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5 Lessons Governor Sarah Palin learned from Hillary Clinton’s failed 2008 presidential campaign
Hillbuzz ^ | 08/18/2011 | Kevin Dujan

Posted on 08/18/2011 6:33:41 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads

In case you haven’t noticed, Governor Sarah Palin is running for president in 2012 — though she has not officially announced it yet. The reason she’s engaged in a stealth campaign for the Republican nomination is because she clearly learned from the mistakes of Hillary Clinton’s failed 2008 presidential bid. Here are the top 5 lessons Governor Palin pulled from Hillary’s defeat and how she will prevent the media, the Left, and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment from doing to her what they did to Clinton three years ago.

1. WAIT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO ENTER THE RACE SO THAT SHE IS NOT ATTACKED AS THE FRONTRUNNER OUT OF THE GATE

Hillary Clinton announced her presidential bid, officially, in February of 2007…but everyone knew she was running much earlier than that. She held a big fundraiser for HillPAC in October of 2006, to coincide with her birthday, which was the unofficial kickoff of her campaign. The media thus had an enormous amount of time to strategize how it was going to attack, malign, berate, and brutalize her through the primaries…to hand the nomination, and presidency, to Obama instead. Since the day after John Kerry’s defeat in 2004, the DNC establishment elite pushed for Obama to be the 2008 Democrat nominee, in much the same way the Cocktail Party GOP establishment has been stressing Mittens “Mood Ring” Romney for the 2012 Republican nomination (since, honestly, the day after John McCain’s loss). Obama was the Left’s darling and the chance for Democrats to claim they “made history” by electing “the historic and unprecedented first black president”, regardless of how incompetent this particular history-maker would prove to be. Romney’s just the latest in a long string of lackluster, Cocktail Party-approved, “it’s his turn!” Republicans who are nominated without any consideration for whether they can actually win that year or not (see also, Bob Dole in 1996 and John McCain in 2008). Where Democrats like making splashes with fresh, new, history-makers, the Cocktail Party GOP establishment has a sad history of rewarding whoever has been standing around waiting for better men to leave the stage so he can “have his turn”.

And, folks, it’s always a “he”. Both the DNC elite and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment hate women. In their oak-paneled, private clubs, both groups work overtime to ensure female politicians “know their place” and are discouraged from ever seeking the highest office in the land. The glass ceiling is real, and it’s buttressed from both sides of the political aisle because the male-dominated establishment has everything to lose if women — who have largely been excluded from positions of great importance in the heirarchy of both parties — suddenly secure their own pathway to the top.

The media hates women, too. Hence the rapid-fire rat-a-tat-tat of equal parts sexism and misogyny aimed at any woman perceived to be too influential and independent, too in control of her own supporters and organization. The media likes women who depend on the media itself for their power…the actresses, authors, singers, and public figures who need to say and do what the media wants, if these women want to keep receiving favorable coverage in newspapers, magazines, and televised gabfests.

When someone like Hillary Clinton comes along and dares to threaten the permanence of that glass ceiling, the media needs to destroy her because that’s not the script they approved for her. If she’d succeed, decades of keeping women “in their places” would fail. The establishment just can’t handle a shake-up like that. When a woman like Governor Palin enters the arena and flat-out refuses to play the media’s games, they pounce on her, because they need to make an example of her, or risk other women in the future thinking they don’t have to abide by the media’s rules. Ladies, you are just not allowed to threaten the impotent little men behind the great curtains of power (“So, stop trying!”, shouts the media).

Hillary’s presidential campaign suffered because the media was able to attack her for more than a full year before the November 2008 election, hammering away at her status as “front-runner” and repeatedly running the meme that the nomination was hers to lose. This was actually not the case at all, because the narrative was very much written at the DNC that Obama would be the nominee, because the party wanted to make history with a black president before a female one. Truth be told, they still don’t care about electing a woman to anything. The media, always eager to brutalize any woman for daring to step outside her assigned bounds, loved the notion of building Hillary into that paper “front runner”, just to tear her down so an epic narrative could be written about Obama vanquishing the Clintons, destroying the old Democrat Party, and creating a new Obama-party in his own image as “The One”. The Great and Powerful Exotic Oz! 2008 will one day be looked back on by historians as the year when almost every “journalist” in this country engaged in nonstop masturbatory fiction, ascribing to Obama every dream they’d ever personally held and transforming him into a mythic, godlike figure…the American Pharaoh…who needed a monstrous, haggard, witch of a woman as his foil. This is the picture they quite unfairly painted of Hillary Clinton — a woman who dared to go after what she wanted, was savaged for it, and became the wicked witch — in endless political cartoons –who evilly tried to halt Obama’s ascension to greatness.”Surrender, Hillary!”, the media, the Left, and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment all shouted together.

