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Pregnant woman mauled to death by family pit bull was in group arguing that the animals are safe
Daily Mail ^ | August 18

Posted on 08/17/2011 11:49:53 PM PDT by Borough Park

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To: muawiyah

Did you know that there are posters who are so incredibly dense they can’t understand context?


61 posted on 08/18/2011 5:08:48 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Bobalu

Yep and it is truly tragic. My niece has 2 pit bulls my sister insists they are ok. I’m totally not good with either dog. They live far away but, when I was visiting this last time, the male stood in front of me and wouldn’t stop barking. My sister says, hmmm, I’ve never seen him do that before. That freaked me out. I’ll never go back to that house as long as that dog is alive.


62 posted on 08/18/2011 5:08:55 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: MarineBrat

Agreed on the Labs. I had a male that needed to be rolled only once and he understood exactly where he fit in the family heirarchy. At the bottom and he is absolutely content to be there. It’s not in his nature to assert himself and he is controlled even at play.

He is the most loyal dog companion I have ever had.

Pits might just be a breed that is constantly trying to assert themselves, even in the human family hierarchy.


63 posted on 08/18/2011 5:08:58 AM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: Borough Park
Mr Napora, who still believes the dogs are not dangerous

How stupid do you have to be to be? They are unpredictable and dangerous. You might get a really good one, or then again maybe not. I sure as heck wouldn't want to take the chance. It's like playing Russian Roulette.

64 posted on 08/18/2011 5:13:04 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Salamander

We don’t need no stinking “contexts” ~


65 posted on 08/18/2011 5:20:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Salamander
The "context" is that this woman who thought dangerous dogs weren't dangerous was killed and darned near eaten by her own dog.

Her husband still says it wasn't the dogs fault (but the dog is dead anyway) so somebody around there's smart eh.

Your context is "You must be filled with white liberal guilt to properly kowtow to a dog and then he will respect you".

My mother in law's chihuahua would have gnawed you from your big toe to your knee right down to the bone just to let you know how silly that is.

Not all dogs are even "wired" right!

66 posted on 08/18/2011 5:24:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Salamander
If you want to get technical, ALL dogs are hard wired to hunt and kill.

Feral packs of dogs can include Poodles to Pit Bulls and everything imaginable, in between.

That is true of course, but nobody seems inclined to examine the varying thresholds at which different breeds engage in that behavior. If even a "gentle" dog is abandoned (say, discarded by a former owner out in a rural area), it will pack-up with other dogs to survive.

In recent years, though, there have been many stories involving Rottweilers or Pit Bulls that begin to show feral behavior immediately after escaping from their owners' back yards. Many of these incidents occur when two such dogs get loose together. With less aggressive breeds, that scenario would mostly threaten every fire hydrant and tree in the neighborhood. Unfortunately, the "bully breeds" often turn such a romp into a hunt - and they're not confined to menacing the area squirrels and cats. And they often do this despite being well-fed.

I really do think this - the proclivity towards pack behavior - is an area worthy of further study and discussion.

67 posted on 08/18/2011 5:26:44 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel
A neighbor's pitbull got loose and ran over to play with the another neighbor's cats.

They bit him. Later he was killed in traffic or something ~ the guy has replaced him with a Rotweiler.

I fully expect to see this guy eaten someday ~ he walks both of them together and he's not as strong as he imagines.

68 posted on 08/18/2011 6:00:55 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I mean this in the nicest possible way so don’t it take personally but....are you okay?

Your post was even more loony than usual.


69 posted on 08/18/2011 6:07:47 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Charles Martel

“I really do think this - the proclivity towards pack behavior - is an area worthy of further study and discussion.”

Yes it is but the conclusion is fairly simple.

Dogs are pack animals and dogs running together will often display *radically* different behavior when in said pack.

I’ve read of owners who turn the dogs out at night, much like some people do with their cats and then find out later that little Fifi and Buddy have gone on livestock killing sprees.

In the morning, their sweet little furry ball of gentle joy returns home and slips easily right back into harmless couch potato mode.

One of the cable egghead channels [can’t recall which] ran a show called “Life After Humans” in which, of course, for no apparent reason, we all vanish overnight and “nature” remains.
[ie, critters]

Most unfortunate and shortest lived are the dogs trapped in houses.
Then they go on to show how various breeds would fare without human intervention.

Packs of dogs form almost immediately.

Being least able to successfully hunt, the “frou frou” breeds go first, along with everything brachycephalic.

The working/hunting/sporting/hound/terrier breeds all do quite well.

The show jumps by decades and shows the inevitable evolution of “pure breeds” all intermingling; a Dingo-like dog quite adept at surviving without us.

[canine geneticists have long claimed that a “Dingo” like dog would definitely be the result of ‘artificially created’ breeds all reverting genetically back to the base canid form]

It was a fascinating show.

Cats, rats and pigeons did very well, too, naturally.

My dad had weird experience right up on the mountain behind me.

Something was killing all his hybrid rabbits and he took me up to look at the tracks, thinking it was coyotes who were killing but not eating.
[not very likely]

One look at the print told me was a dog..and large one, probably a Lab mix.
The other smaller prints had me baffled.
Dog, yes, but tiny.

So dad staked out the cabin yard and waited.

Around dusk, a large black dog came up through the field followed but what looked like only moving grass.

The small dog looked to be some kind of small beagle mutt.

He fired buckshot over their heads as they went after his rabbits and they hauled arse home, never to return again.

Turned out to be some guy’s dogs from about a half mile down the pike.

The big dog was a Lab/collie mix and the small dog was Beagle/? mix.

Very sweet gentle dogs....who turned into blood thirsty killers every night.

“Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night, may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.”

...or in some cases, a dog.


70 posted on 08/18/2011 6:30:52 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: caver

Quote:
“Mr Napora, who still believes the dogs are not dangerous, has said he will bury his wife with the dead pet.”

>> Quote:
>> That is just plain sick......

I agree. that is morbid.


71 posted on 08/18/2011 8:28:50 AM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: Salamander
You should read the rest of this thread.

BTW, the nonsense coming from the "just show you're the alpha" crowd is the true loonybin stuff.

72 posted on 08/18/2011 10:39:36 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Molon Labbie

>>He is the most loyal dog companion I have ever had.

That brought tears to my eyes, and I know the feeling so well. My Labbie was literally the “World’s Friendliest Dog.” Now of course I must concede that there may have been other dogs who were tied for first. :)

And while she was friendly, she didn’t run up and jump on people. She was very empathetic towards people’s needs, would stand there wagging bodily, awaiting the invite. As she got older, and she experienced a few aches and pains of her own, she also learned to recognize human frailties, and acted accordingly. She would rough house when appropriate and invited, and would put her chin on your knee if that’s what was the right thing to do.

There’s nothing in God’s Earth quite like an old friend of the family dog who has been well treated all its life.


73 posted on 08/18/2011 11:02:56 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: muawiyah

You should certainly know “loony bin” when you see it.

Pity you don’t know proper dog/human interaction protocol, as well.

Now, kindly go find somebody else’s leg to hump.

The time you’ve been devoted to mine is growing tedious....and slightly disturbing


74 posted on 08/18/2011 11:03:33 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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