Skip to comments.5 Lessons Governor Sarah Palin learned from Hillary Clinton’s failed 2008 presidential campaign
Posted on 08/18/2011 6:33:41 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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I support Palin and want her to run... BUT I have zero interest in voting for someone who hasn’t proven themselves worthy in the debates.
I wanted Palin to run so that should could prove the media wrong by performing well against the others in the primaries, but if she just thinks she can jump in at the last minute and get my vote without actually earning it, she’s got another thing coming.
They are actually helping Sarah Palin without realizing it.
Yep, don’t shoot until you see the whites of their eyes. The current candidates are just cannon fodder for the left and the media, a distraction to keep them busy until the heavy hitters come out.
..and don’t ever, ever, EVER let your fitness routine slide
Hillary’s creepy. Sarah has nothing to learn from her...
Kevin Dujan gets it. He does.
Sarah is no dope. She did indeed learn from Hillary’s mistakes. And though the article doesn’t mention it, I believe Mrs. Palin learned from Ronald Reagan too. If you recall, Reagan announced his candidacy in NOVEMBER, 1979.
Why should she debate with (fill in the blank) candidates who will be a distant memory also-ran by next March?
Are you under the impression that there are not going to be any more debates?
The homosexuals at Hillbuzz are highly mistaken if they think Governor Palin learned from Hillary, but their points are well taken.
Governor Palin is a million times smarter and more politically savvy than Hillary can ever hope to be. For example, Palin’s bus tour was not an idiot *listening tour* and Palin holds her plans close whereas Hillary surrounded herself with Bill’s thug pals.
Governor Palin is honest and I ask everyone here and also in the news media, how many e-mails of Hillary’s have news media published so the public could read?
Nothing to learn?
Ahh, grasshopper. Go read the works of Sun Tsu. I bet Sarah has.
Which debates? The debating schedule for candidates generally begins in January of the year of the election, because that is about the time the Iowa campaign kicks into full gear. They have a debate generally 1 week or so before the Iowa caucus. That is when the debates have traditionally started.
She was in one in 2008 against Biden.
He’s one of the sharpest analysts out there, which is why his blog is popular.
Actually there’s loads of info showing that Palin could be Barry in the general. It starts with repeated polls of them going head-to-head: Barry consistently fails to reach 50%, which is required of an incumbent to win. Given that the undecided tend to break 4-to-1 for the challenger, most such polls show them in a dead heat—before she’s even declared.
But more important than the overall popular vote is how the two do in swing states. Throughout the Rust Belt, Palin tends to poll very well and Barry very poorly.
Further, a lot of elections are driven by turnout, both among the base and among supporters in the thin-voting moderate/independent band. In both cases Palin voters are highly motivated and Barry voters are not.
She’s in a great position against the little commie.
I havent watched any of those “debates” because I just dont care at this point.
Which person from them has really got long-term momentum?
Herman Cain? Remember him? He got his wind from a debate last winter, now he is nowhere to be seen.
The 2012 election is 14.5 months away.
Ronald Reagan let the clock tick down to 12 months.
CFR-Rick Perry just got in last week.
Did CFR-Rick get in at the "last minute?"
Just because the cable news networks need stories to cover does not mean that a candidate has to declare three years ahead of time.
Are you saying that there is no time left for debates, with 14.5 months to go?
PS - She is declaring on September 3rd. Is that "the last minute?"
Isn’t Hillbuzz a group of homosexuals who had previously supported the presidential run of Hillary Clinton? (And you think they’re “brilliant”?)
I have no problem with her waiting this long, or even a little longer. I have a problem with her possibly waiting until after all the debates are over and entering right before the actual primaries.
It seems logical..... let the field narrow with the heavy weights like Perry and Romney..... then when the real debates are set it will be the better minds forefront. I will include Ron Paul in this as I keep going back to last election and listening to his points... many came true and he was more spot on than McCain and Obama ever where...
I watched her interview with Sean Hannity last Friday night. She said she would announce her intentions in September. I think you will get to see her in plenty of debates.
Kevin Dujan: At their highest levels, Democrats and Republicans are often in cahoots, because the elite on either side has a vested interest in protecting their counterparts across the aisle. Governor Palin doesnt care about any of these people, and would certainly enjoy booting them all out of power, since shes never benefitted from any of this sycophancy and cronyism. And never will, clearly. The establishment hates her, she hates them, and Governor Palin wouldnt have it any other way.
A few others here are starting to realize it is the true criteria for a proper candidate.
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TLI to Covert Operative:
We need a outsider like Palin who has a reputation of putting people of her own party in jail.
TA-DA! The winner!
That is exactly what this nation needs as Congress and the fed-gov is packed with corruption and un-prosecuted active criminal activity.
I do not see ANY of the other candidates getting into office and starting investigations on both "sides."
Gov. Palin would be the only one to even pose that threat.
But the article said.. “WAIT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO ENTER THE RACE” as long as possible to me means - waiting until after all the debates are over and people are about to actually start voting in the primaries. That is unacceptable to me.
