Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Perry Says Vaccine Order Was Mistake
WSJ ^ | 081811 | ALICIA MUNDY

Posted on 08/18/2011 12:47:22 AM PDT by Fred

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100 last
To: Nextrush; Scotswife
A mistake?.....now he admits it's a mistake....

I think Freeper Scotswife has some leverage with this!

Her daughter took 2 of the shots and had a bad reaction.

Perry needs to deal with his mistakes.

51 posted on 08/18/2011 4:41:35 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Fred

With his stand on this issue it is clear he is a New World Order facist. Thinks he knows better then we do and now we learn the drug is worse the the bite.

He supports open US borders with Mexico, he is a joke.


52 posted on 08/18/2011 4:42:08 AM PDT by stockpirate (Is Perry an establishment Republican, New World Order Socialist, NWOS...let's verify)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: st.eqed

I agree with you on Perry. All I can say is every candidate is flawed. There is no perfect candidate. Right now, Rick Perry has the best chance of beating Romney for the nomination.

Get real folks, do you really think Perry would take on this issue in Texas for a mere $6000.00?

Some of you are dreaming if you think the perfect candidate is out there that will never make a mistake and will do every single thing the way you think it should be.


53 posted on 08/18/2011 4:50:03 AM PDT by tirednvirginia ( You)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Polybius
Then, when we end up with either President Romney or President Obama 2.0, we will be able to thank the Conservatively Holier Than Thou crowd

Why so glum an outlook, Poly? How about, "then when we end up with a President Palin, we will be able to thank the Conservatives Who Vote for the Candidate Who Best Represents Our Values crowd."

Just think, Poly. With Palin in the White House you'll get four more years of spam posting about that money-grubbing Palin family and their book signings.

54 posted on 08/18/2011 5:05:55 AM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: tirednvirginia

I though we were going to FINALLY get a real conservative to run. We have Bachmann who is the most conservative of all. That is who we should be supporting fully at least until Sarah runs. Perry is not the strongest conservative by far in the primaries. We are acting like he is the nominee already. He is not and we don’t have to support him in the primaries and people don’t need to be called nasty names for not supporting him during the primaries......Now the general is different. Primaries are a time to really use your principles.


55 posted on 08/18/2011 5:09:42 AM PDT by napscoordinator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: napscoordinator
We are acting like he is the nominee already. He is not and we don’t have to support him in the primaries and people don’t need to be called nasty names for not supporting him during the primaries......Now the general is different. Primaries are a time to really use your principles.

Exactly. Very well stated.

56 posted on 08/18/2011 5:16:00 AM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: Fred; cripplecreek; calcowgirl; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; BobL; South40

Gardasil mandate. Just another honest mistake, like the Texas DREAM Act, TTC, the Texas Emerging Technology Fund and the Texas Enterprise Fund. Those are just honest mistakes too, but he’s all better now. He got religion and wrote a book about it last year.


57 posted on 08/18/2011 5:20:44 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Free Republic- Still AAA++ rated)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Guenevere

you know how it is....the stats will most likely show that her reaction is just a tiny blip as compared to the great number that didn’t have a reaction.

When it’s your own kid you don’t look at it as a statistical anamoly.

At the time Perry did this, Merck was pretending they didn’t know about this reaction.

My beef is with Merck.


58 posted on 08/18/2011 5:24:52 AM PDT by Scotswife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: barkeep; Fred
Did you like the Kelo decision? You would have loved the Trans-Texas Corridor. Texas Conservatives fought this rascal through two terms of Legislature, would have been the largest eminent domain land grab in American history. Perry fought FOR that tooth and nail.

This issue is the one that amazes me most. More specifically, it's the lack of attention to it that's so surprising. Most of the criticisms of Perry are focused on the Gardisil/Dream Act/Guliani/etc. issues, but in my opinion the Trans Texas Corridor far overshadows those as an ominous "tell" of bad things to come, and as a clear "flashing light-siren" warning that Perry, for all his genuine good qualities (just like Bush), is still ultimately a wholly-owned asset of the globalist establishment, the "Ruling Class" as Angelo Codevilla termed it in his brilliant article and analysis this past year.

