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Ten things about Rick Perry that may worry some conservatives
Chron.com ^ | August 2011 | Texas on the Potomac

Posted on 08/17/2011 9:24:25 PM PDT by TBP

Rick Perry has counted on the staunch support of Texas conservatives during his two decades of statewide triumphs in Texas. He’s an anti-tax, anti-spending, anti-regulation, anti-Washington stalwart.

Richard A. Viguerie, chairman of ConservativeHQ.com and a leader on the right since the days of Ronald Reagan, called Perry a “committed conservative” whose presidential announcement “brought a wave of relief to conservatives.”

Then why are some conservative bloggers and activists warning others on the political right about a Perry presidential candidacy?

“Before Republicans start salivating too heavily, it is important to examine Perry closely,” says conservative talk-show host David Zublick. “His conservative bona fides leave much to be desired.”

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.chron.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; captaingardasil; dreamact; gardasil; giuliani; gorescampaignmanager; openborders; perry; rickperry; transtexascorridor; viguerie
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To: DRey

What ARE you drinking?

The bad blood between Bush and Perry has NOTHING to do with the border, and the majority of Texans do NOT love Perry.

Many, many of us vote for him as the lesser of two evils.

When we tell the truth about him here on FR, it’s an attempt to avoid having to hold our nose and vote for him again because the opposition is even worse.


51 posted on 08/17/2011 10:32:56 PM PDT by Jedidah (I'll vote for an earthworm before I'll vote for Obama. So wiggle on in, Rick Perry.)
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To: Tempest

Tempest, you should see the hit pic the Boston Globe did on him on the 15th. Apparently, the only way anyone can make this guy look anything other than handsome is when he’s taking a bite of food. That’s going to get obvious quick. Now scurry along to the Globe site. You know you want to.


52 posted on 08/17/2011 10:33:40 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Windflier

When did you live in Texas, Winifred?


53 posted on 08/17/2011 10:36:13 PM PDT by DRey
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To: South40

But then Rick is no metrosexual. Doesn’t give a rats behind how you eat a hotdog with a fork and knife. He compensates for nothing.


54 posted on 08/17/2011 10:37:58 PM PDT by DRey
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To: stanne

“We could do a whole lot worse than Perry”


Now that will really draw voters to the polls to beat Obama.


55 posted on 08/17/2011 10:38:52 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: Tempest

that is actually very well done...funny...he’s not my first pick but I find him more to my liking than the guy he replaced as governor

and the fact that they hate him and are on full press against him

helps him in my eyes


56 posted on 08/17/2011 10:38:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (I support Bachmann...or Palin should she enter...but I am not a Palin Harpy...know the difference)
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To: smoothsailing

lol...u have to ask


57 posted on 08/17/2011 10:40:08 PM PDT by wardaddy (I support Bachmann...or Palin should she enter...but I am not a Palin Harpy...know the difference)
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To: Windflier

It has more to do with his record on jobs, his religious upbringing, his family values, etc. Not all this peripheral stuff that is irrevelant to our country in this almost depression. http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590


58 posted on 08/17/2011 10:40:23 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Ajnin

Really? You have to use language like that on a conservative site?


59 posted on 08/17/2011 10:41:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: Jedidah

Many, many of us vote for him as the lesser of two evils.


Gov. Palin will beat him in his own state.


60 posted on 08/17/2011 10:41:45 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: DRey; smoothsailing
This accounts for the original “beef” between GWB and Perry. Perry refused to push GWB’s policies on the border and opted for a more conservative one. Upon becoming governor he went to Israel to learn how THEY were securing THEIR border, and came back to see what he could implement in Texas

DRey, I did not know that and am fascinated Rick Perry observed Israel's border security for a model to implement here in Texas. I can only guess Israel has to have a strong border as they are surrounded in every direction by one after another nation that would love to annihilate them.

I just think that is really cool Rick Perry went there to do that.

I heard Rick Perry once say one of the benefits of having states rights is the ability for states to learn what works and does not work for other states and to have that chance to strengthen what their own states do based upon what they have learned from others.

It seems like Rick Perry truly believes in that principle, learning from another country that needs a strong border to even just survive.

Bravos to Rick Perry for that!

