Skip to comments.Perry calls global warming an unproven, costly theory -'manipulated data' to win research dollars
Posted on 08/18/2011 2:58:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Perry expressed his skepticism about global warming .
Jim Rubens, a Republican ..who works as a consultant for the Union of Concerned Scientists. Rubens prefaced his question by reading statements from Perry's book "Fed Up!" that global warming is "a contrived phony mess that is falling apart under its own weight."
Rubens, an investor who works in the clean-energy sector, asked Perry how he reconciled those views and his assertion that the Earth is "experiencing a cooling trend" with findings that fossil fuel combustion is the primary cause of global warming and...Earth surface temperatures have risen above the 20th century average every month since the mid-1980s.
If both "observed scientific data" and the National Academy of Sciences are wrong on the issue, .doesn't that call into question the entire science discovery process that is the basis for America's status as an advanced technological society?"
"You may have a point there," Perry quipped, adding that he believed the issue had become politicized. Without citing any specific examples, the Texas governor charged that "there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects."
His opinions put him at odds with the vast majority of experts. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, made up of more than 2,500 scientists, found with 90% confidence that recent warming was caused by humans. Its conclusion is supported by years of accumulated scientific data. The U.N. has warned that there is so much carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere that even if concentrations held at current levels, the effects of global warming would continue for centuries.
Rubens said later in an interview...Perry was promulgating inaccurate information that could damage the reputation of the National Academy of Sciences
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Perry is right.
Rubens is wrong.
Perry has the facts.
Rubens has opinion.
The Union of Concerned Scientists is a Leftist group.
I'll note (since this is an LA Times article) California (which is going bankrupt) has dumped multi-millions of taxpayer dollars into this fraud and are asking for more to cover the research and pay huge salaries for the scientists.
..........>>>>Climate skeptics love Perry, and this kind of rhetoric is why. While Mitt Romney is out and about on the campaign trail agreeing with the overwhelming scientific status quo on the topic, Perry appears poised to take up a view of climate change on the presidential campaign trail that would be right at home in a Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) floor speech.<<<.......
Thanks Cincinatus’ Wife, I think this is a reprised topic, but worth seeing again regardless.
"Virtually every day another scientist leaves the global warming bandwagon. ... But you won't read about that in the press because they have already invested in one side of the story."<<<<.......
CALIFORNIA: ..Texas Gov. Rick Perry has become a folk hero for people like Stewart as he's marketed his state as a low-cost and business-friendly alternative to California, which is fertile job-hunting ground for Perry.
Texas has added 929,000 jobs since 2001, while California has lost approximately 635,000 manufacturing jobs in that same time, Stewart said.
Answering questions after his speech, Stewart told the story of Perry sending programmed cellphones to CEOs in California with a simple message: "If you're interested in growing your business, please call me. I'm here to help."
"They're doing something right down there," Stewart said of what he dubs the "Texas miracle." "Gov. Perry will go anywhere, any time, to try to recruit companies into Texas."
Perry has taken the state's regulatory process and managed it himself, Stewart said
[CA Economic Development Corporation President Mark] Lascelles emphasized that it does no good to belabor California's regulatory environment.
"Unfortunately, we can't avoid it. We have to deal with it," he said. Speaker focuses on job creation
MONTANA: Legal gamesmanship threatens our energy future Texas Gov. Rick Perry is able to boast about job growth under his watch, noting that over 265,000 jobs, or nearly 37 percent of the jobs created nationwide since the summer of 2009, have been created in the Lone Star state.
He credits this growth to a few simple conditions: low taxes, a regulatory climate that is fair and predictable, and a legal system that limits frivolous lawsuits. According to the Wall Street Journal, nearly one-fourth of the 70 companies that left California this year relocated to Texas.
When new or relocating companies and investors survey the landscape and consider Montana, what do they see? Well, when it comes to natural-resource development, the landscape looks risky.
Recent headlines highlight two major resource development projects slogging through endless legal and regulatory challenges. Investment flees this kind of uncertainty, so Montanans interested in the future economic stability of this state should be wary of the signals we send --- [relates short history of 2 outrageous examples] --
The common experience for Tongue River Railroad and Tonbridge Power is this: Even if you play by the rules, even if you follow the letter of the law, even if you engage with the public during a planning process, even if you get formal approval from the regulatory authorities, you are certain to face organized opposition whose sole intent is to frustrate project development to the point of financial starvation .