Governor Palin knows full well what the media and the establishtment combined to do to Hillary Clinton, so she ingeniously refused to let herself ever be called “the frontrunner” for the Republican nomination in 2012. Palin smartly allowed Romney to be the frontrunner, so he can be the one the media tears down, since “journalists” rarely stumble upon new ideas. The narrative of “look how the mighty frontrunner has fallen!” is one they enjoyed writing so much in 2008 that they were sure to revel in it again now. These people rarely come up with new ideas. If they were writing in Hollywood instead of at Politico.com, they’d be the ones churning out all those lame, lackluster, remakes of bad 70s and 80s films. Governor Palin did not allow herself to be an anointed or expected heir to the nomination because she knew the media would just recycle the old anti-Hillary playbook and relish snatching that frontrunner status from her. They wanted to stage this remake of 2008 Hillary bashing, recast with an Alaskan, and the Governor refused to indulge them.

Instead, Governor Palin broke all the rules and has essentially played head games with the media since the McCain campaign ended. She knows exactly what drives these clowns nuts, and delights in pushing all their buttons. It’s clear to anyone who’s seen footage of the Governor on her old high school basketball team where she learned these moves. She is masterful at psyching out her opponents. She excels in schooling fools. And any Republican running for office needs to understand one simple fact: the media is your opponent, as much as any Democrat you’ll face in a general election. When conservatives in particular run for office, they are always up against not just a Democrat and the media, but the Cocktail Party GOP establishment too. It’s three-on-one from the get go, and Governor Palin is someone smart enough to try to even her own odds.

2. ALLOW OTHER CANDIDATES TO BE CALLED "UNELECTABLE", AMONGST OTHER MEDIA MEMES SO SHE CAN BE THE ALTERNATIVE.

With Governor Palin refusing to officially announce her presidential bid when the media would have wanted her to, she forced other candidates like Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry to enter the fray, so they could be demolished by the media and deemed “unelectable” for various and sundry reasons. This is another lesson to be learned from what the media did to Hillary Clinton in the leadup to the early Democrat primaries back in 2007-2008. “Unelectable” was one of the whisper campaigns used against Hillary, with the media assisting Obama by training many voters to parrot “she just can’t win!” to any canvassers knocking on their doors on Hillary’s behalf. In Hillary’s case, the media kept insisting Hillary would lose in a general election because of “Clinton baggage”, because people were still upset she never divorced her husband, or because “people weren’t ready for a woman in office”. I worked the 2008 campaign for Hillary, and heard these cliches over and over in the leadup to the Iowa Caucus. At the same time, the media worked hard to make sure voters were terrified of voicing “unelectable” concerns about Obama, with people like Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, and Keith Olbermann insisting that anyone who made note of Obama’s inexperience, his lack of executive leadership, and his dearth of accomplishments was just racist. RAACIST! RAACIST, RAACIST, RAAACIST! For asking anything at all about Obama or his record.

The media was able to aim all of its attention at Hillary, encouraging the “unelectable” meme against her, while simultaneously threatening the public with accusations of racism for any and all criticism of Obama. In 2011, Governor Palin has expertly avoided the same thing happening to her, because it’s Bachmann and Perry who are being called “unelectable”, with the media working hard to savage the two of them while Palin stands on the sidelines waiting for the frenzy to abate. She knows she will receive more than her fair share of attacks, but she’s very strategically limiting the amount of time she’ll be subjected to them.

Meanwhile, the media’s still pushing Romney as “the likely nominee” and saying narely a negative word about the man (because all of those attacks are being saved for the general election, just like what happened to John McCain…when a 10 year love affair with the media’s darling “marverick” twisted into a nonstop hatefest aimed at McCain to guarantee Obama’s win).