61 posted on 08/17/2011 10:42:49 PM PDT by casinva (If Rick Santorum kisses Romney while charging after Perry, I want my nice words about him back.)
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To: SUSSA

Just a word on the vaccinations. I bothered me too. My daughter was 5 at the time and I was furious. Here are some facts. The vaccine was for preventing cervical cancer, not STDs. Insurance would not pay for it ($360 out of pocket) unless it was state mandated. Perry added it to the other required vaccinations to avoid the expense for this GOOD VACCINE, but also offered an opt-out (unlike the other vaccines) for those of us who didn’t want it or didn’t trust it. He didn’t get kickbacks. Both his parents suffered from cancer, both eventually beat it. His wife is a nurse and it was important to her. They felt they could eliminate cervical cancer in Texas and went too far. As you said, he DID apologize. He said he should have done an opt-in instead of opt-out. Of course, the opt-in would mean everyone had to pay the $360 themselves. Just the facts.


62 posted on 08/17/2011 10:44:26 PM PDT by DRey
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To: DRey

Will the authentic Slick Rick please stand up?


63 posted on 08/17/2011 10:45:29 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (O assumes the trappings of the presidency, not its mantle.. He is not presidential.)
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To: sklar

Flame away? No. That was too nonsensical. Do you even know what you said?


64 posted on 08/17/2011 10:46:12 PM PDT by DRey
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To: excopconservative
Gov. Palin will beat him in his own state.

She's running for Governor again? Heck, I didn't know she was a Texas resident.

65 posted on 08/17/2011 10:48:16 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Windflier

Then who is the man? Cain...?


66 posted on 08/17/2011 10:50:17 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: DRey
When did you live in Texas

Didn't even bother to check my profile before you spouted that, did you?

You and I have had our words, and you've proven that you're incapable of debating without resorting to ad hominems and insults. You're stalking me, and you need to knock it off.

67 posted on 08/17/2011 10:50:50 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: South40
The government forces needles into tens of millions of girls' arms each year. Perry discovered a drug that prevents cervical cancer. But insurance wouldn't pay for it. The only way was to add it to the vaccination list for school kids; otherwise, it cost $360 out of pocket -- and you KNOW no one was going to do that. So he added it to the list with an opt-out clause. Insurance companies had to pay. However, people like you and me heard about it through the media and went bolistic! How DARE he?!! HOW DARE HE?!!!!!

Long story short. Perry apologized, listened to us hysterical people that didn't understand the WHOLE STORY, and now, if you want to vaccinate your child to prevent cervical cancer, you get to PAY FOR IT, $360. Let's hang him!
68 posted on 08/17/2011 10:51:36 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Ajnin

Good grief. It’s not FREE tuition, and it most certainly does help them integrate, if they hadn’t already. I suppose now you’ll have a fit that the US military hires and PAYS Mexicans to serve in our military? Oh, no!!! You have got to broaden your thinking in your small world. Things are not so black and white as you think they are.


69 posted on 08/17/2011 10:54:10 PM PDT by DRey
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To: casinva

I’m sorry to tell you, but he’s not listening. But thank you for your post.


70 posted on 08/17/2011 10:55:49 PM PDT by DRey
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To: qman

He also thinks he’s damn good-lookin’. Let’s hang him!!!


71 posted on 08/17/2011 10:56:30 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Jedidah

What a convenient memory you have. Look it up. Perry is a danged ole shrew next to GWB’s liberalism on the border.


72 posted on 08/17/2011 10:58:08 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Windflier
From your home page.
My GG grandfather was born here prior to Texas statehood, which qualifies my family for Texas First Families status. I am very proud that I can trace my very DNA back to the soil of this most wonderful state.

As a Texan born and raised, let me congratulate you for your ancestry.

73 posted on 08/17/2011 10:59:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: casinva
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G'Night! :)

74 posted on 08/17/2011 11:00:29 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: excopconservative

You need help. Serious help.


75 posted on 08/17/2011 11:00:48 PM PDT by DRey
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To: fabian
Then who is the man? Cain...?

I'm afraid it won't be Cain - even if you and I wanted it to be. He's losing traction, and will soon be out of the race, in my opinion.

It's been clear to me since Obama was elected, that the one person who's got the best combination of skills, ideology, stamina, guts, track record, longevity, executive experience, smarts, instincts, drawing power, support, charisma, and courage, is Sarah Palin.

I've been supporting her for president in 2012, since January 2009.

76 posted on 08/17/2011 11:01:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
For the record, my wife and I have home schooled our four children since day one.

Great to meet you, Windflier! That is great you have home schooled!

Our little guys have all grown up, but we home schooled all three of ours from the very beginning up to college. Our oldest daughter graduated from a Christian college, got married, and now owns a Christian dance studio that is doing very well. Our middle daughter is in college, is married, and has a baby now, but she's still working hard to finish college still. Our "baby" son is in college now too.

