Posted on 08/17/2011 6:59:46 AM PDT by nixonsnose
Got any FACTS, or just more ignorant parroted lies?
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he DID post facts, which he took the time to look up, in #19. i’ll assume you missed them accidently.
but i was previously a Perry supporter, and planned to vote for him. (you can look me up. i said many times here, that Perry would be a good president)
what changed my mind, was Perry supporters like YOU.
who do childish and vicious personal attacks, instead of honest discussion.
so then i went and did some research, and found that Perry is pro Amnesty, against the AZ law, pro dream act, campaigned for Gore
(who WAS a flaming liberal, and even if he disguised it somewhat, i expect Perry was smart enough to know that,
if he not just endorsed Gore, but CAMPAIGNED for Al Gore),
pro mandatory vaccination of 6th grade girls for STD
(even over the objections of CONSERVATIVES),
pro-Islam
(an EVANGELICAL quoting from the Quran, that denies Jesus,
and is the reason so many of our troops have been killed?),
and more.
i would like to see some SPECIFIC FACTS, on why anyone actually thinks Perry is conservative!
There is a lot about Perry that doesn’t qualify as conservative.
A Perry thread means Reagan being dragged through the mud, Reagan last voted for a Democrat President in 1948, the WWII era.
Perry was wanting to replace President Reagan with an Al Gore Democrat just as Reagan’s administration was on the verge of Cold War victory in 1988.
Reagan was not voting against himself in the 1980s and fighting to have Al Gore terminate his Reagan Revolution.
It makes a difference which historical period someone was a Democrat in, 1988 is a heck of a lot different than 1948.
In 1984 Reagan won 64% of the Texas vote, you must have been very confused during the 1980s to keep defending the Democrat opposition to Reagan.
A stupid quote, and not true.
In 1984 when Perry was signing up to become a Democrat leader and the rest of Texas was supporting Reagan, Perry was 34 years old, he was not a kid, in 1988 when he was fighting for Gore he was 38, in 2008 when he was fighting for Giuliani, he was almost 60 years old.
Actually, it should be named The Texas Trial Lawyers Tribune
“If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”
I agree with your take on that hackneyed quote. If Churchill truly originated it, instead of just repeating it, I would have to say that it proves Churchill was as capable of expressing a shallow idea as well as a sagacious idea.
That's just an asinine statement.
Right. Along with all the other imperfect GOP candidates. The reality is that none of them are perfect personally, or on every issue. I find Sarah Palin shallow-thinking and incredibly annoying. Bachmann is starting to sound shrill with the "one-term President" soundbite. Perry used to be a Democrat and there's the Texas DREAM Act abomination. Romney is an unreliable waffler on social issues, and has RomneyCare. Newt is a narcissistic egomaniac, etc. etc. etc..
Okay, it ain't the best pool of candidates we've ever seen. But they're all miles better than the guy currently occupying the Oval Office. There's nothing wrong with healthy intra-party debates, but at some point, we have to stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the "a hell of a lot better than the Marxist in the White House."
There is no defense for someone devoting their political activism to replacing President Reagan with a President Al Gore.
"Rick Perry is NO fan of the Bush family, they despise him"
"Sarah Palin supports him for President". (Look at my photoshopped picture of the two of them together)
"He's ALWAYS been a conservative. Texas Democrats were the CONSERVATIVE party in the 1980s, it was the Reagan Republicans who were liberals back then"
"Perry is a limited government Republican who reduced spending in Texas"
"He got elected Lt. Governor on his own by defeating an entrenched incumbent. George Bush had NOTHING to do with it"
"Rick Perry has NEVER raised taxes in Texas"
"Perry is a tough, secure-the-borders guy. It's the federal government's fault there's illegal immigration in Texas, Rick Perry did everything he could to prevent illegals from coming here"
Why do you Perry haters fans always tell lies? Why don't you support your choice with facts?