Governor Palin is watching while Bachmann’s being called every name in the book and the media’s lampooning her as a crazy person who is…wait for it…unelectable. Governor Palin sees the media claiming Perry is…wait for it…unelectable because he’s too caustic, too combatative, and too “unelectably unpresidential”.

You see by now that certain purposefully nebulous and undefined words like “unelectable” or “polarizing” are very casually tossed about by the media, as they chum the waters with this bait, hoping Americans who only casually follow politics will snatch it up. The media knows once hooked on these memes, it’s almost impossible for candidates to disentangle voters from the narrative the media spun. The competitive “Saracuda” spirit that served Governor Palin so well on the basketball court remains very much a part of her DNA…and her operating strategy for the 2012 nomination. Before she emerges as an official candidate either later this month or in early September, Governor Palin will have allowed the media to do as much damage as possible to her primary opponents while awaiting the perfect opportunity to make her own presence known. She’s got their number, you betcha.

3. LET THE MEDIA VET- OR,MORE APT, RIP APART-HER COMPETITORS BEFORE REVEALING HER TRUE INTENTIONS

This is the very heart of what sank Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, because the media refused to vet Obama, before or after he became the official Democrat nominee. Because Hillary announced her candidacy so early, she was the prime focus of media attention from Day One. The lazy “journalists” assigned to cover the campaign delighted in rehashing old attacks from the 90s or just sloppily calling Hillary “polarizing” or “unelectable” several different ways in three or four paragraphs before calling it a day. The media decided it wanted Obama to win, so it didn’t want to risk uncovering anything unflattering about him. Having Hillary Clinton to punch around, all day, every day, gave the media something to do besides investigating who Obama really was or what he would do to the country if elected our president. Governor Palin has expertly avoided becoming the center and focus of all attention in the 2012 Republican nomination race, which is an impressive feat considering how much more interesting she is than any of her competitors.

Palin knows when she walks into a room, the attention naturally gravitates towards her, because people WANT to know more about her, they WANT to hear her speak, and they know they are in the presence of someone they will tell their grandkids about whenever they are lucky enough to meet her. By keeping her distance, Palin has forced the media to talk about Bachmann, Perry, and other 2012 hopefuls instead of just fixating nonstop coverage on Palin herself (which, truth be told, the media really wants to do). This way, when Governor Palin actually does enter the race, she won’t have to do all the vetting and investigating of her opponents herself. She won’t be in Hillary’s situation where the media flat-out refuses to ever write a single word vetting an opponent, because all the attention was focused squarely on herself.

4. TAKE DOWN THE ESTABLISHMENT ELITE BEFORE THEY EVEN SEE HER ATTACKS COMING.

If you saw “The Undefeated”, you know full well Governor Palin has a history of clobbering the Cocktail Party GOP establishment, which most certainly deserved to be clobbered. And then some. Palin understands what the Cocktail Party is all about — the status quo — and how it enables the Left to do all the terrible things it does to this country, because the establishment fears putting its own comforts at risk by upsetting the decades-in-practice, good old boys’ rapport that very much exists between the power brokers of the Democrat and Republican parties.

At their highest levels, Democrats and Republicans are often in cahoots, because the elite on either side has a vested interest in protecting their counterparts across the aisle. Governor Palin doesn’t care about any of these people, and would certainly enjoy booting them all out of power, since she’s never benefitted from any of this sycophancy and cronyism. And never will, clearly. The establishment hates her, she hates them, and Governor Palin wouldn’t have it any other way.

By not announcing a presidential bid, as she was clearly expected to do, Governor Palin prevented the Cocktail Party GOP establishment from doing to her what the DNC establishment elites did to Hillary Clinton. Palin knows the Cocktail Party wants Romney to be the man who loses to Obama in 2012, but she refuses to let the establishment give Obama a pass in 2012 like the one he was handed on a silver platter by McCain in 2008. If you remember, McCain essentially gave up his presidential campaign in September of 2008 and refused to allow Governor Palin to go on the offensive the way she wanted to. The Cocktail Party GOP establishment was terrified of being called RAAACIST! for challenging Obama on anything or subjecting him to the direct criticism a presidential campaign normally requires. Governor Palin chafed at these limitations and seemingly formed a personal decision to never allow Obama to have it so easy again. She’s lived rent-free in his nightmares ever since. The media, the Left, and the Cocktail Party GOP establishment are all clearly against her — and Governor Palin knows it. If anything she ever does in her presidential campaign perplexes you, trust the Governor to know what she’s doing, since her personal history is rife with examples of her outsmarting the establishment time and time again. She is, I truly believe, the best political thinker of her generation.

