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5 Lessons Governor Sarah Palin learned from Hillary Clinton’s failed 2008 presidential campaign
Hillbuzz ^ | 08/18/2011 | Kevin Dujan

Posted on 08/18/2011 6:33:41 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads

In case you haven’t noticed, Governor Sarah Palin is running for president in 2012 — though she has not officially announced it yet. The reason she’s engaged in a stealth campaign for the Republican nomination is because she clearly learned from the mistakes of Hillary Clinton’s failed 2008 presidential bid. Here are the top 5 lessons Governor Palin pulled from Hillary’s defeat and how she will prevent the media, the Left, and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment from doing to her what they did to Clinton three years ago.

1. WAIT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO ENTER THE RACE SO THAT SHE IS NOT ATTACKED AS THE FRONTRUNNER OUT OF THE GATE

Hillary Clinton announced her presidential bid, officially, in February of 2007…but everyone knew she was running much earlier than that. She held a big fundraiser for HillPAC in October of 2006, to coincide with her birthday, which was the unofficial kickoff of her campaign. The media thus had an enormous amount of time to strategize how it was going to attack, malign, berate, and brutalize her through the primaries…to hand the nomination, and presidency, to Obama instead. Since the day after John Kerry’s defeat in 2004, the DNC establishment elite pushed for Obama to be the 2008 Democrat nominee, in much the same way the Cocktail Party GOP establishment has been stressing Mittens “Mood Ring” Romney for the 2012 Republican nomination (since, honestly, the day after John McCain’s loss). Obama was the Left’s darling and the chance for Democrats to claim they “made history” by electing “the historic and unprecedented first black president”, regardless of how incompetent this particular history-maker would prove to be. Romney’s just the latest in a long string of lackluster, Cocktail Party-approved, “it’s his turn!” Republicans who are nominated without any consideration for whether they can actually win that year or not (see also, Bob Dole in 1996 and John McCain in 2008). Where Democrats like making splashes with fresh, new, history-makers, the Cocktail Party GOP establishment has a sad history of rewarding whoever has been standing around waiting for better men to leave the stage so he can “have his turn”.

And, folks, it’s always a “he”. Both the DNC elite and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment hate women. In their oak-paneled, private clubs, both groups work overtime to ensure female politicians “know their place” and are discouraged from ever seeking the highest office in the land. The glass ceiling is real, and it’s buttressed from both sides of the political aisle because the male-dominated establishment has everything to lose if women — who have largely been excluded from positions of great importance in the heirarchy of both parties — suddenly secure their own pathway to the top.

The media hates women, too. Hence the rapid-fire rat-a-tat-tat of equal parts sexism and misogyny aimed at any woman perceived to be too influential and independent, too in control of her own supporters and organization. The media likes women who depend on the media itself for their power…the actresses, authors, singers, and public figures who need to say and do what the media wants, if these women want to keep receiving favorable coverage in newspapers, magazines, and televised gabfests.

When someone like Hillary Clinton comes along and dares to threaten the permanence of that glass ceiling, the media needs to destroy her because that’s not the script they approved for her. If she’d succeed, decades of keeping women “in their places” would fail. The establishment just can’t handle a shake-up like that. When a woman like Governor Palin enters the arena and flat-out refuses to play the media’s games, they pounce on her, because they need to make an example of her, or risk other women in the future thinking they don’t have to abide by the media’s rules. Ladies, you are just not allowed to threaten the impotent little men behind the great curtains of power (“So, stop trying!”, shouts the media).