You and I have had this argument before, and you are immune to logic and reason. Despite your claims of being a Texan and knowing Texas politics, you obviously know nothing about Texas Democrats in the 80’s, so further discussion with you is a waste of time. You may continue to troll the Perry threads with your claptrap - I will continue to correct you as I have the time and the inclination.
Some have said that when Perry said that the Arizona law “wasn’t the right direction for Texas,” he was taking a position against strict enforcement of immigration laws. Not so – what he actually said was,This was posted on FR previously, I guess you missed it: Seventeen (17) things that critics are saying about Rick Perry It is a fairly objective examination of those things you are asserting and more. With facts to back up what it says.
“I fully recognize and support a state’s right and obligation to protect its citizens, but I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas.”
His concern was related to the portion of the Arizona law that required peace officers to inquire about citizenship status. Perry believes that the best solution is to allow officers the discretion to ask if they deem it necessary to carry out their duty.
“Texas has a rich history with Mexico, our largest trading partner, and we share more than 1,200 miles of border, more than any other state,” Perry said. “As the debate on immigration reform intensifies, the focus must remain on border security and the federal government’s failure to adequately protect our borders. Securing our border is a federal responsibility, but it is a Texas problem, and it must be addressed before comprehensive immigration reform is discussed.” Texas has allocated more than $400 million in state funding to secure the border since 2005. In the last legislative session alone, $152 million was earmarked for border security.
Yeah, me as a Texan born and raised, who's stepfather held elective office in Texas, and who has never registered Democrat although I registered about the same time as Perry, and I was voting along with the 64% of Texans voting for Reagan while Perry was joining up to become a leader in the Democrat party and in four more years to fight to replace Reagan with Al Gore, I of course was voting to continue Reagan's Cold War efforts.
In fact Reagan had such an effect on me and Perry that at almost the same exact time, Perry was motivated to become a Democrat leader, and I was motivated to go back into military service and was even seeking mercenary work to help Reagan's Cold War efforts.
Am I disappointed that in 1988, Perry wanted to end the Reagan Revolution by replacing him with Al Gore, at that important moment when the Soviet Union was on the verge of collapse? You betcha!
Both statements are true. Perry was raised in a Democrat family where his father was a long-serving Democrat county commissioner. It was natural for him to start his political career as a Democrat. He won his first election in 1984 when he was elected to the Texas house and soon became a rising star in Texas democrat politics. An opportunity to advance himself presented itself and he became Gore’s Texas campaign manager in 1988."Rick Perry is NO fan of the Bush family, they despise him"
Those too young to remember wouldn’t recognize the Al Gore of 1988. He opposed the federal funding of abortion, supported a moment of silence in schools for prayer, approved funding of the Nicaraguan contras and was against the ban on interstate handgun sales. Gore’s platform was one that a conservative West Texas Democrat like state representative Perry could support when he signed up to chair the Senator’s Texas campaign.
From the election on, the Gore/Perry partnership began to crumble and the way that their paths diverged in the past three decades speaks eloquently to the way American politics has been reshaped. Gore has sailed left, while Perry’s political odyssey has seen him tack in the other direction — and to the opposing party.
Perry says that the Gore experience helped him to “come to his senses,” and he switched to the Republican party in 1989, fully 22 years ago. Perry switched parties over two decades ago and critics somehow think that bringing it up now is newsworthy? Sorry guys, as we say in Texas, that dog won’t hunt.
If you’re interested in more details, here is a Texas Tribune article titled Rick Perry: The Democrat Years.
1988-Al Gore's Campaign Chairman against the Reagan Administration.
2008-Endorses the pro-abortion/pro-homosexual agenda/anti-gun/New York City Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, for President.
Yea, I’ve been trolling this site since 2006.
Let’s just decide based on facts. This article has some pretty important facts.
I voted for Mccain because I had to.
I’ll vote for Perry because I want to.
If we narrow our candidated to those in 100% agreement with us, the only ones left will be me and you
(and I’m not sure about you).
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