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Ohio Business Owner Shot For Being Non-Union, Police Investigating
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Posted on 08/16/2011 6:52:44 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear



With around 25 employees, John King owns one of the largest non-union electrical contracting businesses in the Toledo, Ohio area. As a non-union contractor, his business happens to be doing well at a time when unions in the construction industry are suffering. This, it seems, has made the usual animosity unions have for him even greater, making him a prime target of union thugs. So much so, that one of them tried to kill him last week at his home.

John King didn’t plan on being an enemy of unions. In fact, he says all he’s ever wanted to do is work at something he loves doing and be successful at it—something that most normal Americans would call ‘The American Dream.’

After high school and some college, Mr. King briefly worked for an IBEW contractor before being drafted into the military. Following his service in the early 70s, King became his own boss by going into business as the youngest electrical contractor in Toledo.

Over the years, King Electrical Services had always been a small business. However, during the Great Recession, King’s business has actually improved as his union competitors have priced themselves out of work.

Unfortunately, being a non-union electrical company, King has always been on the radar of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW). In fact, in 2006, he won a significant case against the IBEW at the US Court of Appeals, after the union had improperly promised his electricians jobs on union sites if they voted the union into King’s company.

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1 posted on 08/16/2011 6:52:50 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Why so surprising? They were just acting out exactly what they are. Union neanderthal thugs.


2 posted on 08/16/2011 6:54:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach government employees how to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Toledo unions are the nastiest, rudest, lowest morons that walked the earth. Toledo won’t crawl out of its hole until the unions are weakened and the voters wake up from their stupors.


3 posted on 08/16/2011 6:56:46 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Minus_The_Bear

soetoro Approved

Government, or nothing.


4 posted on 08/16/2011 7:00:18 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Seems to be a strange lack of news about this.


5 posted on 08/16/2011 7:00:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Goonions should all be out of work.


6 posted on 08/16/2011 7:00:49 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: cripplecreek

This needs to go viral.


7 posted on 08/16/2011 7:01:33 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Obama’s communist thugs have their marching orders.


8 posted on 08/16/2011 7:03:07 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: KansasGirl

Keep bumping.


9 posted on 08/16/2011 7:03:37 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Drudge says the NY Slimes is doing a page 1 article on this incident tomorrow. SARC


10 posted on 08/16/2011 7:07:42 PM PDT by crusader71
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To: KansasGirl

I’m already spreading it around.


11 posted on 08/16/2011 7:08:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Let's Roll

Bump for non union


12 posted on 08/16/2011 7:08:05 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( BHO....the destroyer)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
IBEW thugs vandalized my car in 1978. CWA goons cut my primary phone line in the central office in 1984. Piss on unions. I do...anytime I can.
13 posted on 08/16/2011 7:09:22 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Minus_The_Bear

I think I’m pretty much finished doing business with union contractors.

For now on, any work on my home/car, whatever, is going to be an independent non-union/non illegal alien contractor.


14 posted on 08/16/2011 7:10:05 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: Minus_The_Bear
And there are those that think Unions are still useful. They have outlived their purpose and now are communists organizations with a thug army.
15 posted on 08/16/2011 7:10:20 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: onedoug

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night.

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/10/obama-flashback-if-they-bring-knife-fight-we-bring-gun#ixzz1VFRVku9l


16 posted on 08/16/2011 7:10:20 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Toledo IBEW Local 245 President

Phil C. LaCourse
Union President
Assistant Business Manager
phil@ibew245.com
(419) 666-3350 ext.12


17 posted on 08/16/2011 7:13:54 PM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: SkyDancer
Union neanderthal thugs.


18 posted on 08/16/2011 7:15:19 PM PDT by magslinger (I love that the FR spell check still flags Obama as a spelling error.)
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To: Hammerhead

The prefix on that phone number seems appropriate, somehow.


19 posted on 08/16/2011 7:15:50 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Bookmark


20 posted on 08/16/2011 7:16:49 PM PDT by mmanager
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To: Minus_The_Bear

ALL unions are EVIL, ALL unions exist to steal private property and give it to Al Franken and Obama. ALL unions are unamerican by their very existence.