5. CULTIVATE A NETWORK OF INDIVIDUAL, PERSONAL SUPPORT ON THE GROUND BEFORE HIRING THE CONSULTING TEAMS AND MAKING THE CAMPAIGN OFFICIAL.

Most importantly of all, the biggest lesson Governor Palin learned from Hillary Clinton’s 2008 failings was to cultivate a campaign network that’s bottom-up instead of top-down. Though social networking was still relatively new in 2008 (and iPhones were only released in the middle of the campaign), Hillary’s top-tier team really didn’t make any large-scale successful efforts to get regular, individuals engaged in the campaign in a substantive way. There were a lot of big events, fundraisers, rallies, and the like, with the social networking used mainly to keep people informed of where they could go to stand and listen to Hillary speak in person, or maybe do some phonebanking. The campaign was directed by consultants and various experts, many of them longtime Clinton confidants, who decided where and when things should happen and how everything should be run. Very little in terms of ideas or energy was ever really absorbed from on-the-ground supporters and carried to higher levels. Everyone in the big offices believed they knew best, since they elected Bill Clinton to office twice and saw this as merely their third time cooking with the old formula. Governor Palin’s 2012 presidential campaign will be unlike anything that’s come before it, because the energy fueling it really comes from individual, average, Americans who are exicted to see her run for the presidency and are committed to doing everything they can do to help her. Few are waiting for a directive to come down from an official Palin 2012 campaign to tell them what needs to be done. People have been organizing for some time, countering the media’s lies, working their email and Facebook networks to pool together as Palin supporters in their areas. Everything that David Axlerod aggressively astro-turfed and fabricated for Obama in 2008 is happening organically on its own for Governor Palin.

She’s running. Her supporters know it. The media, as always, is clueless. The Cocktail Party GOP establishment is, in a word, stupid. All the while, the momma grizzly sizes up her competition, dedicates her trademarked knowing stare, and readies herself to launch into the campaign on her own terms, with absolutely all the might God gave her. She’s going to win, too, because the woman’s clearly on a mission and has all the right intentions, right when she’s needed the most. It really is her moment. She’s the best hope this country has got. Please help her in any way you possibly can!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; hillary; hillaryclinton; obama; palin; romney; sarahpalin
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To: Brices Crossroads
The media thus had an enormous amount of time to strategize how it was going to attack, malign, berate, and brutalize her through the primaries

Hillary brutalized. LOL!! And tell us what's in her garbage and and emails. Tell us how 'hands off' Chelsea survived being bashed and Hillary the lawsuits. You can't! Hillbuzz are whackjobs - attacking on Palin were DAILY started three years ago and with EVERYTHING and every journalist they had. Non stop 24/7 - so demonic they attacked her baby.

TAKE DOWN THE ESTABLISHMENT ELITE BEFORE THEY EVEN SEE HER ATTACKS COMING.

That's for when she is in office so it certainly is not holding up her announcement.

SARAH learned everything by her OWN experience NOT the cakewalk Hillary had and MB is getting.

ALLOW OTHER CANDIDATES TO BE CALLED "UNELECTABLE", AMONGST OTHER MEDIA MEMES SO SHE CAN BE THE ALTERNATIVE.

And when does the attack on Mitt happen to make that scenario one bit credible? That will not happen - 'It's ALWAYS been about 'anyone but Sarah'!

LET THE MEDIA VET- OR,MORE APT, RIP APART-HER COMPETITORS BEFORE REVEALING HER TRUE INTENTIONS

They've had ample opportunity to rip apart Mitt and Cain - ZILCH so far because it will NOT happen - not designed to happen.

Outstanding summary of the brilliance in Palin's delay in announcing her candidacy.

You MUST be kidding. Outstanding summary of BS on what they want to be seen as 'I got the answer'. If they stopped trashing her one or two years ago - they may be right with one scenario but they NEVER stopped. Did you forget "Media Whore"?

The WORLD awaits the announcement from SARAH so all the 'talking points' being damaged, too polarizing, unelectable - come from the brainless! And those FR parrots are useful only for a laugh.

