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Pregnant woman mauled to death by family pit bull was in group arguing that the animals are safe
Daily Mail ^ | August 18

Posted on 08/17/2011 11:49:53 PM PDT by Borough Park

A pregnant woman who was mauled to death by one of her pet pit bull terriers belonged to group campaigning to convince people that the animals aren't dangerous, it has emerged.

Darla Napora, 32, was bitten dozens of times and found by her husband Greg covered in blood outstretched on their living room floor in Pacifica, California.

Police say the two-year-old unneutered pit bull believed to be responsible was hovering around the woman, who had major injuries to her upper body and face.

It has since emerged Napora was a member of Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls, a group that does its best to convince people that pit bulls aren't really that dangerous.

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1 posted on 08/17/2011 11:49:56 PM PDT by Borough Park
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Tragedy mixed in with irony. Here is a link to the group she was a member of: http://www.badrap.org


2 posted on 08/17/2011 11:51:06 PM PDT by Borough Park
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The deceased:


3 posted on 08/17/2011 11:54:34 PM PDT by Borough Park
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To: Borough Park

What a horrible and tragic story :-(

It reminds me of the people who think it is safe to have chimps as pets. It is NOT! Chimps are unpredictable and
extremely dangerous.... as are Pit bulls.

For years a chimp is a lovable companion animal...then one day it chews someones foot off in 30 seconds flat.


4 posted on 08/17/2011 11:56:22 PM PDT by Bobalu (He who is compassionate to the cruel will ultimately become cruel to the compassionate)
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To: Borough Park

Darwin award, posthumously.


5 posted on 08/17/2011 11:57:33 PM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: Borough Park

It’s a shame. And while I think these pets can be trained, I would never want one or trust one enough. Especially not with kids around.


6 posted on 08/18/2011 12:01:19 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Obama Debt-Laden)
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To: exnavy
Also from the article:

Mr Napora, who still believes the dogs are not dangerous, has said he will bury his wife with the dead pet.

7 posted on 08/18/2011 12:01:27 AM PDT by Borough Park
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To: Borough Park

Idiots!

The people who usually have this happen fail to understand the one thing constant about all dogs, no matter the breed.

They all want to be the alpha dog. When you fail to continually assert your dominence, tragedies will occur.

Dogs need to be clear on the concept that your the top dog and every interaction with your dog needs to continually make that point clear.


8 posted on 08/18/2011 12:02:16 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Borough Park

That’s kinda warped, unless, he wanted to get rid of the wife. Than it has a different tone.


9 posted on 08/18/2011 12:03:40 AM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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A day after the family's pit bull fatally attacked his pregnant wife, Greg Napora said Friday he doesn't blame the dog. He even plans to bury his spouse, Darla, with their pet's cremated remains in her casket.

"They are the most loving animals I have ever had in my life. Whatever happened right now was not the breed's fault," said Napora, who found his wife dead when he returned to the couple's Pacifica home from his construction job with plans to take her to lunch Thursday. "It was just a freak accident."

Source: http://www.mercurynews.com/san-mateo-county/ci_18671143

10 posted on 08/18/2011 12:05:51 AM PDT by Borough Park
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To: Borough Park
I bet the dangly ear rings set the dog off.

I know I find them very irritating.

12 posted on 08/18/2011 12:08:53 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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13 posted on 08/18/2011 12:10:44 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: Borough Park

Idiocy.


14 posted on 08/18/2011 12:12:32 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Rick_Michael

The problem is that people do not understand a dog’s need to know his place in the hierarchy. A dog does not understand the term parity. They look at an owner who doesn’t dominate as an alpha dog who might be sick or dying. A chance to become the new alpha dog.

Just watch what a dog does when you stop and get gas, for example. The first thing a dog does, when you exit the vehicle, is sit in the driver’s seat. They aren’t doing that because you kept the seat warm or that they wanted to get closer to you. They did it because you vacated your alpha position and they saw a need to fill it.

It’s funny, but true.


15 posted on 08/18/2011 12:12:57 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Borough Park

Even more ironic her ‘BADRAP’ membership renewal showed up in the mailbox today.


16 posted on 08/18/2011 12:16:14 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Jonty30

I wonder what would happen if you came back and got in the passenger seat and the dog realized it couldn’t drive ?

:)


17 posted on 08/18/2011 12:38:42 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PLMerite

The dog doesn’t realize that, in the car, his inability to drive makes him the alpha dog.

In the car, you’re Jeeves. :)


18 posted on 08/18/2011 12:55:34 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Borough Park
Mr Napora, who still believes the dogs are not dangerous, has said he will bury his wife with the dead pet....who still believes the dogs are not dangerous....

Yeah, sure, that seems reasonable. I would advise, warn all tele-marketers, salespeople not to waste time calling this guy, that he's not an easy sell, I don't think.