I’m distressed by the fact that the narrative currently in vogue, (even among conservatives, and this is horrifying for what it means for the future of the country) seems to run like this,

“Public sector unions are REALLY bad. There are some bad things in private sector unions, too, but they aren’t pure evil like public sector unions. Private sector unions, especially at the turn of the century, were actually pretty good.”

This is pure BS! It is very, very, very scary when, even here on FR, for Pete’s sake, people do not recognize ALL UNIONS AS GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED THEFT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUYING DEMOCRAT VOTES.

I expect ignorance of this fact elsewhere, but here on FR??????????????????????

Here’s how the purely evil, anti-American, communistic, welfare-begging private sector unions work…..

I set up a business, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY (my capital and/or cash money).
I pay for the space, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay the taxes using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I supply the parts and inventory, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay for the insurance, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay the labor, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I recruit, hire, and advertise, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Oftentimes an entire life’s savings (MY PRIVATE PROPERTY) is at stake.
My future, my standing in the community, my credit, and MY PRIVATE PROPERTY are all at stake.
If I fail, I stand a good chance of being economically crippled for life.

One day, on MY PRIVATE PROPERTY that I own and acquired using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY, one of my employees, who is only in my presence because of the risk of MY PRIVATE PROPERTY, comes to me and says, “Here’s the story, Bub. From this moment forward I am going to begin organizing your other employees to work AGAINST YOUR PRIVATE INTERESTS and do everything in our power to TAKE BY FORCE AS MUCH OF YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY AS WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON. We are going to spend a great deal of time and effort ORGANIZING AGAINST YOUR INTERESTS TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO GROW STRONGER AT YOUR EXPENSE, IN ORDER TO TAKE YOUR MONEY. You might as well have your business competitors working here on the shop floor. If you do not agree to our demands, we will go on strike, make your life miserable, harass and threaten and/or MURDER IN COLD BLOOD anybody you may want to hire in our place.”

Now the one and ONLY way that such a thing could EVER take place is for the government to step in and say, “Mr. Employer, if you fire this union man, you are going to jail.”

Plainly and simply, no union could ever exist in a free society. Yes, in a free society, you should be able to form and join a union of any type at any time for any purpose whatsoever. AND YOUR EMPLOYER SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIRE YOUR HAPPY ASS IN A HEARTBEAT FOR DOING SO. FREEDOM IS A TWO WAY STREET.

I find this ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. Truly. A man strolls onto the PRIVATE PROPERTY of another man and tells him how he will employ his PRIVATE PROPERTY going forward, OR ELSE!, and hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people the world over think that the first man is not only somehow better than sub-human filth, they actually see him as a hero! To me, this is one of the most perverse and mystifying examples of twisted human thinking the world has ever seen. I can’t say it enough; you come onto my PRIVATE PROPERTY, and bargain with me, using the THREAT OF GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED FORCE, about how much of my PRIVATE PROPERTY you will allow me to keep! And this is somehow acceptable?

As I say, even conservatives, (who have escaped the liberal brainwashing that begins when we are still in the womb on guns, race, US history, etc., etc., and do not subscribe to the easy notions that are so readily picked up by the unthinking) seem to fall for this trap. Seem to believe that…

“The work place is filled with mean managers and mean bosses who were/are really mean to kids and women and workers and paid them pennies instead of the legitimate millions that they were REALLY worth, making evil white male capitalists even richer, and they enslaved them and coerced them and made them work real hard and were really, really mean. THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the government stepping in and saving women and children from mean bosses and really mean white capitalist men.”

Needless to say, each and every single word of that narrative is as totally false and ridiculous as the liberal narrative on US history, or bad guns, or evil white men. If you know people who believe that stuff, you cannot help them. Do not waste your breath on them, do not do their research for them; have them read Sowell or Williams or von Hayek, or von Mises, or Friedman, or even Stossel when they write of “sweatshops” either in today’s 3rd world or in America at the turn


21 posted on 08/16/2011 7:17:41 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

I’m a little surprised John King doesn’t carry.