The thought that it is NOT necessary for Sarah to enter EARLY never crossed their brainless head. That would take at least a half a brain.
51 posted on 08/18/2011 7:51:52 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: hosepipe

According to Bristol Palin’s interview with Sean Hannity back in late June, the whole family can’t wait to help Sarah win.


52 posted on 08/18/2011 7:52:05 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: TexasFreeper2009
BUT I have zero interest in voting for someone who hasn’t proven themselves worthy in the debates.

I'd liken these EARLY debates as the preseason games played in the NFL. We're seeing the initial shakeout of candidates.

Reagan handily replaced Carter in a landslide and Reagan did not announce until approx 12 months before the election.

53 posted on 08/18/2011 7:55:46 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: pburgh01
There has not been one shred of data showing her doing that and that my friend is what patters

No, that isn't what 'patters'. You know why? Because 'data' like that doesn't exist for anyone. It NEVER will exist, because it isn't possible for it to exist. People who demand such things are either deliberately obtuse or idiots who want to chase Skittle crapping unicorns. Whichever you are doesn't matter, since the time for patience with either group is long past.

54 posted on 08/18/2011 7:55:46 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: ProudGOP
She is not running. Rick Perry’s announcement sealed it. Palin and Perry had an understanding that they wouldn’t run against each other.

According to Sarah, Rick Perry told her he was not going to run. If there ever was an "understanding" between them, I would think the fact that Rick broke his word would nullify the whole deal.

55 posted on 08/18/2011 7:57:34 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: pburgh01

If Sarah can’t take him out, who can? Why don’t you tell us?
No, pburgh01, she is the only one who can.
You haven’t seen her campaign yet. What you saw in ‘08 was the ‘Cuda bound and gagged by McCains establishment handlers.
Just hang onto your hat and be prepared to eat your words!


56 posted on 08/18/2011 7:57:43 AM PDT by GlockLady (Right is right even if nobody else is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone else is doing it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
not just jump in a week before New Hampshire next year

Really? Are you really trying to engage in a discussion based on that? REALLY?

57 posted on 08/18/2011 7:58:56 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: pburgh01
Hillbuzz, a gay blogger living in Chicago who was for Hillary Clinton...umm no thanks.

I don't care if he has three eyes and cloven hooves, this is one of the most inciteful political bits that's come down the pike in a long time. Even if he were wrong about Palin's intentions, I don't think anyone hear would dispute his characterization of the press as a bunch of stale, lazy worthly partisan hacks.

58 posted on 08/18/2011 8:00:02 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (HEY UNION MEMBER: INVEST IN YOUR OWN DAMN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A CHANGE!)
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To: GlockLady

He wants someone leading the polls now, which, 9 times out of 10 would be certain death in the general election.


59 posted on 08/18/2011 8:01:32 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I have no problem with her waiting a while longer, but for me personally mid September is the drop dead date for her entering.


I don’t know what the drop dead date is but there are some FEC regs, etc that have to be met I believe.

However we are only just over 5 months away from the actual voting to begin. So time is becoming short for anything more than an I’m in type race.

Sept
Oct
Nov
Dec
Jan


60 posted on 08/18/2011 8:03:03 AM PDT by deport ( In Texas it's hotter than two goats fighting in a jalapeno patch.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

here is what the “article” stated

quote “WAIT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO ENTER THE RACE SO THAT SHE IS NOT ATTACKED AS THE FRONTRUNNER OUT OF THE GATE”

THAT, is what I was responding to.

It’s that simple, don’t try to read anything else into it.


61 posted on 08/18/2011 8:04:27 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Don’t read any more into it.”

Yeah, right.

Hey,Karl... is that you?


62 posted on 08/18/2011 8:05:02 AM PDT by ngat
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To: onyx

NOPE. Obama was barely on the radar, then when kennedy endorsed it was a firestorm against Hilary and then obama was put into the media affirmative action program.


63 posted on 08/18/2011 8:07:43 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: ngat

lol

I give up!

Your right! Palin is perfect! And I hope she waits till the day before the first votes are cast in February to enter!

/s


64 posted on 08/18/2011 8:08:39 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Go read the works of Sun Tsu. I bet Sarah has.

I suspect Sarah has Sun Tsu tattooed on her brain.

65 posted on 08/18/2011 8:09:14 AM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: jla

You sound like a Lefty, catagorizing and criticizing folk out of hand.