Hillary’s presidential campaign suffered because the media was able to attack her for more than a full year before the November 2008 election, hammering away at her status as “front-runner” and repeatedly running the meme that the nomination was hers to lose. This was actually not the case at all, because the narrative was very much written at the DNC that Obama would be the nominee, because the party wanted to make history with a black president before a female one. Truth be told, they still don’t care about electing a woman to anything. The media, always eager to brutalize any woman for daring to step outside her assigned bounds, loved the notion of building Hillary into that paper “front runner”, just to tear her down so an epic narrative could be written about Obama vanquishing the Clintons, destroying the old Democrat Party, and creating a new Obama-party in his own image as “The One”. The Great and Powerful Exotic Oz! 2008 will one day be looked back on by historians as the year when almost every “journalist” in this country engaged in nonstop masturbatory fiction, ascribing to Obama every dream they’d ever personally held and transforming him into a mythic, godlike figure…the American Pharaoh…who needed a monstrous, haggard, witch of a woman as his foil. This is the picture they quite unfairly painted of Hillary Clinton — a woman who dared to go after what she wanted, was savaged for it, and became the wicked witch — in endless political cartoons –who evilly tried to halt Obama’s ascension to greatness.”Surrender, Hillary!”, the media, the Left, and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment all shouted together.

Governor Palin knows full well what the media and the establishtment combined to do to Hillary Clinton, so she ingeniously refused to let herself ever be called “the frontrunner” for the Republican nomination in 2012. Palin smartly allowed Romney to be the frontrunner, so he can be the one the media tears down, since “journalists” rarely stumble upon new ideas. The narrative of “look how the mighty frontrunner has fallen!” is one they enjoyed writing so much in 2008 that they were sure to revel in it again now. These people rarely come up with new ideas. If they were writing in Hollywood instead of at Politico.com, they’d be the ones churning out all those lame, lackluster, remakes of bad 70s and 80s films. Governor Palin did not allow herself to be an anointed or expected heir to the nomination because she knew the media would just recycle the old anti-Hillary playbook and relish snatching that frontrunner status from her. They wanted to stage this remake of 2008 Hillary bashing, recast with an Alaskan, and the Governor refused to indulge them.

Instead, Governor Palin broke all the rules and has essentially played head games with the media since the McCain campaign ended. She knows exactly what drives these clowns nuts, and delights in pushing all their buttons. It’s clear to anyone who’s seen footage of the Governor on her old high school basketball team where she learned these moves. She is masterful at psyching out her opponents. She excels in schooling fools. And any Republican running for office needs to understand one simple fact: the media is your opponent, as much as any Democrat you’ll face in a general election. When conservatives in particular run for office, they are always up against not just a Democrat and the media, but the Cocktail Party GOP establishment too. It’s three-on-one from the get go, and Governor Palin is someone smart enough to try to even her own odds.

2. ALLOW OTHER CANDIDATES TO BE CALLED "UNELECTABLE", AMONGST OTHER MEDIA MEMES SO SHE CAN BE THE ALTERNATIVE.

With Governor Palin refusing to officially announce her presidential bid when the media would have wanted her to, she forced other candidates like Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry to enter the fray, so they could be demolished by the media and deemed “unelectable” for various and sundry reasons. This is another lesson to be learned from what the media did to Hillary Clinton in the leadup to the early Democrat primaries back in 2007-2008. “Unelectable” was one of the whisper campaigns used against Hillary, with the media assisting Obama by training many voters to parrot “she just can’t win!” to any canvassers knocking on their doors on Hillary’s behalf. In Hillary’s case, the media kept insisting Hillary would lose in a general election because of “Clinton baggage”, because people were still upset she never divorced her husband, or because “people weren’t ready for a woman in office”. I worked the 2008 campaign for Hillary, and heard these cliches over and over in the leadup to the Iowa Caucus. At the same time, the media worked hard to make sure voters were terrified of voicing “unelectable” concerns about Obama, with people like Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, and Keith Olbermann insisting that anyone who made note of Obama’s inexperience, his lack of executive leadership, and his dearth of accomplishments was just racist. RAACIST! RAACIST, RAACIST, RAAACIST! For asking anything at all about Obama or his record.

