding it to their tobacco production...

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The result will be taxes, regulation, and a Black Market.

The fact that they, and I’m assuming by ‘they’ you mean the Feds, are selling starter plants doesn’t surprise me.


27 posted on 08/16/2011 8:32:15 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Nachum

How about building that border fence, Rick?

Perry’s track record on the border is about as bad as Obama...esp with in-state tuition for illegals


28 posted on 08/16/2011 10:43:58 PM PDT by Haligonian (Welfare is a riot...go ask Londoners)
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He mentioned aerial drones on the border before. Looks like it's happening:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry says Predator drones should patrol Texas border (2010)

Texas gets a second aerial drone for border security (2011)

29 posted on 08/17/2011 3:45:52 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: All; Haligonian
In-state tuition passed with veto proof majorities in 2001 (HB 1403) and was tightened up in 2005 (SB 1528) by unanimous vote of the legislature.

What governor is going to oppose 100% of his legislature? Let's come to the real world.

One of the provisions of SB 1528 requires a non-citizen/permanent resident file an affidavit with the educational institution with intent to apply for Permanent Resident status as soon as able to do so.

You can always check the bills listed above or here's a two page summary called "Residency and In-State Tuition" (Acrobate PDF) from the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board outlining HB 1403 and the changes made with SB 1528.

30 posted on 08/17/2011 4:04:56 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: SatinDoll
And there is no comparison between alcohol and drugs.

Alcohol IS A DRUG!

Earlier in the 1900's there was a time that pot was legal and booze illegal, and making cocaine, etc illegal is a fairly recent development.

It is a shame that in the so called land of the free and home of the brave I have to show ID to get OTC cold medicine!

Thank you, drug warriors! Typical of those who have those with addiction problems in their live that they try to regulate everyone else!

Not all crimes are vices and not all vices should be crimes. Or else freedom doesn't really exist, does it?

31 posted on 08/17/2011 3:36:09 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit.)
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