66 posted on 08/18/2011 8:11:08 AM PDT by GlockLady (Right is right even if nobody else is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone else is doing it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Well, then thanks for being so generous about it. You could have said something of equal brilliance like:

"If she waits until November 1st 2012 to get in, and thinks she'll get my vote without earning it..."

While INFORMED ADULTS know that 'as long as possible' couldn't possibly mean two weeks before New Hampshire or November 1st 2012, we all understand your vantage point now. Thanks for clarifying.

67 posted on 08/18/2011 8:11:30 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: ProudGOP

I don’t see where that is in any way true. Sarah was quite clear that perry blindsided her with his candidacy saying he had stated adamantly for 4 months that he was not running. She said she was disappointed that he had not kept his word, but she was glad he was in the race and it would make no difference in her personal decision.
rick perry is too quick on the trigger and he is going to burn himself out.
Nobody has seemed to notice that perry is trying to copy her style, but he comes off as arrogant and belligerant, the exact opposite of Palin.


68 posted on 08/18/2011 8:11:58 AM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

good summation, I believe she, Palin, is strong enough to run as independent and win in today’s climate. Jackson Delano Maybolt


69 posted on 08/18/2011 8:14:04 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: onyx
Our primaries will be robust with a field of candidates to please almost everyone. GO SARAH!

Exactly right.....also Looks like Christy, Ryan, Trump, Bolton, and more are simply waiting for their moment...either to step up or say they are not.

Since Reagan apparently didn't step up til 'November'...there is STILL plenty of time for all to determine their hour.

70 posted on 08/18/2011 8:16:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: Jess79

“According to Sarah, Rick Perry told her he was not going to run. If there ever was an “understanding” between them, I would think the fact that Rick broke his word would nullify the whole deal.”

Two more things about this Perry run most voters nationwide are not really aware of

1. The whole time Rick Perry was running for Governor, throughout the primary and general elections, he was strongly denying that he would run for president in 2012.

2. Rick Perry is running for president from the safety of his present office. He has not resigned to make this run, he gives up nothing to make this run. He remains governor through 2014 if he does not win. (not that this relatively recent political development seems to bother the press, or voters anymore)


71 posted on 08/18/2011 8:18:36 AM PDT by ngat
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To: TexasFreeper2009

re: ‘as long as possible to me means - waiting until after all the debates are over and people are about to actually start voting in the primaries. That is unacceptable to me.’

To Sarah ‘as long as possible’ means:
Palin has said several times that practically and logistically she would need to announce her decision in Aug or Sept. Evan last winter she said it would probably be late summer. She also said she realized it wouldn’t be fair to her supporters to wait any longer.


72 posted on 08/18/2011 8:19:35 AM PDT by GlockLady (Right is right even if nobody else is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone else is doing it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
But the article said.. “WAIT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO ENTER THE RACE” as long as possible to me means - waiting until after all the debates are over and people are about to actually start voting in the primaries. That is unacceptable to me.

There are statutory deadlines and requirements for getting on the primary ballots that would preclude the scenario you claim to fear.

73 posted on 08/18/2011 8:20:02 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: GlockLady

quote “To Sarah ‘as long as possible’ means:
Palin has said several times that practically and logistically she would need to announce her decision in Aug or Sept. Evan last winter she said it would probably be late summer. She also said she realized it wouldn’t be fair to her supporters to wait any longer.”

Then I am in 100% in agreement with Palin then.


74 posted on 08/18/2011 8:21:25 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: jla

Aren’t you a member of the David Frum ‘Sissyfits About Palin’ wing of the Republican party?


75 posted on 08/18/2011 8:21:33 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: ProudGOP
She is not running. Rick Perry’s announcement sealed it. Palin and Perry had an understanding that they wouldn’t run against each other.
Maybe Perry picks her for veep though.

Huh?

I am always amazed by some of the outlandish comments posted here that are supposed to pass as facts.

Rick Perry is the one who said he was not running, then changed his mind!

Governor Palin has never said that she would base her decision on whether Governor Perry ran or not! In fact, quite the polar opposite. She told Sean Hannity in Iowa on Hannity's National TV program, that she welcomed Perry into the race, but that his entry would have nothing to do with her decision.