The media was able to aim all of its attention at Hillary, encouraging the “unelectable” meme against her, while simultaneously threatening the public with accusations of racism for any and all criticism of Obama. In 2011, Governor Palin has expertly avoided the same thing happening to her, because it’s Bachmann and Perry who are being called “unelectable”, with the media working hard to savage the two of them while Palin stands on the sidelines waiting for the frenzy to abate. She knows she will receive more than her fair share of attacks, but she’s very strategically limiting the amount of time she’ll be subjected to them.

Meanwhile, the media’s still pushing Romney as “the likely nominee” and saying narely a negative word about the man (because all of those attacks are being saved for the general election, just like what happened to John McCain…when a 10 year love affair with the media’s darling “marverick” twisted into a nonstop hatefest aimed at McCain to guarantee Obama’s win).

Governor Palin is watching while Bachmann’s being called every name in the book and the media’s lampooning her as a crazy person who is…wait for it…unelectable. Governor Palin sees the media claiming Perry is…wait for it…unelectable because he’s too caustic, too combatative, and too “unelectably unpresidential”.

You see by now that certain purposefully nebulous and undefined words like “unelectable” or “polarizing” are very casually tossed about by the media, as they chum the waters with this bait, hoping Americans who only casually follow politics will snatch it up. The media knows once hooked on these memes, it’s almost impossible for candidates to disentangle voters from the narrative the media spun. The competitive “Saracuda” spirit that served Governor Palin so well on the basketball court remains very much a part of her DNA…and her operating strategy for the 2012 nomination. Before she emerges as an official candidate either later this month or in early September, Governor Palin will have allowed the media to do as much damage as possible to her primary opponents while awaiting the perfect opportunity to make her own presence known. She’s got their number, you betcha.

3. LET THE MEDIA VET- OR,MORE APT, RIP APART-HER COMPETITORS BEFORE REVEALING HER TRUE INTENTIONS

This is the very heart of what sank Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, because the media refused to vet Obama, before or after he became the official Democrat nominee. Because Hillary announced her candidacy so early, she was the prime focus of media attention from Day One. The lazy “journalists” assigned to cover the campaign delighted in rehashing old attacks from the 90s or just sloppily calling Hillary “polarizing” or “unelectable” several different ways in three or four paragraphs before calling it a day. The media decided it wanted Obama to win, so it didn’t want to risk uncovering anything unflattering about him. Having Hillary Clinton to punch around, all day, every day, gave the media something to do besides investigating who Obama really was or what he would do to the country if elected our president. Governor Palin has expertly avoided becoming the center and focus of all attention in the 2012 Republican nomination race, which is an impressive feat considering how much more interesting she is than any of her competitors.

Palin knows when she walks into a room, the attention naturally gravitates towards her, because people WANT to know more about her, they WANT to hear her speak, and they know they are in the presence of someone they will tell their grandkids about whenever they are lucky enough to meet her. By keeping her distance, Palin has forced the media to talk about Bachmann, Perry, and other 2012 hopefuls instead of just fixating nonstop coverage on Palin herself (which, truth be told, the media really wants to do). This way, when Governor Palin actually does enter the race, she won’t have to do all the vetting and investigating of her opponents herself. She won’t be in Hillary’s situation where the media flat-out refuses to ever write a single word vetting an opponent, because all the attention was focused squarely on herself.

4. TAKE DOWN THE ESTABLISHMENT ELITE BEFORE THEY EVEN SEE HER ATTACKS COMING.

If you saw “The Undefeated”, you know full well Governor Palin has a history of clobbering the Cocktail Party GOP establishment, which most certainly deserved to be clobbered. And then some. Palin understands what the Cocktail Party is all about — the status quo — and how it enables the Left to do all the terrible things it does to this country, because the establishment fears putting its own comforts at risk by upsetting the decades-in-practice, good old boys’ rapport that very much exists between the power brokers of the Democrat and Republican parties.