Once again, we the people are being played, and outplayed, by the ruling elites and their omnipresent media propaganda manipulation machine. And worst of all, most of us seem to love it... /g

59 posted on 08/18/2011 5:29:53 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Fred

Ping for later


60 posted on 08/18/2011 5:36:01 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TADSLOS; Fred; cripplecreek; calcowgirl; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; BobL; South40; rintense; ...
Gardasil mandate.....just another honest mistake, like the Texas DREAM Act, TTC, the Texas Emerging Technology Fund and the Texas Enterprise Fund, being palsy-walsy w/ Muslims.....all honest mistakes.......

Heh....I hear "Honesty is The Best Policy" is embroidered on all of Perry's underwear. LOL.

Voters are beginning to see a candidate w/ many frayed edges. Admittedly, he looks good, at first.....poised, handsome, glib, in command, personable, nice hair.

Then the questions surface.

I just don't think Perry's swaggering, Big D attitude plays well outside cattle country.

61 posted on 08/18/2011 5:47:28 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: Fred
Having control of the House and Senate is going to be the best victory for 2012.

The President makes SCOTUS nominations. Bush gave us a couple of great ones. Obama has given us a couple of horrible ones. A few justices are getting up in years and Ginsburg has health issues.

62 posted on 08/18/2011 6:04:58 AM PDT by randita (Obama - chains you can bereave in.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Liz
*** Heh....I hear "Honesty is The Best Policy" is embroidered on all of Perry's underwear. LOL. ***

Yeah, Perry's got some "splainin' to do". This 'Gardasil mandate' is backtrack #1.

But he's still got The DREAM Act, Open Borders (i.e.: AZ Illegal Law Wrong) and .. his endorsement of Fruity ROOTY hanging over his head. And how he will be able to spin those will require magical powers.

ILLEGALS, sanctuary cities and DREAM Acts have affected me personally, so I'm ticked to start off with right there. But ROOTY?!? That scares the hell out of me.

How any Texan, let alone the Governor, could embrace a gun grabbing, anti freedom, abortion loving, DRAFT DODGING, Northeastern LIBERAL, is just stupefying.

(and if I hear he was 'America's mayor' I'll go BERSERK. That power hungry fascist never was "my mayor" - period!)

63 posted on 08/18/2011 6:15:34 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: Condor51; TADSLOS
Perry endorsing Rooty scares the hell out of me. How any Texan, let alone
the Governor, could embrace a gun grabbing, anti freedom, abortion
loving, DRAFT DODGING, Northeastern LIBERAL, is just stupefying.

"He's not my style---but he promised me a cut of his global business, if I play along."

===============================================

REFERENCES Governor Perry cleared the way for construction to begin in Texas when he vetoed several bills passed by the Legislature that would have stalled the project. The texas Legislature voted a two-year moratorium, and voted a redefinition of eminent domain -- Perry vetoed them. [On] at least one of those measures, he waited until the Texas Legislature was out of session so it couldn't even override his veto. The Federal Highway Administration's lawyer wrote letters threatening the Texas Legislature to cut off federal highway funds if they got in the way of this Trans-Texas Corridor.

NOTE WELL Perry used the power of eminent domain to take property from Texans to give to Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, SA, a Spanish transportation company, in its successful bid to develop State Highway 121 into a toll road through Collin and Denton counties ("trade road" is four football fields wide)----approved by the Texas Transportation Commission, is the first privatization of a Texas toll road.

Bracewell & Giuliani LLP (Rudy Giuliani's Texas-based law firm with global connections) is acting as project counsel to Cintra with respect to the 50-year concession from the Texas Department of Transportation.

64 posted on 08/18/2011 6:28:17 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: Liz

What makes the Gardasil issue even worse is that he took a big campaign contribution from the producers of Gardasil.

My niece has a friend whose daughter was severely damaged by Gardasil.

Gardasil was not sufficiently researched enough to try and make it a mandate. The opt out clause was ridiculous.


65 posted on 08/18/2011 6:39:10 AM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: indylindy

Thanks for the realtime report.


66 posted on 08/18/2011 6:45:31 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Liz

As a born and raised Texan (and cattle raiser), I can tell you it doesn’t play all that well IN cattle country, either.


67 posted on 08/18/2011 6:46:41 AM PDT by ixtl (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: indylindy

Big campaign contribution? $6000 ??