I will also add, that in *Going Rogue*, she made it clear that she will never accept another VP spot.

76 posted on 08/18/2011 8:21:56 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: caww

“also Looks like Christy, Ryan, Trump, Bolton, and more are simply waiting for their moment...either to step up or say they are not.”

Trump? He was in, then out, now maybe back in... perhaps Huckabee and Daniels will jump back in too.


77 posted on 08/18/2011 8:24:42 AM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat
The whole time Rick Perry was running for Governor, throughout the primary and general elections, he was strongly denying that he would run for president in 2012.

Interesting. So Rick Perry is a habitual lier.

78 posted on 08/18/2011 8:24:58 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: MestaMachine

Sarah wasn’t any such thing. She took a swipe at his entering the race after months of adament denials. If anything, she baited him into the race by offering unsolicited praise for a possible Perry candidacy back in June. She was hardly ‘blindsided’.


79 posted on 08/18/2011 8:27:23 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
BUT I have zero interest in voting for someone who hasn’t proven themselves worthy in the debates.

Puh-leeze!

We don't have debates, we have joint press conferences.

The only debating that is done is between a candidate and the commie moderator.

80 posted on 08/18/2011 8:32:13 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: ngat

It’s great watching the horses who stepped out of the gate and those who are not yet settled in the gate yet.

It’s a good show in the face of the Demorats.....they have to determine who they are going to spend their revenues against....with so many in the running... ‘they have to wait’ or exhaust too much money on what would be a dead horse.

This is the enjoyable time of the election IMO and a show that is both exciting and interesting.


81 posted on 08/18/2011 8:35:28 AM PDT by caww
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To: Jess79

“Interesting. So Rick Perry is a habitual lier.”

No. In politics it’s called changing your mind. Or, circumstances have changed since then, and you have the change to keep up with the changing circumstances.

You just keep in mind that politics is sort of a game with its own unwritten set of rules, then you don’t have to get disappointed when your “leader” changes position, or runs for a higher office when he led you to beleive something else, and get all upset and call them a “lier”


82 posted on 08/18/2011 8:36:22 AM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat
Trump? He was in, then out, now maybe back in... perhaps Huckabee and Daniels will jump back in too.

Not as outlandish as you might think. Trump was on Hannity's radio show just yesterday talking, once again, about how he will run as an independent if the Republicans don't chose the "right candidate." I have no idea what his qualifications are for the "right candidate." I wish Sean would stop giving him a platform. He seems to be hell-bent on giving us a Ross Perot Redux. I don't trust the guy. When Sean tried to point out that Trump would split the Republican vote and give the election to Obama, Trump fobbed him off with the opinion he would take more votes from Obama and then changed the subject to talk about infrastructure. INFRASTRUCTURE!?! Sound familiar? Who else uses infrastructure as one of his talking points?

83 posted on 08/18/2011 8:36:22 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Blindsided was MY term. Get a grip. And she WAS blindsided. Blindsided means expecting someone to keep their word, trusting them, and wham. Blindsided. Get it?
So far two of her *trusted friends* have stabbed her in the back. I think she will be a lot more careful from here on.


84 posted on 08/18/2011 8:39:29 AM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: CMAC51

that’s a good point! I wonder when those deadlines are?


85 posted on 08/18/2011 8:39:33 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Brices Crossroads; All
Those are good lessons to learn from Hillary's campaign. You can't emphasize the, "RAACIST! RAACIST, RAACIST, RAAACIST! For asking anything at all about Obama or his record," point enough.

I'm angry at misogyny I hear from "conservative" talkers who are floating Christie or soft on Romney and beat the "unelectable" drum on Palin, Bachmann from the start. They are bastards.

I commented this week or last that I think Palin's carefully reading the field.

I think she'll get in if Perry looks like he can't go the distance whether it's because of national press attacks, the establishment & Bush team, anti-TX/Bush 3.0 feelings or candidate self-destruction.

I wish Hillary had been the Dem nominee. Bad as the Clintons were the first time around, we'd be better off than under Obama.

86 posted on 08/18/2011 8:41:22 AM PDT by newzjunkey (12yo's consent law, AB499 (Atkins), passed the CA Asm 50-25, Sen vote next.)
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To: Brices Crossroads
At their highest levels, Democrats and Republicans are often in cahoots, because the elite on either side has a vested interest in protecting their counterparts across the aisle. Governor Palin doesn’t care about any of these people

This in itself is good enough for me.