At their highest levels, Democrats and Republicans are often in cahoots, because the elite on either side has a vested interest in protecting their counterparts across the aisle. Governor Palin doesn’t care about any of these people, and would certainly enjoy booting them all out of power, since she’s never benefitted from any of this sycophancy and cronyism. And never will, clearly. The establishment hates her, she hates them, and Governor Palin wouldn’t have it any other way.

By not announcing a presidential bid, as she was clearly expected to do, Governor Palin prevented the Cocktail Party GOP establishment from doing to her what the DNC establishment elites did to Hillary Clinton. Palin knows the Cocktail Party wants Romney to be the man who loses to Obama in 2012, but she refuses to let the establishment give Obama a pass in 2012 like the one he was handed on a silver platter by McCain in 2008. If you remember, McCain essentially gave up his presidential campaign in September of 2008 and refused to allow Governor Palin to go on the offensive the way she wanted to. The Cocktail Party GOP establishment was terrified of being called RAAACIST! for challenging Obama on anything or subjecting him to the direct criticism a presidential campaign normally requires. Governor Palin chafed at these limitations and seemingly formed a personal decision to never allow Obama to have it so easy again. She’s lived rent-free in his nightmares ever since. The media, the Left, and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment are all clearly against her — and Governor Palin knows it. If anything she ever does in her presidential campaign perplexes you, trust the Governor to know what she’s doing, since her personal history is rife with examples of her outsmarting the establishment time and time again. She is, I truly believe, the best political thinker of her generation.

5. CULTIVATE A NETWORK OF INDIVIDUAL, PERSONAL SUPPORT ON THE GROUND BEFORE HIRING THE CONSULTING TEAMS AND MAKING THE CAMPAIGN OFFICIAL.

Most importantly of all, the biggest lesson Governor Palin learned from Hillary Clinton’s 2008 failings was to cultivate a campaign network that’s bottom-up instead of top-down. Though social networking was still relatively new in 2008 (and iPhones were only released in the middle of the campaign), Hillary’s top-tier team really didn’t make any large-scale successful efforts to get regular, individuals engaged in the campaign in a substantive way. There were a lot of big events, fundraisers, rallies, and the like, with the social networking used mainly to keep people informed of where they could go to stand and listen to Hillary speak in person, or maybe do some phonebanking. The campaign was directed by consultants and various experts, many of them longtime Clinton confidants, who decided where and when things should happen and how everything should be run. Very little in terms of ideas or energy was ever really absorbed from on-the-ground supporters and carried to higher levels. Everyone in the big offices believed they knew best, since they elected Bill Clinton to office twice and saw this as merely their third time cooking with the old formula. Governor Palin’s 2012 presidential campaign will be unlike anything that’s come before it, because the energy fueling it really comes from individual, average, Americans who are exicted to see her run for the presidency and are committed to doing everything they can do to help her. Few are waiting for a directive to come down from an official Palin 2012 campaign to tell them what needs to be done. People have been organizing for some time, countering the media’s lies, working their email and Facebook networks to pool together as Palin supporters in their areas. Everything that David Axlerod aggressively astro-turfed and fabricated for Obama in 2008 is happening organically on its own for Governor Palin.

She’s running. Her supporters know it. The media, as always, is clueless. The Cocktail Party GOP establishment is, in a word, stupid. All the while, the momma grizzly sizes up her competition, dedicates her trademarked knowing stare, and readies herself to launch into the campaign on her own terms, with absolutely all the might God gave her. She’s going to win, too, because the woman’s clearly on a mission and has all the right intentions, right when she’s needed the most. It really is her moment. She’s the best hope this country has got. Please help her in any way you possibly can!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; hillary; hillaryclinton; obama; palin; romney; sarahpalin
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Outstanding summary of the brilliance in Palin's delay in announcing her candidacy.
1 posted on 08/18/2011 6:33:52 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads
The "she's not running" brigade are deeply saddened.
2 posted on 08/18/2011 6:38:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Profit" is a measure of how efficiently an entity utilizes the raw materials at its command.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

I support Palin and want her to run... BUT I have zero interest in voting for someone who hasn’t proven themselves worthy in the debates.

