Skip to comments.Ohio Business Owner Shot For Being Non-Union, Police Investigating
Posted on 08/16/2011 6:52:44 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
With around 25 employees, John King owns one of the largest non-union electrical contracting businesses in the Toledo, Ohio area. As a non-union contractor, his business happens to be doing well at a time when unions in the construction industry are suffering. This, it seems, has made the usual animosity unions have for him even greater, making him a prime target of union thugs. So much so, that one of them tried to kill him last week at his home.
John King didnt plan on being an enemy of unions. In fact, he says all hes ever wanted to do is work at something he loves doing and be successful at itsomething that most normal Americans would call The American Dream.
After high school and some college, Mr. King briefly worked for an IBEW contractor before being drafted into the military. Following his service in the early 70s, King became his own boss by going into business as the youngest electrical contractor in Toledo.
Over the years, King Electrical Services had always been a small business. However, during the Great Recession, Kings business has actually improved as his union competitors have priced themselves out of work.
Unfortunately, being a non-union electrical company, King has always been on the radar of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW). In fact, in 2006, he won a significant case against the IBEW at the US Court of Appeals, after the union had improperly promised his electricians jobs on union sites if they voted the union into Kings company.
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Why so surprising? They were just acting out exactly what they are. Union neanderthal thugs.
Toledo unions are the nastiest, rudest, lowest morons that walked the earth. Toledo won’t crawl out of its hole until the unions are weakened and the voters wake up from their stupors.
Government, or nothing.
Seems to be a strange lack of news about this.
Goonions should all be out of work.
This needs to go viral.
Obama’s communist thugs have their marching orders.
Drudge says the NY Slimes is doing a page 1 article on this incident tomorrow. SARC
I’m already spreading it around.
Bump for non union
I think I’m pretty much finished doing business with union contractors.
For now on, any work on my home/car, whatever, is going to be an independent non-union/non illegal alien contractor.
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night.
Toledo IBEW Local 245 President
Phil C. LaCourse
Assistant Business Manager
(419) 666-3350 ext.12
The prefix on that phone number seems appropriate, somehow.
ALL unions are EVIL, ALL unions exist to steal private property and give it to Al Franken and Obama. ALL unions are unamerican by their very existence.
Im distressed by the fact that the narrative currently in vogue, (even among conservatives, and this is horrifying for what it means for the future of the country) seems to run like this,
Public sector unions are REALLY bad. There are some bad things in private sector unions, too, but they arent pure evil like public sector unions. Private sector unions, especially at the turn of the century, were actually pretty good.
This is pure BS! It is very, very, very scary when, even here on FR, for Petes sake, people do not recognize ALL UNIONS AS GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED THEFT OF PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUYING DEMOCRAT VOTES.
I expect ignorance of this fact elsewhere, but here on FR??????????????????????
Heres how the purely evil, anti-American, communistic, welfare-begging private sector unions work ..
I set up a business, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY (my capital and/or cash money).
I pay for the space, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay the taxes using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I supply the parts and inventory, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay for the insurance, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I pay the labor, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
I recruit, hire, and advertise, using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Oftentimes an entire lifes savings (MY PRIVATE PROPERTY) is at stake.
My future, my standing in the community, my credit, and MY PRIVATE PROPERTY are all at stake.
If I fail, I stand a good chance of being economically crippled for life.
One day, on MY PRIVATE PROPERTY that I own and acquired using MY PRIVATE PROPERTY, one of my employees, who is only in my presence because of the risk of MY PRIVATE PROPERTY, comes to me and says, Heres the story, Bub. From this moment forward I am going to begin organizing your other employees to work AGAINST YOUR PRIVATE INTERESTS and do everything in our power to TAKE BY FORCE AS MUCH OF YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY AS WE CAN GET OUR HANDS ON. We are going to spend a great deal of time and effort ORGANIZING AGAINST YOUR INTERESTS TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO GROW STRONGER AT YOUR EXPENSE, IN ORDER TO TAKE YOUR MONEY. You might as well have your business competitors working here on the shop floor. If you do not agree to our demands, we will go on strike, make your life miserable, harass and threaten and/or MURDER IN COLD BLOOD anybody you may want to hire in our place.
Now the one and ONLY way that such a thing could EVER take place is for the government to step in and say, Mr. Employer, if you fire this union man, you are going to jail.
Plainly and simply, no union could ever exist in a free society. Yes, in a free society, you should be able to form and join a union of any type at any time for any purpose whatsoever. AND YOUR EMPLOYER SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIRE YOUR HAPPY ASS IN A HEARTBEAT FOR DOING SO. FREEDOM IS A TWO WAY STREET.
I find this ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. Truly. A man strolls onto the PRIVATE PROPERTY of another man and tells him how he will employ his PRIVATE PROPERTY going forward, OR ELSE!, and hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people the world over think that the first man is not only somehow better than sub-human filth, they actually see him as a hero! To me, this is one of the most perverse and mystifying examples of twisted human thinking the world has ever seen. I cant say it enough; you come onto my PRIVATE PROPERTY, and bargain with me, using the THREAT OF GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED FORCE, about how much of my PRIVATE PROPERTY you will allow me to keep! And this is somehow acceptable?
As I say, even conservatives, (who have escaped the liberal brainwashing that begins when we are still in the womb on guns, race, US history, etc., etc., and do not subscribe to the easy notions that are so readily picked up by the unthinking) seem to fall for this trap. Seem to believe that
The work place is filled with mean managers and mean bosses who were/are really mean to kids and women and workers and paid them pennies instead of the legitimate millions that they were REALLY worth, making evil white male capitalists even richer, and they enslaved them and coerced them and made them work real hard and were really, really mean. THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the government stepping in and saving women and children from mean bosses and really mean white capitalist men.