19 posted on 08/18/2011 12:57:42 AM PDT by lbryce (BHO:Satan's Evil Twin)
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To: Salamander

Post 15 - Do you concur?


20 posted on 08/18/2011 1:03:19 AM PDT by jla
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To: Jonty30

>>They all want to be the alpha dog.

I’d have to disagree with that. Now maybe all Pit Bulls want to be the alpha dog, and it wouldn’t surprise me one bit. But I’ve had a Labrador Retriever who was completely satisfied to be everyone and anyone’s best friend. She had zero aggression towards man or beast. I’m sure it had to do with the way she was raised, but still, it was her greatest joy to meet new people towards whom she could be nice, fulfilling her self-assigned role as Man’s best friend. It was her natural temperament to be friendly, kind and empathetic.

Not a day goes by when I don’t miss that beautiful girl terribly.


21 posted on 08/18/2011 1:15:04 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: MarineBrat

All animals have instinctual behaviours that developed in the wild. For dogs, one of those instinctual behaviours is seeking to be the top dog. Sure, that instinct can be more prominant in some breeds than another, but it’s always there. It just part of their patterns as animals.

When the alpha dog is out with the pack hunting, the dogs left behind still need to be led, so a lesser alpha will fill that role.

Unless your dog sees itself as so far down the hierarchy that its name is mud, it will have those behaviors as well. There are a lot of videos on Youtube that dog owners have put up to show what their pooch does when they are away and its always the same. Owner gone, dog sits or sleeps where owner sleeps or sits or does things it knows darn well it is not supposed to do, like root through the garbage.

It’s just part of being a dog.


22 posted on 08/18/2011 1:27:42 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Borough Park

Kinda like the idiot bear guy who got himself and his girlfriend killed by Grizzlies after defending them for years as “safe”.


23 posted on 08/18/2011 1:35:25 AM PDT by calex59
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To: PLMerite

hee hee... thanks for the chuckle this AM


24 posted on 08/18/2011 1:42:08 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Borough Park

We have a pittie and yes, he does need to know who the alpha is (and it’s not him).

All it takes is a whack with a magazine across the nose and he is in submission mode.


25 posted on 08/18/2011 1:59:25 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: jla

My dogs stay in the back seat but I don’t agree that a dog jumping into the driver’s seat is a “coup attempt”.

Most dogs get nervous when left alone in the car and it comforts them to be “surrounded” by their owner’s smell.
[oddly enough, tearing up their absent owner’s objects and strewing them about themselves is an attempt to “protect” themselves from “danger” with a “barrier” of the owner’s predator-repelling smell]

Anyway, *if* they’re sitting in “my spot” on the sofa when I come back in the room, they either vacate it immediately or zip off it when I quietly, deeply say “Move”.

In the pack hierarchy, “my spot” is the Alpha Spot and the dogs jostle amongst themselves to inhabit it when I’m gone in order to establish the “Beta” spot in the pack.

Rarely is the same dog in that spot.

It seems to be mostly whoever gets there first.

*However*, I do -not- “establish dominance” with any form of aggression, bullying, ‘acting tough’ or any of the other outdated/discredited methods.

I simply *am* and act like an Alpha wolf who can afford to arbitrarily inhabit any particular place, at any particular time just because I feel like it.

The most effective form of “dominance” is, ironically, ignoring the dog as if it were beneath your notice.

That is how wolves do it and it works incredibly well with the wolves in your living room.

As an example, physically, trying force Odin out of a place I “feel like” being is a losing proposition.

The dog knows I’m physically weaker.

If I walk to said spot and merely walk “through” him on the way to it, without a word, eye contact or even acknowledgement of his existence, he instantly vacates that area.

He understands that ‘dog body language’ and that I am the one who gets to sit, walk or stand wherever ~I~ want.

The Alpha is -always- the one who can “afford not to give a flip” about what the other dogs may think.

Very simple, actually.

Resistance begets resistance.
Stress begets stress.
Tension begets tension.
Violence begets violence.

-Anybody- who tries to bully or force their dog into “submission” has already lost the battle.
The dog *knows* that “Alpha” must feel threatened enough to resort to brute violence and will remember that.

It may submit *then* but all you’ve taught is that a warning growl or snap results in punishment...and then it learns to suppress natural warning signs and suddenly, one day, *without* warning, you may get nailed by your nervous, resentful, completely aware of reality yet [so far] physically intimidated dog.

Any dog/human relationship like *that* is worth exactly ~nothing~.

If I had to ever resort to brutal, tin-horn petty dictator behavior with my dogs, I’d know that *I* was lacking....*not* the dogs.


26 posted on 08/18/2011 2:16:54 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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“Kinda like the idiot bear guy who got himself and his girlfriend killed by Grizzlies after defending them for years as “safe”.”