22 posted on 08/16/2011 7:17:41 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Ping!


23 posted on 08/16/2011 7:20:07 PM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Obama:
“They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
Obama to His Followers: (“Get in Their Faces!”
Obama on ACORN Mobs: (“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
Obama to His Mercenary Army: (“Hit Back Twice As Hard”
Obama on the private sector: (“We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
Obama to voters: (Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
Obama to lib supporters: (“It’s time to Fight for it.”
Obama to Latino supporters: (“Punish your enemies.”
Obama to democrats: (“I’m itching for a fight.”
Capuano (Violent Democrats for Obama): (“Once in a while you have got (to get out on the streets (and get a little bloody.”


24 posted on 08/16/2011 7:22:41 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (democRATS—just doing al Qaeda ground work? Obama owns it all now.)
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To: Hammerhead

Thanks.....I will call tomorrow.


25 posted on 08/16/2011 7:22:59 PM PDT by mickie
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To: KansasGirl
This needs to go viral.

It certainly does.

26 posted on 08/16/2011 7:25:05 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

BTTT! Tactics of criminals/thugs/gangs/collectivists/progressives/socialists/totalitarians.

DEFUND (DISMANTLE when necessary) socialist collectives, foreign and domestic.


27 posted on 08/16/2011 7:26:07 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Unions are now the mafia.
If I were in one I would be ashamed.


28 posted on 08/16/2011 7:26:55 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (democRATS—just doing al Qaeda ground work? Obama owns it all now.)
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To: madison10

They’re even nasty to their “union brothers.” I remember when American Motors closed their Kenosha plant and moved senior workers to Toledo. The Toledo union members attacked and harassed the Kenosha workers until their lives were intolerable and several had been badly beaten.


29 posted on 08/16/2011 7:31:29 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Minus_The_Bear.


30 posted on 08/16/2011 7:32:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Unions have always been the mafia.


31 posted on 08/16/2011 7:36:16 PM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Wasn’t there a thread a few days ago about how some union boss said it was “open season” on non-union workers?


32 posted on 08/16/2011 7:36:35 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Minus_The_Bear

http://mrctv.org/blog/union-rep-declares-open-season-managers-and-scabs

Open season on managers and scabs.


33 posted on 08/16/2011 7:41:51 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Hammerhead
I think I’m pretty much finished doing business with union contractors.

"Look for the union label" my butt! Never would I buy something I knew was union. I don't even by union cars. I'd rather buy from Japan. They treat us better.

34 posted on 08/16/2011 7:48:04 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: TSgt

The very existence of ANY union is indicative of a weak and/or corrupt society. They are the perfect and total antithesis of the sanctity of private property, and have NO place amongst free people.


35 posted on 08/16/2011 7:57:56 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

But we’re told to fear the Tea Party - while these animals get a pass from the “media”. Pathetic.


36 posted on 08/16/2011 8:01:41 PM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Another nice thing about moving my business from Minnesota ot Texas - Texas is a “right to work” state.

I used to have some respect for IBEW - mostly technical competence. Not anymore. The union leadership behavior - now at the local level - has far outweighed any benefit of an electrician working his way up through an apprenticeship program to being an experienced journeyman.


37 posted on 08/16/2011 8:10:40 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
I hope Mr. King holds out. His hero should be J. Leon Altemose who died three years ago. I was living outside Phildadelphia in 1972 when he was targeted by building trade unions who used violence against his construction sites. See FR article J. Leon Altemose, controversial contractor, dies at 68 (Philadelphia union buster!!!). Here are the opening paragraphs:

"To his fellow "open-shop" builders, Mr. Altemose was a hero, paving the way for nonunion contractors in a heavily unionized area. He won their admiration by standing fast against unions in the face of vandalism, firebombings, and destroyed machinery and equipment at his sites. Mr. Altemose himself was beaten up at one point.

His stand represented "a bellwether where the physical violence associated with union construction activity disappeared to a significant extent," said Geoffrey Zeh, president and chief executive officer of the Southeast Pennsylvania chapter of Associated Building Contractors, an open-shop organization.