87 posted on 08/18/2011 8:43:21 AM PDT by Digger (T)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

AND if she talked about perry at all, it was because someone asked her about it. It was NOT unsolicited. That is ridiculous.


88 posted on 08/18/2011 8:45:28 AM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
It's a long article but you clearly missed this line:

"Before she emerges as an official candidate either later this month or in early September, Governor Palin will have… "

89 posted on 08/18/2011 8:45:28 AM PDT by newzjunkey (12yo's consent law, AB499 (Atkins), passed the CA Asm 50-25, Sen vote next.)
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To: newzjunkey

I think you are right, but there is something else about hillary. If bill clinton had actually wanted her to win, she would have. HE subtley sabataged her campaign from day one.


90 posted on 08/18/2011 8:54:21 AM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
...if she thinks she can wait till the middle of next year after all the debates are done (which is what this article implied)...

Say what??! Where exactly does this article imply that she's going to wait until the middle of next year?

...I have a problem with her possibly waiting until after all the debates are over and entering right before the actual primaries...

Again, please show me where the article says this - or even implies this. Otherwise, I think you've got a nice couple of strawmen in your post.

91 posted on 08/18/2011 8:57:49 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Great read!

“Anyone But Obama” needs to become “Nobody But Palin!”

I’m in.


92 posted on 08/18/2011 8:59:56 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: caww

Agree, re: “Our primaries will be robust with a field of candidates to please almost everyone. GO SARAH!
Exactly right.....also Looks like Christy, Ryan, Trump, Bolton, and more are simply waiting for their moment...either to step up or say they are not.”

Looks to me like they are waiting on Sarah’s decision.


93 posted on 08/18/2011 9:00:34 AM PDT by GlockLady (Right is right even if nobody else is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone else is doing it.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The "she's not running" brigade are deeply saddened.

But my spirit is bouyed. I am elated. I rejoice. My cup reacheth the point where it fairly runneth over.

I plan to take a camera into the voting booth with me to record the historic moment.

I will gladly pay my share in taxes to have the Secret Service guard "the 'other' one," encamped somewhere on the shores of Lake Michigan, as he sits and accumulates dust. May posterity regard "him" only as a dire warning.

94 posted on 08/18/2011 9:01:57 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: Jess79

Good points. Who thinks anything that comes out of the guy’s mouth is anything but a manipulation?


95 posted on 08/18/2011 9:02:26 AM PDT by ngat
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To: TexasFreeper2009
...“WAIT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO ENTER THE RACE” as long as possible to me means - waiting until after all the debates are over and people are about to actually start voting in the primaries.

It may mean that to you, but not to anyone else. To wait that long would be just about the stupidest thing for a candidate to do. But thanks for getting inside Palin's mind, and enlightening us all with what WAIT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE actually means to her.

96 posted on 08/18/2011 9:04:30 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Then I am in 100% in agreement with Palin then.”

Good. I thought you would because you seem like a reasonable person. I get the impression, though, that if Sarah had her druthers, she’d druther wait as long as possible. She knows that once the bell rings, it is off to the races and her family’s life will never be the same again. Just look what has happened since 08 and she hasn’t even been office. After this, for one thing, they will be more confined and required to have Secret Service from now on.


97 posted on 08/18/2011 9:09:31 AM PDT by GlockLady (Right is right even if nobody else is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone else is doing it.)
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To: MestaMachine

It would be nice if you were to inform yourself and ‘get a grip’ on the facts.

http://gop12.thehill.com/2011/05/palin-plugs-perry-i-really-like-him.html

But I do apologize for my error. It was May, not June.


98 posted on 08/18/2011 9:10:46 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: GlockLady
Looks to me like they are waiting on Sarah’s decision.

LOL...oh that too! She will change the entire field if she declares.

99 posted on 08/18/2011 9:11:19 AM PDT by caww
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To: TexasFreeper2009

As she has said, “A lot of contemplation gooes in to such an life changing decision”. Think of the responsibility and criticism she will shoulder as she takes on undoing the TRANSFORMANTION begins the RESTORATION of our country.


100 posted on 08/18/2011 9:12:33 AM PDT by GlockLady (Right is right even if nobody else is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone else is doing it.)
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