I wanted Palin to run so that should could prove the media wrong by performing well against the others in the primaries, but if she just thinks she can jump in at the last minute and get my vote without actually earning it, she’s got another thing coming.


3 posted on 08/18/2011 6:41:16 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Hillbuzz, a gay blogger living in Chicago who was for Hillary Clinton...umm no thanks. I have to hand it to the little guy he carved out a unique niche blog. He has all valid points except one thing, she will not beat Obongo in the general. There has not been one shred of data showing her doing that, and that my friend is what patters not how vociferous her supporters are or the purity of her Conservative message. I voted for Reagan, I was around when he campaigned, I heard him speak LIVE and Sarah Palin is no Reagan. She needs to stay on the sidelines, snipe form the tall grass and help get Obama out of the White House, that is her calling. Her running is Barry Goldwater redux.
4 posted on 08/18/2011 6:41:24 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The "she's not running" brigade

They are actually helping Sarah Palin without realizing it.

5 posted on 08/18/2011 6:43:16 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (Write In Sarah Palin)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Yep, don’t shoot until you see the whites of their eyes. The current candidates are just cannon fodder for the left and the media, a distraction to keep them busy until the heavy hitters come out.


6 posted on 08/18/2011 6:44:09 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Brices Crossroads; Clyde5445; RedMDer; trisham; Bigtigermike; Lakeshark; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
GAME ON!


Sarah Palin's Ping List!


7 posted on 08/18/2011 6:48:41 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

..and don’t ever, ever, EVER let your fitness routine slide


8 posted on 08/18/2011 6:48:56 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Brices Crossroads

Hillary’s creepy. Sarah has nothing to learn from her...


9 posted on 08/18/2011 6:50:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Kevin Dujan gets it. He does.

Sarah is no dope. She did indeed learn from Hillary’s mistakes. And though the article doesn’t mention it, I believe Mrs. Palin learned from Ronald Reagan too. If you recall, Reagan announced his candidacy in NOVEMBER, 1979.


10 posted on 08/18/2011 6:54:59 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Concern Troll?


11 posted on 08/18/2011 6:55:44 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Why should she debate with (fill in the blank) candidates who will be a distant memory also-ran by next March?


12 posted on 08/18/2011 6:57:11 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Are you under the impression that there are not going to be any more debates?


13 posted on 08/18/2011 6:59:07 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: Brices Crossroads

The homosexuals at Hillbuzz are highly mistaken if they think Governor Palin learned from Hillary, but their points are well taken.

Governor Palin is a million times smarter and more politically savvy than Hillary can ever hope to be. For example, Palin’s bus tour was not an idiot *listening tour* and Palin holds her plans close whereas Hillary surrounded herself with Bill’s thug pals.

Governor Palin is honest and I ask everyone here and also in the news media, how many e-mails of Hillary’s have news media published so the public could read?


14 posted on 08/18/2011 6:59:31 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: GOPJ

Nothing to learn?

Ahh, grasshopper. Go read the works of Sun Tsu. I bet Sarah has.


15 posted on 08/18/2011 6:59:31 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
someone who hasn’t proven themselves worthy in the debates.

Which debates? The debating schedule for candidates generally begins in January of the year of the election, because that is about the time the Iowa campaign kicks into full gear. They have a debate generally 1 week or so before the Iowa caucus. That is when the debates have traditionally started.

16 posted on 08/18/2011 6:59:31 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Brices Crossroads

Excellent assessment!


17 posted on 08/18/2011 7:00:06 AM PDT by caprock
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To: TexasFreeper2009

She was in one in 2008 against Biden.


18 posted on 08/18/2011 7:02:09 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: pburgh01

He’s one of the sharpest analysts out there, which is why his blog is popular.