When we first started home schooling, I used to think a private Christian school would be the best. I was thinking "of course little ME couldn't do something like they could." But the Lord never let us have enough money to do that throughout the years. So... we kept home schooling.

After many years, it dawned on me that we had not been LIMITED by the Lord. We had been BLESSED by the Lord.

He kept us JUST tight enough that we had to turn down the idea of a private school in so many of those first few years... but it ended up being that situation that gave us many years of learning, living, and enjoying life together.

Our middle daughter, the one that has a child of her own now, says she is going to home school as well.

I'm sure you have experienced this too, but I've always shared with others that when you home school, no matter HOW long you do it, you will have those days when you second guess yourself. Should I be doing this? Am I doing something I should not? Am I doing something wrong for my kids? Am I going to fall apart here?

Then you just get through that one day and face another, and you keep going.

The important thing, I tell others, is that you'll always have doubts on some days. Some days will be bad, and the doubting NEVER goes away. It takes a lot of patience, a lot of love, and a lot of forgiving, and that's just what we need to give OURSELVES! LOL

Anyway, glad again to meet you, Windflyer!

Looking forward to seeing more of you!

77 posted on 08/17/2011 11:03:12 PM PDT by casinva (If Rick Santorum kisses Romney while charging after Perry, I want my nice words about him back.)
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To: casinva
He observed in Israel that they used predator drones on their border. He immediately came back requesting assistance with this from the feds. You see, Texas has 64% of the Mexican border, but is only given 20% of the federal funding. Obama hates Texas. They, of course, refused the drones.

You will hear all kinds of nonsense about Perry being "soft" on the border, or even that he is for amnesty. Aside from jobs, border security is his #1 concern. He is on record repeatedly saying that until the federal government fulfills its CONSTITUTIONAL obligation to secure our borders, rational discussion on legal and illegal immigrants cannot take place. He is also on record against "a fence." That's misleading. We have LOTS of fences in Texas, where fences are needed. But Texas is defined by the Rio Grande, a no-man's land where no fool would dare to cross. Also, if fences separated us from the river, all the farmers and ranchers would be cut off from the river -- enter the drones and manpower Perry has requested.

Anyway, I'm glad to give the info on Israel. You can Google Perry and Israel and see. He's very serious about our security.
78 posted on 08/17/2011 11:08:35 PM PDT by DRey
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To: casinva

You didn’t know it because it isn’t true.

“President Fox’s vision of an open border is a vision I embrace” - Rick Perry

Perry has been an amnesty supporter from day one.


79 posted on 08/17/2011 11:08:52 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: TBP

The world holds no prefect men, the world of politics least of all.

As Benjamin Franklin once said Politics is the art of the possible. I have been made quite aware of Perry’s questionable past, and political history. What concerns me most about our canadit is their rhetoric.

Why?

Simple because I don’t serous believe any of them are going to be able to(even if they were so inclined) seriously cut down the Federal Government.
Indeed even if they did it would be almost as temporary a victory as their term of office. Any power the Federal government “voluntarily gives up” it can and will almost as quickly “voluntarily reclaim”.

We are dealing with a systematic problem here not a political problem, and we require a systematic solution. That systematic solution will of course requires political will & action to implement but not from Washington D.C..
If we are to systematically check & balance this Federal monster over the significant long run (as is required) we must create and empower anther competing force to challenge and hold it in place over the same period. In these United States that force is the self-interest of our States.
So no I don’t much care what a president Perry does (It doesn’t much matter), it’s what he says that motivates others to act and helps further reshape and reposition the political climate to where we need it to be. That is what matters at this stage in the game.


80 posted on 08/17/2011 11:09:18 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: DRey
I’m sorry to tell you, but he’s not listening. But thank you for your post.

I'm sorry DRey. I'm not sure what you meant. If I sent that post to you by mistake, please accept my apologies.

I thought it was you who spoke about Rick Perry using Israel as a model. I just thought that was fascinating. Had not heard that before, and wanted to let you know (or whoever posted that info) that the post was very interesting.

If that was someone else's post, please accept my apologies for mistakenly replying to one of yours.

Guess I should go back then and see who it was that did post that information, but again, sorry if I mistook that info for something you posted.

81 posted on 08/17/2011 11:10:52 PM PDT by casinva (If Rick Santorum kisses Romney while charging after Perry, I want my nice words about him back.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

The authentic Rick is standing, and will be the next president, no worries.


