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Immigration officer comes home to find family of Romanian gypsies squatting in her house
Daily Mail ^ | 3:51 PM on 17th August 2011 | By Inderdeep Bains and Simon Neville

Posted on 08/17/2011 11:50:25 AM PDT by Niuhuru

An immigration officer returned home to find gipsies had moved in, ransacked the place and dressed in her clothes. Julia High was even offered a glass of her own wine by the Romanian squatters.

They claimed they had rented the property from her ‘son’ because she had died, and produced a set of fake documents. Miss High, 55, has no son.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: borderagency; britain; clothes; court; documents; england; eviction; gypsies; immigrants; immigration; london; officer; police; romania; romanian; squatters

1 posted on 08/17/2011 11:50:33 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: Niuhuru

I hate it when that happens!


2 posted on 08/17/2011 11:51:41 AM PDT by rod1
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To: rod1

This would never happen in the US, when it does though, thankfully OUR law enforcement and ability to own guns would put a quick fix to that.


3 posted on 08/17/2011 11:52:32 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

They Gypsies were just doing to her house what others are doing to the U.K. itself.


4 posted on 08/17/2011 11:53:21 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Niuhuru

Schadenfreude!!!!!


5 posted on 08/17/2011 11:55:54 AM PDT by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: Niuhuru

I thought the UK chastised us for not teaching that all cultures were equal? Why, “who are we” to judge one culture being superior to another? Golly, as a Brisish citizen; shouldn’t she feel ‘honored’ to host a family of Gypsies, and embrace ‘multi-culturism’?

Why, this is almost satire - in real life.


6 posted on 08/17/2011 11:55:54 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Niuhuru

Reminds me of that commercial:

“We’re your new family!”.


7 posted on 08/17/2011 11:55:59 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Niuhuru

Poetic justice.


8 posted on 08/17/2011 11:56:57 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Niuhuru

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026036/Homeless-men-squatting-Ann-Currys-2-9m-New-York-house.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


9 posted on 08/17/2011 11:57:28 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Niuhuru

Except that in a similar situation in this country, the invaders would already have her guns.


10 posted on 08/17/2011 12:02:53 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: Niuhuru

There’s only a single reason why the media covered this —it happened to one of the establishment.

If Tom, Dick, or Harry had instead suffered this, we’d never be hearing of it —probably happens every single day.

It’s the same with US border violence —routine as the sun rising for the Average Joe, but bend on hair of Our Betters and all the King’s Horses and Men come running.


11 posted on 08/17/2011 12:06:02 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Niuhuru

Its like the short lived FX series “The Riches” in real life.

That show had real potential but they went overboard and made it completely unbelievable.


12 posted on 08/17/2011 12:07:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Niuhuru

Ha! I’ve just sort of begun to get my house cleaned up and uncluttered after 25 years. I guess that will only make it more attractive to squatters. :o)


13 posted on 08/17/2011 12:10:10 PM PDT by Twinkie
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To: Niuhuru

You’ve got to love it when it happens to an immigration official. HAHAHA!

Kind of the same amount of fun I get when lawyers get sued.


14 posted on 08/17/2011 12:12:49 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: Niuhuru

FORTY-five council homes a DAY will have to be built to house the tidal wave of immigrants, a shock report reveals.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3756396/Migrants-need-415000-new-council-homes.html

Those taxpayers better get busy making more free cheese for all those GIMMEgrants.


15 posted on 08/17/2011 12:15:47 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: Niuhuru

Apparently the Brits have some weird laws about “squatting” that keep this from being Burglary, breaking and entering, theft, etc.

Can anybody from the UK enlighten us?


16 posted on 08/17/2011 12:17:45 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: gaijin

I’ve read about other situations like this recently in the Daily Mail. This immigration official got some swift action from the local police—the people in the other stories weren’t so lucky (or well-connected).

As someone else has posted, the laws in the UK seem to favor the squatters over the landowners.


17 posted on 08/17/2011 12:22:41 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: Little Ray
I'm not from the UK, but I can explain.

In the UK the law says that as long as there is no evidence of breaking and entering (and usually the first thing squatters do is replace the locks so the owners cannot get in, as well as fix any broken windows), and the squatter says that he believes the property was either abandoned or that he was given legal access to the property by someone who represented himself as authorized to do so, then it is a matter of civil litigation as to who is entitled to the use of the property.

The law presumes that whoever has possession of a key to the property is the rightful owner until another claimant to the property proves their title in court.

Once the real property owner wins the court case, they then have the right to initiate eviction proceedings and the squatters have 30 days to leave the property, unless they get an extension because of hardship.

Once evicted, they are not liable for any civil damages or for any criminal action - they are are free and clear.

Squatting has become a popular pastime in the UK because if squatters can get inside a home and quickly erase any evidence of breaking and entering, they have a rent-free place to live for at least three months with no legal consequences of any kind.

18 posted on 08/17/2011 12:30:25 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Niuhuru

Homeless “Advocates” told their clients to go down to Cape Cod in the winter and break into rental cottages. When the owners went to open the place in the Spring, it took three weeks to evict them.


19 posted on 08/17/2011 12:31:11 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Niuhuru


Well, that doesn't sound all so bad ?
20 posted on 08/17/2011 12:34:51 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
This immigration official got some swift action from the local police ... As someone else has posted, the laws in the UK seem to favor the squatters over the landowners well-connected and rich over anyone else.

Fixed that for you. If this was most anyone else, the squatters would still be there.

21 posted on 08/17/2011 12:42:43 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's called the "Statue of Liberty" and not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: wideawake

Thank you!
That is a truly warped set of laws. I wonder how they evolved? At the very least, if the owner wins the case and proves ownership, the squatters should be liable for all damages and losses. Good thing the gypsies were too lazy to get the door fixed or they would still be there.