68 posted on 08/18/2011 6:47:37 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: ixtl
As a born and raised Texan (and cattle raiser), I can tell you Perry's swaggering, Big D attitude doesn’t play all that well IN cattle country, either.

Heh---love it. Straight from the horse's mouth......as they'd say in Texas.

69 posted on 08/18/2011 6:51:20 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: magritte

I guess it isn’t that big, but the point is that it really doesn’t, and won’t, play well with the people.

I know Obama does this kind of thing daily and on a far grander scale, but we don’t like it when he does it.


70 posted on 08/18/2011 6:53:54 AM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 68 | View Replies]

To: Nextrush; All
Unsafe? It's been 5 years (2006) since the vaccine Gardasil was approved for women (ages 9+).

Unsafe? It's since been approved for males (2009) against HPV-caused cancers in them too.

$6,000 is pennies for his gubernatorial campaign war chest of $100 million.

Perry protected parental rights by ensuring they could opt-out their children.

71 posted on 08/18/2011 7:42:38 AM PDT by newzjunkey (12yo's consent law, AB499 (Atkins), passed the CA Asm 50-25, Sen vote next.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: indylindy

Unfortunately, based on a contribution list, you can pretty well make any politician look like he’s on the take for one thing or another. The Gardisel thing is much more complicated than Perry took money from Merck or a Perry guy used to work for Merck. Like all state politics, there are competing and conflicting interests, make the final decisions much less black and white than are often portrayed.


72 posted on 08/18/2011 7:52:34 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Scotswife
It's your daughter and you want to protect her..... and Merck should have known about side effects-(& I'm sure they did!)...

..but it took Rick Perry to push this....whether your beef is with him or not.

73 posted on 08/18/2011 7:56:40 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: South40

That’s not a reliable site for medical information. The FDA&CDC have confirmed that there have been no deaths attributed to the vaccine.


74 posted on 08/18/2011 7:58:56 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Fred
A politician who admits he made a mistake and apologies for it! That doesn't happen very often, if ever! That is a great breath of fresh air! WOW!
75 posted on 08/18/2011 8:03:48 AM PDT by Ditter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: magritte

True, but we need to win this time. I hate for things like this to derail our chances.

Politics is dirty business. We don’t have the media on our side.

My husband was trying to get me to see the reality that whether we like it or not, most people watch the MSM and pay attention to little other than clips or campaign ads prior to elections. There is no getting away from it.

I get my news here and mostly over the internet.

Hopefully this time the misery index will make people ignore the attacks and vote to save their skin.


76 posted on 08/18/2011 8:06:10 AM PDT by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: Liz; Scotswife
Many times a vaccine starts out as...optional..but quickly becomes mandatory....you can count on it!

Years ago HepB was being pushed by my children's pediatrician....and I wanted no part of it....

...Before.... HepB was administered if someone was going to some 3rd world country....

..but they were pushing it for potentially sexually active kids!----my kids were not sexually active and were not planning on being sexually active until marriage!---This push had nothing to do with my kids.....it was percentages & lifestyle --the new paradigm they were pushing!!!

I found it insulting to parents who didn't fit within their predetermined vision of 'every child needs this!'.

I was told it was 'optional'....but they sure did push it.....soon after it became mandatory!

Today HepB is mandatory if you want to get your newborn out of the hospital!!----and beleive me findng a pediatrician to take this child is almost impossible if you don't have ALL the shots the hospital requires!!

That's why I reacted viscerally to Rick Perry's mandatory vaccine!

77 posted on 08/18/2011 8:23:15 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: Fred

Well goodness gracious, a politician who listens to voters and changes his or her mind. Much unlike the “We have to pass the bill to see what’s in it” that rammed obummercare down our throats when san fran pig lousy ran the house.


78 posted on 08/18/2011 8:50:56 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, please let it rain in Texas. Amen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Guenevere
Why I reacted viscerally to Rick Perry's mandatory vaccine.......has nothing to do with kids.....it's lifestyle, pushing the new paradigm ..... insulting to parents who didn't fit within their predetermined vision .....vaccine starts out as optional..but quickly becomes mandatory, dictated by a "we know what's good for you" government.....