82 posted on 08/17/2011 11:11:53 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Windflier

Oh, come on. Not all of us are professional posters like you, Winifred! And most of us don’t have extensive and egotistical profiles. I’m sorry I didn’t check yours. I prefer to learn of people in forum versus what they say about themselves.


83 posted on 08/17/2011 11:14:28 PM PDT by DRey
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To: casinva

The point is the government had no right to mandate such a vaccine in the first place.


84 posted on 08/17/2011 11:15:11 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("President Fox's vision for an open border is a vision I embrace"- Rick Perry)
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To: casinva
See what I mean? "Perry has been an amnesty supporter from Day 1."

Oh, brother..........
BTW, I homeschooled my daughter, too, until we moved back to Texas from Florida. Have you heard what Perry did with the textbooks? For decades liberals have been writing our textbooks....anti-God, anti-Christian, amoral, etc. Perry took them on. It took years and years as governor, but he finally fired all the people who were appointing all those liberals -- it was a big stink and made national news -- but he finally got to the actual committee and LET THEM GO. He replaced them all with conservatives you promptly rewrote the textbooks. No more liberal brainwashing in Texas.

But wait, there's more! Since Texas is such a big state, with such "buying power," publishers defer to us. That means that the textbooks offered to many other states are dictated by what Texas requires. So.....Rick Perry single-handedly changed the education of children in Texas (and many other states) from the liberal garbage to just the facts. He did it. He did it alone. He didn't even campaign on it. He just took it on because it was the "right" thing to do. Without the legislature's help or support. And he was CRUCIFIED for it in the media, like everything else he ever does. There are so many reasons to love this man. He has plenty of faults, but he loves this country and our kids and is a solid Christian in everything he does. That's why they hate him.
85 posted on 08/17/2011 11:26:08 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Windflier

Sounds good..or Trump..maybe better...


86 posted on 08/17/2011 11:26:31 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: casinva

No, no. You didn’t get the posts wrong. I was just commenting on your comment. You’re obviously new to the war going on between the Perry haters and supporters. Sorry. It’s pretty ugly. I was just giving you some support.


87 posted on 08/17/2011 11:28:39 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Politicalmom

I don’t argue with you there. The fact is, they do. Our laws are such a cluster...mess, so tangled. We need to get back to the Constitution, and our medical choices should not be limited by insurance companies.


88 posted on 08/17/2011 11:30:22 PM PDT by DRey
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To: DRey

TOTALLY wrong. Gardasil is NOT a “cancer vaccine”. It supposedly prevents SOME, not all, strains of HPV, a sexually transmitted disease. If they thought this wouldeliminate cervical cancer, they’re dumber than I thought.


89 posted on 08/17/2011 11:30:34 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("President Fox's vision for an open border is a vision I embrace"- Rick Perry)
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To: DRey
You can Google Perry and Israel and see. He's very serious about our security.

Just got your last post.

Guess it was you. I just mistook your first response I guess. Guess it's getting late, and I need to get to bed! LOL

Knowing Rick Perry is "in the news" right now, I have been studying his border security measures and somewhat understand his stands and actions on border security. I am quite impressed he has listened to the recommendations of the Border Sheriff's in the use of "boots on the ground" with strategic urban fencing. I have also heard his stand on using visual technology and aircraft (drones).

I did NOT know he got some of those ideas from personally modeling Israel. I thought most of his decisions had come from his following the recommendations of law enforcement officers here.

It was because I had been studying his stands and practices on border security, and thinking a lot of it came from local law enforcement recommendations that may me sit up and shot "Wow... Interesting" when I saw your post that some was actually out of modeling Israel. That just was so surprising to me. It was a pleasant surprise. I think it was a good idea to see what Israel, one of the most dangerous places in the world, did.

Well, from putting both of your posts together, I am guessing my earlier post to you must have sounded really weird to you somehow. I'm not sure what I did, but it must have come off oddly for some reason.

I figured I had better take the time to let you know, since I now know it WAS you who posted that, why I had such a reaction. Like I mentioned, I have been trying to really study this issue, especially since it is one many either don't understand, don't like what some of the various candidates are doing, or don't have enough info or understanding on what each of the candidates really are doing.

I thought I had found quite a bit of information already!

Then I saw your post that combined the Bush dislike of Perry (which I had heard about but never knew WHY) and I also heard the Israel border safety model for Texas (which I had not discovered as yet either). Those two little things (are they little? lol) just totally surprised me out of the blue!