I see lots of abandoned properties where I live, and all I can say is “Awwwwww...” and wish someone would move in and fix ‘em up and maintain ‘em. Heck, if I were a home builder type...


22 posted on 08/17/2011 12:42:47 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray
This has been happening a lot in the Pacific Northwest with homes that are owned by banks or developers.

This is because of a wrinkle in Oregon and I believe Washington law (and probably in any number of other states too), which provides that if an unoccupied home is advertised for sale and you agree to pay the seller an amount of money or credit within the price range and they accept the offer, you have the right to move in.

Typically it is a bogus offer made in the form of an IOU sent to the office of the seller as a piece of return-receipt requested mail.

By the owner signing the receipt, the "buyer" claims in court that the offer was accepted, they post 'no trespassing' signs and have any representative of the seller arrsted if they try to reclaim the property, and it can take months to prove that the IOU was worthless and not real consideration for the property.

Certain lawyers specialize in keeping these claims going for over a year in exchange for a nominal fee.

However, there will be civil lawsuits and sometimes criminal prosecution for fraud, unlike the UK.

23 posted on 08/17/2011 12:43:23 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: massgopguy

these are not the gypsies of TV or movies.

these are thieves and sleazes. Parasites.

The pictures from yesterday’s thread showed and absolute arrogance of these thieves.

UK law has to change to end this squatting epidemic.


24 posted on 08/17/2011 12:44:00 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Darteaus94025

The irony of it all is hilarious really.


25 posted on 08/17/2011 12:49:05 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: wideawake

Just... damn.
What has the world come to?


26 posted on 08/17/2011 12:51:04 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray
I wonder how they evolved?

Some say it began to be enshrined in law after the Black Death and when thousands and thousands of homes and even entire towns and villages were empty and the chain of title was lost or forgotten.

A situation where someone moved into a home that had lain abandoned for decades, lived there for years (I think the law says 12) restoring it and improving the land only to be evicted because the ninth cousin of the baron who had owned the property forty years before had finally figured out that he owned it and decided to come from a hundred miles away to sell it - well that was considered unfair.

This is speculation, but it is also the time when adverse possession became part of common law.

27 posted on 08/17/2011 12:51:14 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: longtermmemmory

Gypsies (and Tinkers and number of other such parasitic groups) are scum and, for the most part, deserve all the opprobrium heaped upon them.


28 posted on 08/17/2011 12:55:01 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: wideawake

I think it takes years to establish “squatters rights” or adverse possession in the US.
Kicking the door and laying claim to titled property should be a major crime, anywhere, as should be that fraudulent trick you mentioned in that previous post.


29 posted on 08/17/2011 12:59:21 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: longtermmemmory; Little Ray
In the UK there is a nonprofit which is called the Advisory Service for Squatters (ASS, and I am not kidding).

They publish the Squatter's Handbook, which is a guide to the law for squatters who want to evade eviction. They represent squatters in court free of charge and enable them to stretch out their squatting for months or years.

The Handbook is distributed for free by town council administrations throughout the UK and both ASS and the town councils are funded by property owners' taxes.

There are Handbook users in the UK who use the legal services and have not paid a cent in rent or legal fees for decades - even in the nicest neighborhoods in the UK there are squatters who opportunely moved into a deceased person's fancy address while the legitimate heirs waited for probate.

30 posted on 08/17/2011 1:03:08 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Little Ray
I think it takes years to establish “squatters rights” or adverse possession in the US.

It's 10 years in the UK as well. There is no question of the title owner getting their property back - it is an issue of the nonexistent penalties for violators that serve to encourage squatting. The legal burden of proof is on the titleholder, not the possessor.

Kicking the door and laying claim to titled property should be a major crime, anywhere

I agree.

as should be that fraudulent trick you mentioned in that previous post.

It should be, but it is hard to prove in court, that a person's IOU was fraudulent - you have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the thief had no intention to pay.

31 posted on 08/17/2011 1:11:44 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I’d block them in and burn it down around their ears, before I’d let them stay.


32 posted on 08/17/2011 1:12:33 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: wideawake
Squatting has become a popular pastime in the UK because if squatters can get inside a home and quickly erase any evidence of breaking and entering, they have a rent-free place to live for at least three months with no legal consequences of any kind.

That is just so wrong.

33 posted on 08/17/2011 1:27:19 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

They should just start giving out rental agreements to their liberal left.


34 posted on 08/17/2011 1:28:27 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Little Ray
Thank you!
That is a truly warped set of laws. I wonder how they evolved? At the very least, if the owner wins the case and proves ownership, the squatters should be liable for all damages and losses. Good thing the gypsies were too lazy to get the door fixed or they would still be there.


Sounds like a business opportunity for someone in the UK.

I can see it now, a “Key Registration Service” - if the squatter does not have the registered key, he must have changed the locks without the owners permission.

Someone needs to get around the stupid law, but on the homeowners side.

35 posted on 08/17/2011 2:00:08 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: az_gila

Amazing,

The ASS group

http://www.squatter.org.uk/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

From a community activist site

http://libcom.org/organise/squatting-guide

and the Daily Mail about council help -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1023513/Councils-squatters-break-in.html


36 posted on 08/17/2011 2:10:25 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; wideawake; Little Ray

Squatting is illegal in Scotland and NI, and in Scotland at least is a very serious offence and a jailable offence.

It is not illegal (ie a criminal matter) in England and Wales, it is civil. There are changes afoot to make it illegal in Eng/Wales though.


37 posted on 08/17/2011 2:13:51 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; longtermmemmory; az_gila

Please see my recent reply in this thread re UK laws on squatting.


38 posted on 08/17/2011 2:18:44 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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