Actually there’s loads of info showing that Palin could be Barry in the general. It starts with repeated polls of them going head-to-head: Barry consistently fails to reach 50%, which is required of an incumbent to win. Given that the undecided tend to break 4-to-1 for the challenger, most such polls show them in a dead heat—before she’s even declared.

But more important than the overall popular vote is how the two do in swing states. Throughout the Rust Belt, Palin tends to poll very well and Barry very poorly.

Further, a lot of elections are driven by turnout, both among the base and among supporters in the thin-voting moderate/independent band. In both cases Palin voters are highly motivated and Barry voters are not.

She’s in a great position against the little commie.


19 posted on 08/18/2011 7:02:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: factoryrat

Exactly!

I havent watched any of those “debates” because I just dont care at this point.

Which person from them has really got long-term momentum?

Herman Cain? Remember him? He got his wind from a debate last winter, now he is nowhere to be seen.


20 posted on 08/18/2011 7:04:21 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I wanted Palin to run so that should could prove the media wrong by performing well against the others in the primaries, but if she just thinks she can jump in at the last minute and get my vote without actually earning it, she’s got another thing coming.

Last minute?

The 2012 election is 14.5 months away.

Ronald Reagan let the clock tick down to 12 months.

CFR-Rick Perry just got in last week.

Did CFR-Rick get in at the "last minute?"

Just because the cable news networks need stories to cover does not mean that a candidate has to declare three years ahead of time.

Are you saying that there is no time left for debates, with 14.5 months to go?

PS - She is declaring on September 3rd. Is that "the last minute?"

21 posted on 08/18/2011 7:04:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Profit" is a measure of how efficiently an entity utilizes the raw materials at its command.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Isn’t Hillbuzz a group of homosexuals who had previously supported the presidential run of Hillary Clinton? (And you think they’re “brilliant”?)


22 posted on 08/18/2011 7:05:37 AM PDT by jla
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If she gets in then, then fine. but if she thinks she can wait till the middle of next year after all the debates are done (which is what this article implied) then no, I don't think that's ok.

I have no problem with her waiting this long, or even a little longer. I have a problem with her possibly waiting until after all the debates are over and entering right before the actual primaries.

23 posted on 08/18/2011 7:07:12 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It seems logical..... let the field narrow with the heavy weights like Perry and Romney..... then when the real debates are set it will be the better minds forefront. I will include Ron Paul in this as I keep going back to last election and listening to his points... many came true and he was more spot on than McCain and Obama ever where...


24 posted on 08/18/2011 7:08:36 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I watched her interview with Sean Hannity last Friday night. She said she would announce her intentions in September. I think you will get to see her in plenty of debates.


25 posted on 08/18/2011 7:08:58 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: Brices Crossroads
Despite the source, that is exactly the case and exactly what is needed. He got it right.

Kevin Dujan: At their highest levels, Democrats and Republicans are often in cahoots, because the elite on either side has a vested interest in protecting their counterparts across the aisle. Governor Palin doesn’t care about any of these people, and would certainly enjoy booting them all out of power, since she’s never benefitted from any of this sycophancy and cronyism. And never will, clearly. The establishment hates her, she hates them, and Governor Palin wouldn’t have it any other way.

A few others here are starting to realize it is the true criteria for a proper candidate.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/2764781/posts?page=35#35

8/17/2011 10:36:42 AM · 35 of 51
TLI to Covert Operative:

We need a outsider like Palin who has a reputation of putting people of her own party in jail.

TA-DA! The winner!

That is exactly what this nation needs as Congress and the fed-gov is packed with corruption and un-prosecuted active criminal activity.

I do not see ANY of the other candidates getting into office and starting investigations on both "sides."

Gov. Palin would be the only one to even pose that threat.

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26 posted on 08/18/2011 7:09:50 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Jess79
Like I just said, this September, I have no problem with.

But the article said.. “WAIT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO ENTER THE RACE” as long as possible to me means - waiting until after all the debates are over and people are about to actually start voting in the primaries. That is unacceptable to me.