Lifestyle---that's the key word. Fits right into Obama's socialist "Safe School" programs for kids----starts off with inculcating our youth with the gay lifestyle and proceeds to other travesties.

79 posted on 08/18/2011 9:36:00 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: All
Let's give the guy a break.....he accomplished every goal he set for himself in college (/snix).

Perry's college goals:

No. 1...to graduate.

No. 2... to be Yell Leader (cheerleader).

No. 3....to be in the Ross Volunteers---Texas A&M Corps of Cadets.

80 posted on 08/18/2011 9:56:19 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: Guenevere

“In 2003, Gov. Rick Perry signed a state law that allows parents to opt out of vaccination programs for reasons of “conscience,” including religion or any other rationale. The law is a response to a number of vocal parents who have become convinced that vaccines are responsible for the dramatic rise in autism cases over the past decade—despite the fact that several large, peer-reviewed studies have found no evidence that this is the case. According to data from the Texas Department of State Health Services, in 2003, parents of 2,314 children applied for an exemption. By the end of 2009, the total had reached beyond 12,600.”

http://www.texasobserver.org/culture/lessons-unlearned

Two of my grandsons have NEVER had one immunization here in Texas. Their parents have opted them out of all of the “mandatory” vaccinations. Immunizations are also not required in the school district here - the choice is totally up to the parents.

The opt out clause is NOT ridiculous, as someone else described.


81 posted on 08/18/2011 10:14:04 AM PDT by Texas Deb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: hocndoc
Not a reliable site because you, a Rick Perry apologist said so? lol!

You also think Perry is conservative so your credibility is nil.

I didn't post the link in an attempt to prove the drug had caused deaths. I posted it because it spells out how unproven the drug is. But you already knew that.

Thanks for the laughs.

82 posted on 08/18/2011 4:01:02 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: Liz
A 'yell leader'? lol!

That belongs in that thread wherein the Perry apologists were going on and on about how macho he is. :-P

83 posted on 08/18/2011 4:06:59 PM PDT by South40 (Primaries are about choosing a conservative candidate, not settling on a Rove RINO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: South40
Yup, the types of pics presidential candidates wish they could destroy. In fact,
Perry's staff is taking down all those embarrassing pics of him giving away the
store to ACORN. Some have survived.

Here's the Guv signing a pro-ACORN bill into law:


News reports depicted Perry as an "advocate for affordable housing," and "lending law reform" (read sub-prime defaults).

Everyone knows how "good" ACORN is at voter fraud.
Will his ACORN pals get WH jobs if Perry is elected?

84 posted on 08/18/2011 4:34:24 PM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: Liz
The Dream Act
-campaign manager for Al Gore,
-endorsed pro-abortion Rudy Giuliani,
-opposed the border fence,
-opposed Arizona's SB 1070,
-vocally opposed Obama’s stimulus plan but took billions in stimulus money to balance the Texas budget,
-did an end around the Texas legislature to try and force an unproven drug into the veins of teenage girls,
-was 'fine' with NY’s gay marriage law,
-gave millions of taxpayer dollars to his business cronies
-AND support for ACORN?!

Rick Perry is to conservatism what Susan Smith was to motherhood.

85 posted on 08/18/2011 4:47:56 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry is to conservatism what Susan Smith is to motherhood)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: South40
Rick Perry is to conservatism what Susan Smith was to motherhood.

LOL---good one.

86 posted on 08/18/2011 4:52:11 PM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 85 | View Replies]

To: fieldmarshaldj
And there I was thinking we were friends agreeing to disagree. Shame on me!

Come on, dj. You're mature enough to have heard of "revisionist history." Do you really think that that is going to be an arrow in the heart of a conservative republican history teacher's heart? Try again! I'm the #1 defender, and possibly the only one left in the public-university system. Poo-poo my efforts if you like. You'd love my classes. The liberals HATE me -- thing I should "tone it down."

And frankly, I have more respect for you, personally, than to accept that kind of garbage...shooting from the hip without thinking. Try again. (And pardon me if I don't respond over the next 4-5 days. I'll be unavailable but will get back with you as soon as I can.)

Perry 2012!
87 posted on 08/18/2011 11:02:33 PM PDT by DRey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Fred
Figure it out, Fred. You're obviously missing most of the pieces of the puzzle.
88 posted on 08/18/2011 11:04:10 PM PDT by DRey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: South40

Tired of supporting RINOs? ME TOO! That’s why I’m supporting Perry.