YES SHE WAS AND SHE KICKED HIS BUTT. eVERYBODY KNOWS HOW BRILLIANT JOE BIDEN IS.
It's you who lacks reading comprehension!
Brices Crossroads wrote: Outstanding summary of the brilliance in Palin's delay in announcing her candidacy.
Ronald Reagan became an announced candidate in the middle of November 1979.
You're an idiot.
You just make bullshit scenarios up and say "she better not do that."
I bet you make everybody around you a nervous wreck with all you bullshit pondering.
I totally disagree with this statement..”The media thus had an enormous amount of time to strategize how it was going to attack, malign, berate, and brutalize her through the primaries to hand the nomination, and presidency, to Obama instead.”
Hilary was the media darling, no media attacks or hard questions whatsoever, but that changed over night when Edward Kennedy backed Obama. Suddenly Hilary was death. It was like watching FR take over the NYtimes and WAPO (which no doubt delighted me) . I could not believe the attacks that suddenly came out. His assessment is totally wrong, Obama was a no where candidate until that moment.
Yes, but when did the primaries start and when were the debates?
The start date means nothing by itself, it’s only important how far ahead of the primaries and the debates that matter. Primaries have been moved up further and further over the years, and thus have the debates.
My only point is that I want to see her earn my and everyone elses vote, not just jump in a week before New Hampshire next year, without being tested, and without getting the opportunity to prove the media wrong and hone her debate skills, ect.
I have no problem with her waiting a while longer, but for me personally mid September is the drop dead date for her entering.
Besides, she loves her family and summer is such a great time to spend with them.
Another sign she is running, this is a biggy, is she did not do a second season with TLC on Alaska. An offer was made, she flatly turned it down. Anyone with any brains should have recognized this.
That was the reason I knew Trump was just mouthing...he did another season with his show.
I was responding to the article.
The article said she would “wait as long as possible” ...
well, technically “as long as possible” would be right before the primaries on February 6 2012.
I have a problem if she wait till February 1st of next year is what I am saying.
She’s going to be in a good three months before the first caucus or primary. That’s plenty of debates.
And she’ll be the only candidate we have who has experience—and success—in a one-on-one national general election debate.
Also, she’s always been a good debater. There’s a great video on the net of a debate she was in in her race for governor.
I think you’re half wrong about that. Obama won the early primaries which put him insurmountably ahead of Hillary, who came on strong at the end.
The press was enthralled with the very idea of the first black president much more than with the first female president. Hillary was thought to be both an appendix of Bill and the boss of Bill and too independent for much of the press.
“I wanted Palin to run so that should could prove the media wrong by performing well against the others in the primaries, but...”
Words of a typical concern troll.
“...if she just thinks she can jump in at the last minute and get my vote without actually earning it, shes got another think coming.”
LOL. methinks texasfreeper09 thinks excessively highly of what he/she thinks.
I remember watching Sarah in debates 4 years ago. She’s been debating CONSTANTLY since then on Greta, FB, other media outlets. Besides, the debates are crap, anyway. They’d be asking her lame questions about Bristol’s love life, or some other stupid things rather then focus on the issues at hand. Or, like Bachmann, ask if she submits to her husband.
The debate I want to see is Sarah as our nominee against Obama. Sweet!
I LOVE Palin and have wanted her to enter the race for YEARS.
I have no idea why someone can’t make a simple statement without everyone jumping on them.
I WANT her to enter.
I dont mind her waiting a LITTLE longer.
I DONT WANT her to wait till January of 2012, it’s that simple. Don’t read any more into it.
If shes smart (and she is) she should wait for the girls to grow up before running..
THEY would HATE her running.. as well as Track and probably Todd..
Beside that she really does not NEED to be President..
She already has a wonderful life.. and Todd is independent not republican anyway..
She is doing JUST fine as she is..
Bachmann would make just as fine a President as she would...
2020 will be just soon enough.. or even 2016 if need be..
OR as Veep for Bachmann in 2016.. which would be better..
LOL. I am free at last. Our wonderful 3rd Qrt FReepathon has meet our goal! FReepers are the absolute best! FReepers always come through, so we’re on the air through this quarter!
Now I can devote my time here to Sarah Palin threads and at just the right time! I’m certain she’s running so this is truly an exciting time!
Our primaries will be robust with a field of candidates to please almost everyone. GO SARAH!
She is not running. Rick Perry’s announcement sealed it. Palin and Perry had an understanding that they wouldn’t run against each other.
Maybe Perry picks her for veep though.
“I’m going to vote for Osama because Sarah Palin has only been in the spotlight and under the microscope for five years. That’s not enough information for me.”
Because there wouldn't be enough time for what, exactly?
It is impractical for her to wait that long, but the idea that anything substantive would be neglected if she did is idiotic.
I repeat: Just because cable news channels need things to report on does not mean that candidates should construct campaign schedules for their benefit.
If you want state-controlled media in control, Ubama will be the next president.
$20.12 headed her way as soon as she says she’s running. Let that trickle down your leg Chris, or shove it up your behind.
There will be many debates where she can ‘prove’ herself to you. The flippin election is almost a year and a half away, for Pitty’s sake.