So maybe I'm not so sleepy after all. I did get it right that it was you.

However, if I came off somehow oddly, as I feel I must have from you telling me no one is listening to me, then please forgive me. I really was just interested in what you had just said.

90 posted on 08/17/2011 11:31:53 PM PDT by casinva (If Rick Santorum kisses Romney while charging after Perry, I want my nice words about him back.)
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To: Politicalmom
Gardisil most certainly IS a cervical-cancer vaccine. Cervical cancer is CAUSED by HPV, a sexually transmitted virus.
Oops. Did I just out someone you know?
91 posted on 08/17/2011 11:32:06 PM PDT by DRey
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To: DRey
The authentic Rick is standing

Yep, sure is, right next to his buddy the newly invented conservative AlGore from the days of yesteryear.

My guess is he's going to make Romney his VP pick and make AlGore the head of the EPA.

Getty-up rhinestone cowboy :^)

92 posted on 08/17/2011 11:35:38 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: DRey

That is not the same thing, and the vaccine companies admit it. It does NOT prevent cervical cancer, it can prevent some strains of HPV which can cause SOME cervical cancers.


93 posted on 08/17/2011 11:37:16 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("President Fox's vision for an open border is a vision I embrace"- Rick Perry)
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To: DRey
Perry now says:

“I agreed with their decision. I don’t always get it right, but I darn sure listen,” he said of the legislature responding to his decision.

“One of the things I do pride myself on, I listen. When the electorate says, ‘Hey, that’s not what we want to do,’” Perry told Houston’s ABC affiliate on Monday. “We backed up, took a look at what we did. I understand I work for the people, not the other way around.”

Had he really reacted this way this wouldn't be much of a story. However, what he did and said when the people and the Republican legislature overturned his EO is far from the picture he paints now.

In response to the legislature’s rebuke, the infuriated governor attacked those who supported repeal as “shameful” spreaders of “misinformation” who were putting “women’s lives” at risk. Borrowing a tried-and-true Alinskyite page from the progressive left, Perry surrounded himself with female cervical cancer victims and deflected criticism of his imperial tactics with emotional anecdotes.

He then lionized himself and the minority of politicians who voted against repeal of his Gardasil order. “They will never have to think twice about whether they did the right thing. No lost lives will occupy the confines of their conscience, sacrificed on the altar of political expediency.”

94 posted on 08/17/2011 11:39:01 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Politicalmom

I agree that Gardasil was not one of the best decisions Rick Perry has ever made. It sounds like his heart was in the right place, but his thinking did not do him justice on that one. His parents had died from cancer, and his wife is a nurse. He let his heart lead, and it was just not a good decision. At least once he realized the people of Texas were not going to stand for it, he honored the voters and finally (and I will say finally because he was being bull headed for a while, lol) stepped back on the issue which is by FAR better than what Obama and his thugs have done with Obamacare!


95 posted on 08/17/2011 11:39:33 PM PDT by casinva (If Rick Santorum kisses Romney while charging after Perry, I want my nice words about him back.)
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To: DRey

IF you are representative of Governor Perry you both can stay in Texas.


96 posted on 08/17/2011 11:39:36 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: DRey

Why was Perry speaking to La Raza in July 2010? Why was he at the Bilderberg Meeting in 2007? What was the legislation he signed with Acorn standing behind him?

Gov. Palin hasn’t been to any La Raza meetings, hasn’t gone to the Bilderberg meetings, and has never signed Acorn backed legislation.

The election of 2012 is the country class vs. the ruling class. We can’t beat Obama with another elitist establishment Republican.


97 posted on 08/17/2011 11:40:23 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: DRey

Don’t tell me what to worry about. I worry about lots of things of which you have no knowledge, Slick Rick among them.


98 posted on 08/17/2011 11:41:14 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (O assumes the trappings of the presidency, not its mantle.. He is not presidential.)
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To: casinva
Lol. Cas, you're amazing. I am so happy to hear that someone is actually researching Perry instead of just trashing him based on Google's primary info (what side are they on, anyway -- OH! They're liberals!). There is subtlety, and the truth is there for those who want it. Texas has a huge border. It's complicated.

Anyway, I understand completely the confusion. The posts come at odd times.

Good night!
99 posted on 08/17/2011 11:42:38 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Louis Foxwell
"No worries" means "No worries here."

I'm sorry you didn't understand that.

Good luck with your "Slick Rick" worries. Good night.
100 posted on 08/17/2011 11:44:00 PM PDT by DRey
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