Needless to say, each and every single word of that narrative is as totally false and ridiculous as the liberal narrative on US history, or bad guns, or evil white men. If you know people who believe that stuff, you cannot help them. Do not waste your breath on them, do not do their research for them; have them read Sowell or Williams or von Hayek, or von Mises, or Friedman, or even Stossel when they write of sweatshops either in todays 3rd world or in America at the turn
I’m a little surprised John King doesn’t carry.
They Bring a Knife We Bring a Gun
Obama to His Followers: (Get in Their Faces!
Obama on ACORN Mobs: (I dont want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! Im angry!
Obama to His Mercenary Army: (Hit Back Twice As Hard
Obama on the private sector: (We talk to these folks so I know whose ass to kick.
Obama to voters: (Republican victory would mean hand to hand combat
Obama to lib supporters: (Its time to Fight for it.
Obama to Latino supporters: (Punish your enemies.
Obama to democrats: (Im itching for a fight.
Capuano (Violent Democrats for Obama): (Once in a while you have got (to get out on the streets (and get a little bloody.
Thanks.....I will call tomorrow.
It certainly does.
BTTT! Tactics of criminals/thugs/gangs/collectivists/progressives/socialists/totalitarians.
DEFUND (DISMANTLE when necessary) socialist collectives, foreign and domestic.
Unions are now the mafia.
If I were in one I would be ashamed.
They’re even nasty to their “union brothers.” I remember when American Motors closed their Kenosha plant and moved senior workers to Toledo. The Toledo union members attacked and harassed the Kenosha workers until their lives were intolerable and several had been badly beaten.
Unions have always been the mafia.
Wasn’t there a thread a few days ago about how some union boss said it was “open season” on non-union workers?
Open season on managers and scabs.
"Look for the union label" my butt! Never would I buy something I knew was union. I don't even by union cars. I'd rather buy from Japan. They treat us better.
The very existence of ANY union is indicative of a weak and/or corrupt society. They are the perfect and total antithesis of the sanctity of private property, and have NO place amongst free people.
But we’re told to fear the Tea Party - while these animals get a pass from the “media”. Pathetic.
Another nice thing about moving my business from Minnesota ot Texas - Texas is a “right to work” state.
I used to have some respect for IBEW - mostly technical competence. Not anymore. The union leadership behavior - now at the local level - has far outweighed any benefit of an electrician working his way up through an apprenticeship program to being an experienced journeyman.
"To his fellow "open-shop" builders, Mr. Altemose was a hero, paving the way for nonunion contractors in a heavily unionized area. He won their admiration by standing fast against unions in the face of vandalism, firebombings, and destroyed machinery and equipment at his sites. Mr. Altemose himself was beaten up at one point.
His stand represented "a bellwether where the physical violence associated with union construction activity disappeared to a significant extent," said Geoffrey Zeh, president and chief executive officer of the Southeast Pennsylvania chapter of Associated Building Contractors, an open-shop organization.
I don't recall the union goons trying to murder him, but it sure seemed like it was going to happen at the time because a day didn't go by without his sites and people being attacked.
Unions are now the mafia.
The mafia was more honorable than the unions.
I couldn’t agree more.
Unions are criminal organizations for the propose of extortion and thief. By all rights they should be in jail.
But your also right in a free country they could exist if there was a true monopoly and an no willing workforce.
After all an employee can’t fire an employee unless that employer can find someone else willing & able to do the same job under the same terms.
It’s hard to believe that Ohio and Michigan actually fought over Toledo. I always like to joke that Ohio lost and got stuck with Toledo.
They Bring a Knife We Bring a Gun
Obama to His Followers:
Get in Their Faces!
Obama on ACORN Mobs:
I dont want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! Im angry!
Obama to His Mercenary Army:
Hit Back Twice As Hard
Obama on the private sector:
We talk to these folks so I know whose ass to kick.
Obama to voters:
Republican victory would mean hand to hand combat
Obama to lib supporters:
Its time to Fight for it.
Obama to Latino supporters:
Punish your enemies.
Obama to democrats:
Im itching for a fight.
Capuano (Violent Democrats for Obama):
Once in a while you have got
to get out on the streets
and get a little bloody.
-kudos to Diogenesis
— posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2764716/posts?page=4#4 by by TribalPrincess2U
“Do you know what a blood oath is, Mr. President?...Good, because you just took one.”
The unions of communists.
Thi si show unions operate. It’s just normal.
On the other hand, an employee won't stay in the union for long if this disqualifies him from all jobs. It may be my right to wear a KKK robe and go to interviews (I don't really know if it is legal or not) but it would be mighty stupid and won't land me any jobs.
If I am the business owner and my policy is not to hire union goons I simply will hire contractors or outsource the job to someone who does it right. The golden rule is in effect ("He who has gold sets the rules.")
The "same terms" is not a required condition. Often same terms are no longer available. Can you buy a gallon of milk for 10 cents? I guess that was the price 100 years ago. But those "same terms" are long gone. Every new day brings new problems. If the local labor becomes too expensive you look for other labor. Giving in is not an option for a small business because too much is personally invested. A large company, full of managers who personally don't care one way or another, can collectively sell its soul to the Devil, as long as it is "convenient" at the moment.
Then why should we be surprised if thousands of business managers escaped the union-ridden, red-tape-entangled, drowning in taxes USA altogether? There are plenty of countries in the world where you can open up a shop and not be looked at as an enemy of the people; where every worker has a right and responsibility to sell (or not to sell) his labor at the personally negotiated rate, and enter and leave this contract as mutually agreed.