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California: Legislature Approves Renter Smoking Ban
FoxLa ^ | 08/15/11

Posted on 08/18/2011 5:52:39 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Legislature Approves Renter Smoking Ban

Updated: Monday, 15 Aug 2011, 7:12 PM PDT

Published : Monday, 15 Aug 2011, 7:12 PM PDT

Sacramento - Landlords will be able to ban smoking on their properties, including inside rental units, if Gov. Jerry Brown signs a bill sent to him by the state Senate.

Democratic Sen. Alex Padilla of Los Angeles says his bill is designed to give families more smoke-free options. He says 86 percent of Californians don't smoke, yet smoke-free multifamily housing remains comparatively rare.

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxla.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: nannystate; propertyrights; pufflist; rental; rentalproperty; rentalunit; renting; smoking
That's OK. They can switch to smoking pot.:-)
1 posted on 08/18/2011 5:52:48 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why do we need a law for this? This sounds like a policy for owners...

Does this also mean all the government housing?


2 posted on 08/18/2011 5:56:23 AM PDT by edcoil (The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital. -- Joe Paterno)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
How about that? We, right now, have a heavy smoker living in our White House in D.C. Maybe we should pass a law too . . . but, we already have "no smoking" in public buildings . . . so why is the Illegal-Alien-In-Chief" smoking in our White House? Would we be allowed to smoke during a tour of the White House?

Looks like we gotta' get a California law in D.C.

3 posted on 08/18/2011 5:56:23 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: TigerLikesRooster

When the Gubmint confiscates all the insurance carriers (i.e. Health, Dental, Auto, mortgage and Property) home ‘owners’ will be prohibited from smoking in single family houses.

First, those diabolical Home Owners’ Associations will do a test run.


4 posted on 08/18/2011 5:56:57 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

LOL

I can see their point. The smell lingers and seeps into everything. I never really noticed it before. I think if you’ve been raised around it you don’t notice it, but if you haven’t been raised around it it really does stink.


5 posted on 08/18/2011 5:58:07 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: edcoil

The law probably protects them some how from being sued. ?


6 posted on 08/18/2011 5:59:50 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Pretty soon they’ll be goose stepping down the streets on May Day! Or do they do that already in LA?


7 posted on 08/18/2011 6:06:28 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint /Palin, DeMint/Bachmann, DeMint/Cain, DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Already done in dorms.


8 posted on 08/18/2011 6:07:45 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: edcoil

You’ve got that right. Most landlords in CA enforce a no smoking policy if they so desire it. They ask you before you move in if you smoke and make it part of the Rental agreement/lease that you can’t smoke inside the building. No law is necessary. Just one more useless regulation designed to control the people.


9 posted on 08/18/2011 6:09:21 AM PDT by calex59
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To: TigerLikesRooster

LOL! The first tenant who gets busted under this who turns out to be smoking medicinal pot is gonna tie up the entire California court system for the next nineteen years.


10 posted on 08/18/2011 6:10:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why do they keep passing such laws? Wouldn’t it be more logical to go all the way and ban the sale and possession of tobacco?


11 posted on 08/18/2011 6:11:48 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’d like to think this is a blow for property rights, but its not. Its just more anti-smoking PC crap.

Right decision, wrong justification.


12 posted on 08/18/2011 6:12:47 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Sorry, May Day in Los Angeles is already reserved for illegal alien protests.


13 posted on 08/18/2011 6:14:43 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I’d think they’ll wait for the fifth of May, actually.


14 posted on 08/18/2011 6:15:38 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

You apparently don’t understand: Tobacco is BAD for you and those around you. Pot is GOOD for you and those around you.

You have to understand, they are both from a burning, smoldering weed, but only one is Good.


15 posted on 08/18/2011 6:16:45 AM PDT by DH ( Rick Perry 2012...Be proud to be an American once again!)
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To: BelegStrongbow

They nearly ban all firearms and preverts within 1,000’ of schools... maybe they should also ban smoking within the school zones. /s


16 posted on 08/18/2011 6:18:51 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Fiji Hill

No way. To ban the sale of tobacco and its products would cut a large hole in the TAX REVENUES of varied governments. This could NOT be allowed to occur. The fact that “evil” tobacco is reputed to kill a large percentage of its users cannot be taken into account. The governments cannot take the hit of tax revenue loss.
Some politicians will do the math, and realize the bonanza the legalization of all kinds of narcotics would accrue to governments by way of sales taxes on legal narcotics.
What matters is not right or wrong, but revenues to “help the people”. (big sarc)


17 posted on 08/18/2011 6:19:56 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: TigerLikesRooster; xzins
Every once in a while the California legislature goes and does something....... right.

A step towards restoring property rights to landlords.

18 posted on 08/18/2011 6:22:27 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The only medicinal pot user I know doesn’t smoke it, he vaporizes it and inhales the vapors, no smoke at all. He must be getting a form of hash oil.


19 posted on 08/18/2011 6:33:22 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Is there still anyone living in California?

Between the socialist economy and the fascist regulations, it’s amazing that there are still people there except actors/actresses and lawyers.

If one can, in any meaningful sense, consider them ‘people.’


20 posted on 08/18/2011 6:34:47 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: P-Marlowe

They have always had the right to ban smoking on their rental properties, this law is meaningless.


21 posted on 08/18/2011 6:35:38 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Jack Hammer

How ironic that you posted that remark on a forum that is based in CA.


22 posted on 08/18/2011 6:38:43 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Private property owners controlling the terms and conditions to the use of their property?

In California?!

I never thought we needed a law for something so obvious, but it’s California. If it were anything other than smoking, there would be a law (probably already is) giving the renter full control.


23 posted on 08/18/2011 6:51:09 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: HerrBlucher
They have always had the right to ban smoking on their rental properties, this law is meaningless.

It will override any local ordinance which would have prohibited landlords from discriminating against smokers and also sets a precedent that allows landlords to actually exercise discrimination based on behavior. It is a recognition of the property rights of landlords.

Although it may have no practical effect it is a step in the right direction taken, no doubt, by a legislature that had no intention of doing so.

24 posted on 08/18/2011 6:59:05 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: HerrBlucher

Actually, the vaporizor users use the same plant parts, not oil.


25 posted on 08/18/2011 7:13:07 AM PDT by Ueriah
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To: P-Marlowe
Although it may have no practical effect it is a step in the right direction taken, no doubt, by a legislature that had no intention of doing so.

The only direction this is going is to advance the war on smoking. As you have noted, the CA legislature does not give a rip about property rights, they have banned smoking in private establishments such as bars and retaurants. If they can get away with it, they will ban smoking even in one's own home, in fact, I think there is a City ordinance in Davis that you cannot even smoke in your backyard, and apparently, no state law that prevents such an ordinance.

26 posted on 08/18/2011 7:40:18 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Fiji Hill
Why do they keep passing such laws?

Revenues.

The war on tobacco is a sham. If it's so bad it should just be banned. Give me a break, gov't. But, of course, we're clever enough to know it isn't about public safety but about control and, most importantly, revenues.

27 posted on 08/18/2011 7:48:13 AM PDT by newzjunkey (12yo's consent law, AB499 (Atkins), passed the CA Asm 50-25, Sen vote next.)
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To: edcoil

Exactly. No law needed.

Just set up a government work program to fumigate the rentals - kind of like the federal housing insulation deal.
Just imagine all the new jobs - glory hallelujah. (sarc)

I mean if 86% of Californians don’t smoke, the problem should soon correct itself.


28 posted on 08/18/2011 8:13:15 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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