In more ways than you realize; just as this idiot exposed others to the dangers of these dogs with the group, that jackass with the bears was endangering other people by getting the bears accustomed to people. Rangers at the time told him that he was causing problems, and that they were afraid they’d have to shoot some bears because of how he was removing the natural inclination of those bears to avoid people. They did have to shoot two on his account; the one that was literally eating him when they were found, and a larger one in the area that they suspected had killed them.

I have no problem with people owning pitbulls, but they have to know the potential damage they can cause. I couldn’t imagine a dog breed that would be less enjoyable to own.


27 posted on 08/18/2011 2:27:00 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: MarineBrat

I have an SPCA mutt that we got as a puppy, and no kidding, she is so passive that our CAT has the alpha dog position over her.


28 posted on 08/18/2011 2:31:54 AM PDT by Explorer89 (And now, let the wild rumpus start!!)
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To: Borough Park

There was a young lady from Niger,
Who smiled as she rode on a tiger.
After the ride
She was inside,
And the smile was on the face of the tiger.


29 posted on 08/18/2011 2:45:19 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Borough Park

Dogs have a lot of behavior hard-wired in, no training required. Anyone who has been around dogs much can tell of instances that vary by breed - retrievers retrieving, terriers doing a “kill the rat” head shake on a toy, herding dogs herding family members, those sorts of things. Why would anyone think that attack behavior by a breed known for attacking might not be hard-wired in?


30 posted on 08/18/2011 2:51:27 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Mr. K

Animals, some, retain their wild behavior even if they seem domesticated. I tried to give my African Grey a piece of peach pie yesterday, dropped it, and he tried to bite me for doing that....I mean it was an immediate response. That parrot wanted his pie and to hell with me for being so careless. And I have owned him for 25 years.


31 posted on 08/18/2011 3:03:21 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: Salamander
"If I had to ever resort to brutal, tin-horn petty dictator behavior with my dogs, I’d know that *I* was lacking....*not* the dogs."

Spot on.

The staffy we have (along with 2 heelers)knows exactly where he stands in the order of things.Especially when obama is on tv.He knows my moods and even the slightest hint of me not happy sends him into a fit of apologies.And the look,good grief what a pathetic look he gives us LOL.

He's an absolute gem,love him to bits,but wouldn't trust him alone with kids for 1 millisecond.Kids being kids.

On a more somber note,a 4 year old girl was mauled fataly by a pitbull here in Oz today.She was playing in her own backyard with a sibling and an older cousin.The dog just wandered in from next door and went straight for the little one.Terrible terrible trajedy.

32 posted on 08/18/2011 3:11:35 AM PDT by mitch5501 (My guitar wants to kill your momma!)
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To: Jonty30
In the car, you’re Jeeves. :)

Jeeves are always valets or butlers. They don't drive.

Bascombs drive.



33 posted on 08/18/2011 3:39:11 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (It's fun to play with your vision, but don't ever play with your eyes.-1970's PSA)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Very good, sir.


34 posted on 08/18/2011 3:50:58 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Borough Park

“Mr Napora, who still believes the dogs are not dangerous, has said he will bury his wife with the dead pet.”

That is just plain sick......


35 posted on 08/18/2011 3:53:39 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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Unfortunately, the noises and movements children naturally make can provoke “predator behavior” even in the “best” of dogs.
[squealing laughter, flailing limbs, erratic running, etc all mimic wounded “prey”]

I was taught very young to *not* act like that if a strange dog was nearby but most people probably wouldn’t have that high up on their childhood education list.

Where I grew up, everybody and brother always had multiple dogs of unknown temperament running loose on their property and it was a good thing to know.

Apparently the irresponsible “owner” of the pit never bothered to socialize the dog with children so that it would not over-react to them.
[or bother observing any kind of canine containment protocols, either, the worthless idiot]

Now the family of that poor child and the dog will pay the price for the owner’s “sins”.

I hope the dog’s “owner” gets nailed with manslaughter charges.

My Ibizan Hounds get excited by kids but in a giddy, run-around-crazy-goofy-happy way.

The Dobermann has been around them since he was a 6 week old pup and he reacts totally differently.

First of all, he adores kids and will make a complete ass of himself doing his “tricks” just to get them to pet him.
[and then he kisses them silly]

If he hears a child screaming or crying, he gets very upset and wants to go and “protect” them from whatever he imagines is causing them “harm”, much to shock of their parents, usually.....;D

I know what you mean about the moods.

If I’m down about something, I have to go upstairs to my bathroom and brood/cry/vent/whatever because Odin just gets too upset and his efforts to “console” me are ridiculous.

[odds are he’ll literally crush me under the weight of his immense sympathy, some day]...;]

I also have to try and hide my “feelings” about some stranger who makes me nervous because he’ll pick up on that in a millisecond.