27 posted on 08/18/2011 7:11:44 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: VanDeKoik

YES SHE WAS AND SHE KICKED HIS BUTT. eVERYBODY KNOWS HOW BRILLIANT JOE BIDEN IS.


28 posted on 08/18/2011 7:13:16 AM PDT by papageo
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To: jla; Brices Crossroads
Isn’t Hillbuzz a group of homosexuals who had previously supported the presidential run of Hillary Clinton? (And you think they’re “brilliant”?)

It's you who lacks reading comprehension!

Brices Crossroads wrote: Outstanding summary of the brilliance in Palin's delay in announcing her candidacy.

DUH

29 posted on 08/18/2011 7:15:48 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Ronald Reagan became an announced candidate in the middle of November 1979.


30 posted on 08/18/2011 7:16:04 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TexasFreeper2009
If she gets in then, then fine. but if she thinks she can wait till the middle of next year after all the debates are done (which is what this article implied) then no, I don't think that's ok.

You're an idiot.

You just make bullshit scenarios up and say "she better not do that."

I bet you make everybody around you a nervous wreck with all you bullshit pondering.

31 posted on 08/18/2011 7:18:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Profit" is a measure of how efficiently an entity utilizes the raw materials at its command.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

I totally disagree with this statement..”The media thus had an enormous amount of time to strategize how it was going to attack, malign, berate, and brutalize her through the primaries…to hand the nomination, and presidency, to Obama instead.”

Hilary was the media darling, no media attacks or hard questions whatsoever, but that changed over night when Edward Kennedy backed Obama. Suddenly Hilary was death. It was like watching FR take over the NYtimes and WAPO (which no doubt delighted me) . I could not believe the attacks that suddenly came out. His assessment is totally wrong, Obama was a no where candidate until that moment.


32 posted on 08/18/2011 7:19:02 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: jjotto

Yes, but when did the primaries start and when were the debates?

The start date means nothing by itself, it’s only important how far ahead of the primaries and the debates that matter. Primaries have been moved up further and further over the years, and thus have the debates.

My only point is that I want to see her earn my and everyone elses vote, not just jump in a week before New Hampshire next year, without being tested, and without getting the opportunity to prove the media wrong and hone her debate skills, ect.

I have no problem with her waiting a while longer, but for me personally mid September is the drop dead date for her entering.


33 posted on 08/18/2011 7:19:33 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Brices Crossroads
I think one of her reasons is how much a campaign cost. She isn't attached to the deep pockets several of the others are.

Besides, she loves her family and summer is such a great time to spend with them.

Another sign she is running, this is a biggy, is she did not do a second season with TLC on Alaska. An offer was made, she flatly turned it down. Anyone with any brains should have recognized this.

That was the reason I knew Trump was just mouthing...he did another season with his show.

34 posted on 08/18/2011 7:20:46 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I was responding to the article.

The article said she would “wait as long as possible” ...

well, technically “as long as possible” would be right before the primaries on February 6 2012.

I have a problem if she wait till February 1st of next year is what I am saying.


35 posted on 08/18/2011 7:23:00 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
....but if she just thinks she can jump in at the last minute and get my vote without actually earning it, she’s got another thing coming.

I'm sure you didn't vote for O in 2008 so that only leaves McCain. Did he "earn" your vote?

Pray that Palin runs and gets elected.
36 posted on 08/18/2011 7:23:10 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: TexasFreeper2009

She’s going to be in a good three months before the first caucus or primary. That’s plenty of debates.

And she’ll be the only candidate we have who has experience—and success—in a one-on-one national general election debate.

Also, she’s always been a good debater. There’s a great video on the net of a debate she was in in her race for governor.


37 posted on 08/18/2011 7:23:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Walkingfeather

I think you’re half wrong about that. Obama won the early primaries which put him insurmountably ahead of Hillary, who came on strong at the end.

The press was enthralled with the very idea of the first black president much more than with the first female president. Hillary was thought to be both an appendix of Bill and the boss of Bill and too independent for much of the press.