I don't recall the union goons trying to murder him, but it sure seemed like it was going to happen at the time because a day didn't go by without his sites and people being attacked.

38 posted on 08/16/2011 8:17:46 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Unions are now the mafia.

##

The mafia was more honorable than the unions.


39 posted on 08/16/2011 8:18:59 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Dark Wing

ping


40 posted on 08/16/2011 8:22:38 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Doctor 2Brains

I couldn’t agree more.

Unions are criminal organizations for the propose of extortion and thief. By all rights they should be in jail.

But your also right in a free country they could exist if there was a true monopoly and an no willing workforce.

After all an employee can’t fire an employee unless that employer can find someone else willing & able to do the same job under the same terms.


41 posted on 08/16/2011 8:22:57 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: madison10

It’s hard to believe that Ohio and Michigan actually fought over Toledo. I always like to joke that Ohio lost and got stuck with Toledo.


42 posted on 08/16/2011 8:28:40 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: Brilliant; TribalPrincess2U; PGalt; Our man in washington; Texas Songwriter; Freemarkets101; LS; ...

Obama:
“They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
Obama to His Followers:
“Get in Their Faces!”

Obama on ACORN Mobs:
“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”

Obama to His Mercenary Army:
“Hit Back Twice As Hard”

Obama on the private sector:
“We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“

Obama to voters:
Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”

Obama to lib supporters:
“It’s time to Fight for it.”

Obama to Latino supporters:
“Punish your enemies.”

Obama to democrats:
“I’m itching for a fight.”
Capuano (Violent Democrats for Obama):
“Once in a while you have got
to get out on the streets
and get a little bloody.”

-kudos to Diogenesis

— posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2764716/posts?page=4#4 by by TribalPrincess2U


43 posted on 08/16/2011 9:06:11 PM PDT by FreeKeys (Colt has a new gun, "The Union Thug." It doesn't work; it gives you trouble, and you can't fire it.)
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To: FreeKeys
Jim Malone, political consultant:

“Do you know what a blood oath is, Mr. President?...Good, because you just took one.”

44 posted on 08/16/2011 9:10:55 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: SkyDancer

The unions of communists.


45 posted on 08/16/2011 9:22:23 PM PDT by lephantom
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Obama’s fault.


46 posted on 08/16/2011 9:22:23 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: DBrow

Yes, here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2764720/posts


47 posted on 08/16/2011 9:23:30 PM PDT by FreeKeys (Labor union: a form of extortion-specializing organized crime with legal immunity & political cover)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Thi si show unions operate. It’s just normal.


48 posted on 08/16/2011 9:24:47 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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49 posted on 08/16/2011 9:44:15 PM PDT by devolve (If superb graphics offend you/HLS scroll down - If too large simply carefully back away from your PC)
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To: Monorprise
After all an employee can’t fire an employee unless that employer can find someone else willing & able to do the same job under the same terms.

On the other hand, an employee won't stay in the union for long if this disqualifies him from all jobs. It may be my right to wear a KKK robe and go to interviews (I don't really know if it is legal or not) but it would be mighty stupid and won't land me any jobs.

If I am the business owner and my policy is not to hire union goons I simply will hire contractors or outsource the job to someone who does it right. The golden rule is in effect ("He who has gold sets the rules.")

The "same terms" is not a required condition. Often same terms are no longer available. Can you buy a gallon of milk for 10 cents? I guess that was the price 100 years ago. But those "same terms" are long gone. Every new day brings new problems. If the local labor becomes too expensive you look for other labor. Giving in is not an option for a small business because too much is personally invested. A large company, full of managers who personally don't care one way or another, can collectively sell its soul to the Devil, as long as it is "convenient" at the moment.

Then why should we be surprised if thousands of business managers escaped the union-ridden, red-tape-entangled, drowning in taxes USA altogether? There are plenty of countries in the world where you can open up a shop and not be looked at as an enemy of the people; where every worker has a right and responsibility to sell (or not to sell) his labor at the personally negotiated rate, and enter and leave this contract as mutually agreed.

50 posted on 08/16/2011 9:59:20 PM PDT by Greysard
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