[it rarely works...I think he’s an empath]...LOL


36 posted on 08/18/2011 3:54:53 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Borough Park

Oh boy, idiots attract. Who knew? I feel sorriest for her baby but then again, with two winners like these for parents, what chance did this poor little one have?


37 posted on 08/18/2011 4:00:15 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: Borough Park

“There is no cure for stupid.”


38 posted on 08/18/2011 4:03:32 AM PDT by majormaturity
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“Why would anyone think that attack behavior by a breed known for attacking might not be hard-wired in?”

Because at dog shows where literally hundreds of un-neutereed “Bully” breeds are exhibited at the same time in the same place, no fights ever break out and no bystanders are attacked?

Those dogs are socialized from an early age and raised by decent people who don’t make a living selling crack or training fighting dogs.

Compare/contrast.

I ~could~ turn a Golden Retriever [or any random breed] into a man killer.

It’s all in the training.

There’s quite a lucrative market for “protection dogs” disguised as friendly, harmless breeds.

Even sweet, gentle “Lassie” next door could, unbeknownst to you, be ready, willing and able to rip your face off, on command.

Don’t ever judge any book by its cover.


39 posted on 08/18/2011 4:04:41 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

My dear old Ibizan Minny always sat on the right side of the back seat of my car.

I could see her face in the rear view mirror and when “Driving Miss Daisy” came out, I LMAO.

She was so prissy, aristocratic and disapproving of my driving, that I started to refer to our trips as “Driving Miss Minny”.


40 posted on 08/18/2011 4:09:45 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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You need to realize that dogs aren’t “developed in the wild.” Dog breeds were developed by human beings who were seeking very particular traits.

Pit bulls are bred for their aggressiveness; Labrador Retrievers are not.

My last two dogs were male Rottweilers. Rottweilers are aggressive and territorial dogs by their nature and by their breeding. You don’t have to “train” a Rott to protect you or your home; you’d have a hard time training one NOT to.

My current dog is a female lab mix with another friendly dog breed. She is neither territorial nor agressive - again by breeding - and probably would not fight to protect her property or her family. She just didn’t have that bred into her.

I’ve never trusted pit bulls. I’ve known quite a few people who have had them, and one day they’re gone, and I hear some version of, “The dog was friendly, but it bit my mother,” or my kid, or the kid next door, or the mail man, or the dog next door.

I have a feeling that the woman being pregnant greatly contributed to the attack. Dogs are VERY aware of any change; and the woman probably had a change in odor as a result of being pregnant that threatened the dog. I’ve heard several times of someone getting cancer and the dog knowing even before the test - and becoming either scared or aggressive.

Of all the dogs that are TRULY “aggressive,” Pit Bulls ought to be at the top of the list. And anyone who doesn’t realize that is pretty stupid.

I love Rottweilers. But I love them for what they ARE, not because I live in denial.


41 posted on 08/18/2011 4:11:01 AM PDT by Michael Eden
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Now I *really* wonder what happened.

Mr Napora is seeming more suspicious by the second.


42 posted on 08/18/2011 4:11:37 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: calex59
Bears are always hungry. They are driven by a degree of hunger that puts human hypoglycemia to shame.

Otherwise they are smart and loving ~

Oh, they are also very big, very strong, and very hungry. They are learning to use door knobs and latches.

Did I say they are always hungry? Well, they are. Do not be fooled.

43 posted on 08/18/2011 4:16:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jonty30

“They did it because you vacated your alpha position and they saw a need to fill it.”

My black lab did it to lean on the horn if I took too long. Yes, I had witnesses to the fact.


44 posted on 08/18/2011 4:18:26 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Salamander
Hmm ~ sometimes you gotta' knock 'em up side the haid anyway.

Little ankle biter chihuahuas are actually too stupid to deal with it and pitbulls don't care.

45 posted on 08/18/2011 4:18:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Salamander

Do you think the subjects of this article made a living selling crack or training fighting dogs?


46 posted on 08/18/2011 4:21:53 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Salamander

And further, the subject of my post was the hard-wiring that comes with the dog out of the chute. You immediately changed the subject to “can a dog be trained”. Can the hard-wiring be overcome? In most cases, sure. But the fact remains that it it there to begin with, and that is what caused the story here.


47 posted on 08/18/2011 4:24:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Michael Eden

You and I are in complete agreement. Unlike another on the thread.


48 posted on 08/18/2011 4:26:52 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Borough Park

The truth is people buy these dogs for protection, the statistic bare out the fact that the pit bull is far, far more likely to kill a family member than ever save a family member from a violent crime. Fools ...


49 posted on 08/18/2011 4:35:09 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Jonty30

Miss Daisy would argue just where the alpha position is located in an automobile...


50 posted on 08/18/2011 4:37:29 AM PDT by Hatteras
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