Perry environmental stance would transform EPA ....>>>>>Perry "approaches the issues from a very libertarian bent," said Jim DiPeso , policy director of Republicans for Environmental Protection. "The EPA would be in for some significant budget reduction. There would be no new intiatives, no regulatory programs that would be initated. There'd be litigation from environmental groups that believe he's not enforcing the Clean Air Act and Water Act as robustly as the law provides."
"Any regulatory programs would be really throttled back," he said. "He has shown no interest in climate policy at all. He doesn't accept the science."
With the governor's blessing, Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott is challenging at least six EPA greenhouse gas-related regulations. The state's underlying argument: The fundamental finding that greenhouse gases are a public health threat is scientifically flawed.
The federal government is pushing "hastily enacted, cascading regulations" on states and businesses, Abbott argued in a June brief filed on behalf of nine states in federal court.
Perry's approach to energy, DiPeso said, "would be to produce more," rather than discourage the development of energy projects, such as coal plants, that emit greenhouse gases associated with global warming.
"In terms of energy, (Perry) would pursue what many Republicans call the 'all of the above' strategy, with more energy development offshore and onshore," DiPeso said. <<<<<
It’s nice to see people in visible positions question global warming; it has replaced true religion for many young people, and can’t hurt to have it exposed publicly.
Preached to them by Sixties anti-war "educators" who filled the vacuum left when communism "died."
Rubens has put forth a number of unsupported assertions as fact. Rubens has to set aside all results by "scientists" who have been funded to prove warming is caused by man. Set the results aside until they can be affirmed by truly objective scientists.
Rubens claim that Earth surface temperatures have risen every month is highly questionable. What are his assumptions, data, and methodology to support that claim? Are the sources of "data" biased?
Perry is correct that global warming caused by man is unproven and baseless.
22 years ago when Al Gore was talking about the ozone hole over the south pole, no one knew where this was going, including YOU.
No one supports people on all their positions and AGW wasn't even on most people's radar. Also Gore was a different person back then.
Rick Perry worked on Al Gore's Texas bid for votes in the 1988 Democratic Party Primary that Michael Dukakus won. In 1989 Perry followed Phil Gramm and other conservative Texas Democrats to the GOP side.
......."During his time in Congress, [Al] Gore opposed federal funding of abortion, voting in favor of a bill which supported a moment in silence in schools, and voting against a ban on interstate sales of guns. His position shifted later in life after he became Vice President and ran for president in 2000 Source
Gore his wife led the charge on putting warning labels on records back in the 1980s. In fact, Gore had an 84% pro-life record back in the 1980s: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Al_Gore According to ontheissues.org -- Gore had an 84% anti-abortion voting record and voted pro-life 27 times. Evolving Gore
LOL! That is garbage and you know it, that was long before Gore went on his global warming binge. You have no evidence whatsoever that Perry ever believed in the theory of AGW, so your statement is just plain false. Gee what a surprise.
PENN STATE’s Michael Mann
East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit.....
Plus dozens of other ‘climate scientists’ caught omitting, manipulating and falsifying temperature data in the infamous EA CRU email spill debacle.
Yep, I’d say Rick Perry was right on target - catching a lot of flak for being on final approach and “bombs away!”
NEVER LET THESE PEOPLE FORGET THIS EMAIL CONSPIRACY! NEVER!
He’s right on this issue. I have very strong reservations on this candidate otherwise, however, I am resigned to the cold hard fact that if he does get the nod, he would get my vote.
LOL, this writer disagrees, http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61428.html
My favorite weatherman agrees:
@BigJoeBastardi Joe Bastardi
Rick Perry vs. the Global Warming Fraud - HUMAN EVENTS humanevents.com/article.php?id via @humanevents Gig em Aggie!
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LOL. If you had a legitimate argument you would post references to support it but since you do not have those references one can only conclude that you are making it up. Gee what a surprise.
Perry's statements about ethanol was wonderful was made when he was agriculture commissioner, what ever that is.
What does that have to do with supporting AGW? One can support alternative fuels for conservation of natural resources, without buying into the AGW garbage.
Your posts never make any sense at all. Gee what a surprise.
Hard to imagine that here on FR, we are reduced to resurrecting and rehabilitating Al Gore Jr to pimp a GOP candidate.
Gore Sr & Jr were both bought and paid for by Armand Hammer with Jr’s entire political career from it’s inception dependent upon that largess.
LOL! I had not heard that before. And Paul Krugman says Perry had nothing to do with job growth in Texas!
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