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Tobacco firms sue FDA over new graphic warnings
GOPUSA ^ | August 17, 2011 | Jeffrey Collins (AP)

Posted on 08/17/2011 12:21:49 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) - Four of the five largest U.S. tobacco companies sued the federal government Tuesday over new graphic cigarette labels that include the sewn-up corpse of a smoker and a picture of diseased lungs, saying the warnings violate their free speech rights and will cost millions of dollars to print.

The companies, led by R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., Lorillard Tobacco Co., said the warnings no longer simply convey facts to allow people to make a decision whether to smoke. They instead force them to put government anti-smoking advocacy more prominently on their packs than their own brands, the companies say. They want a judge to stop the labels.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; fda; lawsuit; nannystate; tobaccocompanies; warninglabels

1 posted on 08/17/2011 12:21:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Good

but I doubt they will win.


2 posted on 08/17/2011 12:24:03 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Warnings for dangers is one thing. Interference of free trade is another. The feds crossed all kinds of lines with these new graphic warnings.


3 posted on 08/17/2011 12:24:29 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Rightly Biased

I saw those boxes in the airport in Taiwan.


4 posted on 08/17/2011 12:24:53 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Nanny State PING!


5 posted on 08/17/2011 12:25:50 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (It's the Tea Party's fault!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What next, full size autos with a decal of people eating dog food while they put gas in their guzzler, or on a plane ticket showing a terrorist with a box cutter.


6 posted on 08/17/2011 12:26:40 PM PDT by shadeaud (" If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: shadeaud

Please don’t give them any ideas.


7 posted on 08/17/2011 12:27:44 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (It's the Tea Party's fault!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I absolutely despise smoking, but totally support the contention of the tobacco companies.


8 posted on 08/17/2011 12:29:58 PM PDT by theyreallthesame
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To: theyreallthesame

The real scam is that the “graphic images” are FAKE. They’re photoshopped. Since smoking is so dangerous, you’d think they could have taken some REAL photos.


9 posted on 08/17/2011 12:34:40 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I really do think they will win this one because of the colors etc required, this comes down to a taking without due process.

If it was simply black and white and maybe even red to convey facts, they would have to do it.

Hell, the government could make their packaging be all in black and white and have the warning red, that would even likely pass muster with the courts.

The government stepped on the constitution again, hope the courts do their job.


10 posted on 08/17/2011 12:36:55 PM PDT by dila813
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I can understand the Fed's thinking: Knarly death images are well known to not appeal to young yutes.


11 posted on 08/17/2011 12:38:18 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: shadeaud

A picture of the 1,500 pound lady on the box of Twinkies?


12 posted on 08/17/2011 12:39:34 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
By this logic, abortion clinics should be required to post photos of dismembered fetuses in garbage bags on their front doors.
13 posted on 08/17/2011 12:44:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Regulation is government control of capital, and government control of capital is socialism.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why is it legal and imperative that the tobacco companies run these pictures, but absolutely forbidden, upsetting, and bad for self-esteem for Pro Life clinics to show pictures of aborted babies?


14 posted on 08/17/2011 12:56:59 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: GraceG

May be a little difficult to make it fit with any clarity.


15 posted on 08/17/2011 12:58:05 PM PDT by tal hajus ("Thank you sir. May I have another?" GOP)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

hey I really like that idea!


16 posted on 08/17/2011 1:02:35 PM PDT by airplaneguy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
If cigarette smoking is as dangerous as the government would have us believe, then why aren't cigarettes banned entirely?

Oh, that's right. There's that tax revenue-thingy and the campaign contribution-thingy that keeps cropping up.

17 posted on 08/17/2011 1:34:05 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: Rightly Biased
Good but I doubt they will win.

Good

and I doubt they will lose.

(Isn't rational conversation fun?)

18 posted on 08/17/2011 1:42:24 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Rightly Biased

If the tobacco companies had any guts, they’d stop selling to
anyone in the US. Indian reservations included. Maybe the
loss of all that tax money would cause them to think twice enacting stupid unconstitutional rules and regulations.

Mike


19 posted on 08/17/2011 1:47:38 PM PDT by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: bboop
Why is it legal and imperative that the tobacco companies run these pictures, but absolutely forbidden, upsetting, and bad for self-esteem for Pro Life clinics to show pictures of aborted babies?

Because the right to murder babies is a right protected by the constitution. /s

20 posted on 08/17/2011 2:57:47 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
But when she announced the new labels in June, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius called them frank and honest warnings about the dangers of smoking.

And that is one of the basis of this suit - there is nothing honest about this crap.

21 posted on 08/17/2011 3:25:48 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This is VERY important, although ner the end of the article:

Altria Group Inc., parent company of the nation's largest cigarette maker, Philip Morris USA, is not a part of the lawsuit.

the reason Altria is NOT a part of this is because they pushed for it. They have been complicit in EVERY bit of restrictions against the industry the government has thrown at it. They support it because the government is giving them favorable treatment in other aspects of regulations that favor them maintaining their market share.

Philip Morris needs to be brought down for the pawns of the nanny state devils they are.

22 posted on 08/17/2011 3:30:30 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Daughter just got back from Aussieland, they got those graphic warning there...

Waddya get Madz?
Hey I got a tumor!, someone else gotta removed lung. It was a big joke...

Cheapest ciggies cost close to $15AUD and brand name could cost $18/22AUD per pack.

23 posted on 08/17/2011 3:33:25 PM PDT by steveo (PETO-VT-IN-MARI-SVB-CRVCE-AVSTRALI-SEPELIAR)
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To: shadeaud

“What next, full size autos with a decal of people eating dog food while they put gas in their guzzler, or on a plane ticket showing a terrorist with a box cutter.”

How about photos of mangled bodies in car wrecks on beer cans.


24 posted on 08/17/2011 3:35:01 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Back in oh, 2002, I went down to Grand Caman for a vacation. Lots of Eropeans there, and sitting at a bar, I noticed a cig pack of the guy next to me. It looked similar to what they’re proposing here, only it was text in big black lettering at the top No graphic images.

So the idea comes from our nanny state socialist cousins from across the pond.


25 posted on 08/17/2011 3:39:23 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: boop

But it is nothing new. The anti-smoker cartel has been using these type scams since at least the 90s.

There have been a number of documented cases of the use of doctored pigs’ lungs used in displays as allegedly being human lungs of smokers. In one such case it was the Delaware National Guard that got called on it. They actually stopped using that particular section of their youth outreach shortly after that. I must admit I truly enjoyed having that Colonel stammering when I explained to him exactly what parts of what they were preaching were actually false and proving it to him.


26 posted on 08/17/2011 3:53:43 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Mashood
How about photos of mangled bodies in car wrecks on beer cans.

Better yet - on the sides of the NASCAR cars that are sponsored by the beer companies.

Tobacco companies are forbidden to advertise on those cars because it encourages kids to smoke, but advertising alcohol on cars doing 200mph doesn't encourage kids to drink - and drive?????

What is wrong with that picture?

27 posted on 08/17/2011 3:57:09 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: doublecansiter

**Maybe the loss of all that tax money would cause them to think twice**

NO, States are not that smart, so I guarantee the Feds are too DUMB too.

After a dumass NYS Judge said that NYS can force the Indians to pay $4.35 State tax PER PACK, My Reservation took ALL name brands of Cigs off their shelves.. they now only sell Indian made Cigs... they have a dozen or so diff brands. The LINE to by them have shortened ..a LITTLE, but not much.


28 posted on 08/17/2011 7:32:10 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (islam ... Cult of the DAMNED!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Notice that Philip Morris is no where to be found on the list of tobacco companies that are upset - they help write SCHIP - they are the G(overment)M(otors) of tobacco companies....*spit*


29 posted on 08/17/2011 8:29:12 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Agenda21: Dept. of Life, Dept. of Liberty and the Dept. of Happiness)
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To: Gabz
The anti-smoker cartel has been using these type scams since at least the 90s.

The evil of the anti-smoking nanny state nazis goes back (at least) to the vile John Banzhaf. We can "thank" this idiot for ending the iconic, catchy and memorable jingle, "Winston tastes good...like a cigarette should".

The jerk Banzhaf is now on an anti-obesity crusade, targeting McDonald's.

30 posted on 08/17/2011 10:12:41 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex

Please do not get me started on Banzhaf - I would be here half the day. To say I dislike the man is such an understatement.


31 posted on 08/18/2011 7:21:41 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Talisker

I hope they win..

and I get all kinds of crap from the anti smoking nazi’s around here.

It really ticks me off that the same govt that takes Millions in taxes from the tabacco companies want to make them sell less.

oh government logic isn’t logic at all.


32 posted on 08/18/2011 8:45:28 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: doublecansiter

What bugs me most is smoking is LEGAL in the US. LEGAL and the government including local governments tell smokers where they can smoke, what they need to see on the packs of tobacco they buy, and then taxes the crap out of the product.

It don’t make any sense at all.

oh and I don’t smoke.


33 posted on 08/18/2011 8:48:29 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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