38 posted on 08/18/2011 7:25:08 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“I wanted Palin to run so that should could prove the media wrong by performing well against the others in the primaries, but...”

Words of a typical concern troll.

“...if she just thinks she can jump in at the last minute and get my vote without actually earning it, she’s got another think coming.”

LOL. methinks texasfreeper09 thinks excessively highly of what he/she thinks.


39 posted on 08/18/2011 7:31:52 AM PDT by ngat
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I remember watching Sarah in debates 4 years ago. She’s been debating CONSTANTLY since then on Greta, FB, other media outlets. Besides, the debates are crap, anyway. They’d be asking her lame questions about Bristol’s love life, or some other stupid things rather then focus on the issues at hand. Or, like Bachmann, ask if she submits to her husband.

The debate I want to see is Sarah as our nominee against Obama. Sweet!


40 posted on 08/18/2011 7:33:29 AM PDT by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: onyx
Woke up a little feisty today, didn't ‘cha?
41 posted on 08/18/2011 7:33:36 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: ngat

I LOVE Palin and have wanted her to enter the race for YEARS.

I have no idea why someone can’t make a simple statement without everyone jumping on them.

I WANT her to enter.
I dont mind her waiting a LITTLE longer.

I DONT WANT her to wait till January of 2012, it’s that simple. Don’t read any more into it.

Geeez.


42 posted on 08/18/2011 7:34:48 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Brices Crossroads

If shes smart (and she is) she should wait for the girls to grow up before running..
THEY would HATE her running.. as well as Track and probably Todd..
Beside that she really does not NEED to be President..

She already has a wonderful life.. and Todd is independent not republican anyway..
She is doing JUST fine as she is..

Bachmann would make just as fine a President as she would...
2020 will be just soon enough.. or even 2016 if need be..
OR as Veep for Bachmann in 2016.. which would be better..


43 posted on 08/18/2011 7:39:29 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

LOL. I am free at last. Our wonderful 3rd Qrt FReepathon has meet our goal! FReepers are the absolute best! FReepers always come through, so we’re on the air through this quarter!

Now I can devote my time here to Sarah Palin threads and at just the right time! I’m certain she’s running so this is truly an exciting time!

Our primaries will be robust with a field of candidates to please almost everyone. GO SARAH!


44 posted on 08/18/2011 7:40:07 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

She is not running. Rick Perry’s announcement sealed it. Palin and Perry had an understanding that they wouldn’t run against each other.

Maybe Perry picks her for veep though.


45 posted on 08/18/2011 7:40:29 AM PDT by ProudGOP
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To: ngat

hehe

“I’m going to vote for Osama because Sarah Palin has only been in the spotlight and under the microscope for five years. That’s not enough information for me.”


46 posted on 08/18/2011 7:40:47 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I have a problem if she wait till February 1st of next year is what I am saying.

Why?

Because there wouldn't be enough time for what, exactly?

It is impractical for her to wait that long, but the idea that anything substantive would be neglected if she did is idiotic.

I repeat: Just because cable news channels need things to report on does not mean that candidates should construct campaign schedules for their benefit.

If you want state-controlled media in control, Ubama will be the next president.

47 posted on 08/18/2011 7:40:48 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Profit" is a measure of how efficiently an entity utilizes the raw materials at its command.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Fortunately, the article was not expressing Gov. Palin's opinion. Just speculating on what her strategy might be based on Hillary's experience.
48 posted on 08/18/2011 7:44:35 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

$20.12 headed her way as soon as she says she’s running. Let that trickle down your leg Chris, or shove it up your behind.


49 posted on 08/18/2011 7:47:16 AM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

There will be many debates where she can ‘prove’ herself to you. The flippin election is almost a year and a half away, for Pitty’s sake.


50 posted on 08/18/2011 7:49:33 AM PDT by GlockLady (Right is right even if nobody else is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone else is doing it.)
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