89 posted on 08/18/2011 11:09:08 PM PDT by DRey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: South40
Desperate? No. I'm eccstatic! "Perry 2012!"

I'm just sorry a select few on FR -- my old faithful website for elections -- can't see the light of day, that's all.
90 posted on 08/18/2011 11:12:03 PM PDT by DRey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: DRey
"Come on, dj. You're mature enough to have heard of "revisionist history."

That's fur sure ! Every time a Perryhead posts, we all get treated to it.

"Do you really think that that is going to be an arrow in the heart of a conservative republican history teacher's heart? Try again! I'm the #1 defender, and possibly the only one left in the public-university system. Poo-poo my efforts if you like. You'd love my classes. The liberals HATE me -- thing I should "tone it down."

I wouldn't love it if you were saying there some of the stuff you and your comrades have been saying here... like the Texas Democrats of the '80s were the Conservative party. That not only doesn't pass the smell test, but that causes some of us political historians to bust a gut with derisive laughter. Now if you were talking about the 1880s maybe. But I don't think Slick Rick was serving during the Sul Ross administration. I'm sure, however, by next week he'll be mentioning he did.

"And frankly, I have more respect for you, personally, than to accept that kind of garbage...shooting from the hip without thinking. Try again. (And pardon me if I don't respond over the next 4-5 days. I'll be unavailable but will get back with you as soon as I can.)"

Hey, now, I shoot from the lip and I don't need to aim, since it always finds its target. ;-D

91 posted on 08/18/2011 11:34:43 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: DRey

Liberals would be ‘ecstatic’ over Perry. It’s nothing to brag about, though.


92 posted on 08/18/2011 11:36:04 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry is to conservatism what Susan Smith is to motherhood)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: DRey

That’s almost deserving of a double-facepalm.


93 posted on 08/18/2011 11:36:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: fieldmarshaldj
All right. I get it, dj. I thought from your previous posts you were.....something else. Thanks for the entertainment.

Bye!
94 posted on 08/18/2011 11:37:46 PM PDT by DRey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 91 | View Replies]

To: South40
"Rick Perry is to conservatism what Susan Smith is to motherhood"

Wow. That's gonna leave a mark. =8-0>

95 posted on 08/18/2011 11:39:05 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: DRey

*sigh*


96 posted on 08/18/2011 11:40:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: South40
"Liberals would be ecstatic about Perry?"

Goodbye!
97 posted on 08/18/2011 11:41:56 PM PDT by DRey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: fieldmarshaldj

Good night.


98 posted on 08/18/2011 11:42:41 PM PDT by DRey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: South40

No, it’s not a reliable site for medical information because it doesn’t claim to be scientific or even medically based or peer-reviewed. Steve Ertelt has done good work in his pro-life advocacy, but does make mistakes.

Gardasil has been studied well over 10 years, with long term efficacy reported for both low grade and high grade cervical changes, as well as for the visible warts and cancer.


99 posted on 08/19/2011 1:17:51 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: Liz; Guenevere; South40; napscoordinator; barkeep; Scythian; Fred; Nextrush; indylindy

I wonder why any woman who objects to Gardasil because it is a “lifestyle choice” would ever get pap smears and advise their daughters the same. Should men be offended if their wives and daughters have pap smears.

Because while we do find yeast infections or other (besides HPV) STD’s at pap smears, these findings are just incidental and there are more specific tests for the other diseases.

The only thing we are looking for with the Pap smear and the new liquid test is cell nuclear changes due to HPV. In the US, it’s almost always types 16 or 18.

The side effects are equal to or less than placebo. There have been no deaths. All of the serious events have occurred in similar numbers/rates as in the population that is not vaccinated.

The British Journal of Cancer journal had published a 5 year follow up article, online in November, 2006. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2360730/?tool=pubmed#__abstractid441395 The Gardasil package insert had information on the studies in children, and still does http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/g/gardasil/gardasil_pi.pdf (I have a copy of the original one, if anyone wants it), following 1122 girls 9-15 receiving the vaccine.

Over the last 4 years,


100 posted on 08/19/2011 1:36:37 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson