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5 Lessons Governor Sarah Palin learned from Hillary Clinton’s failed 2008 presidential campaign
Hillbuzz ^ | 08/18/2011 | Kevin Dujan

Posted on 08/18/2011 6:33:41 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads

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Outstanding summary of the brilliance in Palin's delay in announcing her candidacy.
1 posted on 08/18/2011 6:33:52 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads
The "she's not running" brigade are deeply saddened.
2 posted on 08/18/2011 6:38:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Profit" is a measure of how efficiently an entity utilizes the raw materials at its command.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

I support Palin and want her to run... BUT I have zero interest in voting for someone who hasn’t proven themselves worthy in the debates.

I wanted Palin to run so that should could prove the media wrong by performing well against the others in the primaries, but if she just thinks she can jump in at the last minute and get my vote without actually earning it, she’s got another thing coming.


3 posted on 08/18/2011 6:41:16 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Hillbuzz, a gay blogger living in Chicago who was for Hillary Clinton...umm no thanks. I have to hand it to the little guy he carved out a unique niche blog. He has all valid points except one thing, she will not beat Obongo in the general. There has not been one shred of data showing her doing that, and that my friend is what patters not how vociferous her supporters are or the purity of her Conservative message. I voted for Reagan, I was around when he campaigned, I heard him speak LIVE and Sarah Palin is no Reagan. She needs to stay on the sidelines, snipe form the tall grass and help get Obama out of the White House, that is her calling. Her running is Barry Goldwater redux.
4 posted on 08/18/2011 6:41:24 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The "she's not running" brigade

They are actually helping Sarah Palin without realizing it.

5 posted on 08/18/2011 6:43:16 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (Write In Sarah Palin)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Yep, don’t shoot until you see the whites of their eyes. The current candidates are just cannon fodder for the left and the media, a distraction to keep them busy until the heavy hitters come out.


6 posted on 08/18/2011 6:44:09 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Brices Crossroads; Clyde5445; RedMDer; trisham; Bigtigermike; Lakeshark; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
GAME ON!


Sarah Palin's Ping List!


7 posted on 08/18/2011 6:48:41 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

..and don’t ever, ever, EVER let your fitness routine slide


8 posted on 08/18/2011 6:48:56 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Brices Crossroads

Hillary’s creepy. Sarah has nothing to learn from her...


9 posted on 08/18/2011 6:50:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Kevin Dujan gets it. He does.

Sarah is no dope. She did indeed learn from Hillary’s mistakes. And though the article doesn’t mention it, I believe Mrs. Palin learned from Ronald Reagan too. If you recall, Reagan announced his candidacy in NOVEMBER, 1979.


10 posted on 08/18/2011 6:54:59 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Concern Troll?


11 posted on 08/18/2011 6:55:44 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Why should she debate with (fill in the blank) candidates who will be a distant memory also-ran by next March?


12 posted on 08/18/2011 6:57:11 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Are you under the impression that there are not going to be any more debates?


13 posted on 08/18/2011 6:59:07 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: Brices Crossroads

The homosexuals at Hillbuzz are highly mistaken if they think Governor Palin learned from Hillary, but their points are well taken.

Governor Palin is a million times smarter and more politically savvy than Hillary can ever hope to be. For example, Palin’s bus tour was not an idiot *listening tour* and Palin holds her plans close whereas Hillary surrounded herself with Bill’s thug pals.

Governor Palin is honest and I ask everyone here and also in the news media, how many e-mails of Hillary’s have news media published so the public could read?


14 posted on 08/18/2011 6:59:31 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: GOPJ

Nothing to learn?

Ahh, grasshopper. Go read the works of Sun Tsu. I bet Sarah has.


15 posted on 08/18/2011 6:59:31 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
someone who hasn’t proven themselves worthy in the debates.

Which debates? The debating schedule for candidates generally begins in January of the year of the election, because that is about the time the Iowa campaign kicks into full gear. They have a debate generally 1 week or so before the Iowa caucus. That is when the debates have traditionally started.

16 posted on 08/18/2011 6:59:31 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Brices Crossroads

Excellent assessment!


17 posted on 08/18/2011 7:00:06 AM PDT by caprock
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To: TexasFreeper2009

She was in one in 2008 against Biden.


18 posted on 08/18/2011 7:02:09 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: pburgh01

He’s one of the sharpest analysts out there, which is why his blog is popular.

Actually there’s loads of info showing that Palin could be Barry in the general. It starts with repeated polls of them going head-to-head: Barry consistently fails to reach 50%, which is required of an incumbent to win. Given that the undecided tend to break 4-to-1 for the challenger, most such polls show them in a dead heat—before she’s even declared.

But more important than the overall popular vote is how the two do in swing states. Throughout the Rust Belt, Palin tends to poll very well and Barry very poorly.

Further, a lot of elections are driven by turnout, both among the base and among supporters in the thin-voting moderate/independent band. In both cases Palin voters are highly motivated and Barry voters are not.

She’s in a great position against the little commie.


19 posted on 08/18/2011 7:02:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: factoryrat

Exactly!

I havent watched any of those “debates” because I just dont care at this point.

Which person from them has really got long-term momentum?

Herman Cain? Remember him? He got his wind from a debate last winter, now he is nowhere to be seen.


20 posted on 08/18/2011 7:04:21 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I wanted Palin to run so that should could prove the media wrong by performing well against the others in the primaries, but if she just thinks she can jump in at the last minute and get my vote without actually earning it, she’s got another thing coming.

Last minute?

The 2012 election is 14.5 months away.

Ronald Reagan let the clock tick down to 12 months.

CFR-Rick Perry just got in last week.

Did CFR-Rick get in at the "last minute?"

Just because the cable news networks need stories to cover does not mean that a candidate has to declare three years ahead of time.

Are you saying that there is no time left for debates, with 14.5 months to go?

PS - She is declaring on September 3rd. Is that "the last minute?"

21 posted on 08/18/2011 7:04:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Profit" is a measure of how efficiently an entity utilizes the raw materials at its command.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Isn’t Hillbuzz a group of homosexuals who had previously supported the presidential run of Hillary Clinton? (And you think they’re “brilliant”?)


22 posted on 08/18/2011 7:05:37 AM PDT by jla
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If she gets in then, then fine. but if she thinks she can wait till the middle of next year after all the debates are done (which is what this article implied) then no, I don't think that's ok.

I have no problem with her waiting this long, or even a little longer. I have a problem with her possibly waiting until after all the debates are over and entering right before the actual primaries.

23 posted on 08/18/2011 7:07:12 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It seems logical..... let the field narrow with the heavy weights like Perry and Romney..... then when the real debates are set it will be the better minds forefront. I will include Ron Paul in this as I keep going back to last election and listening to his points... many came true and he was more spot on than McCain and Obama ever where...


24 posted on 08/18/2011 7:08:36 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I watched her interview with Sean Hannity last Friday night. She said she would announce her intentions in September. I think you will get to see her in plenty of debates.


25 posted on 08/18/2011 7:08:58 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: Brices Crossroads
Despite the source, that is exactly the case and exactly what is needed. He got it right.

Kevin Dujan: At their highest levels, Democrats and Republicans are often in cahoots, because the elite on either side has a vested interest in protecting their counterparts across the aisle. Governor Palin doesn’t care about any of these people, and would certainly enjoy booting them all out of power, since she’s never benefitted from any of this sycophancy and cronyism. And never will, clearly. The establishment hates her, she hates them, and Governor Palin wouldn’t have it any other way.

A few others here are starting to realize it is the true criteria for a proper candidate.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/2764781/posts?page=35#35

8/17/2011 10:36:42 AM · 35 of 51
TLI to Covert Operative:

We need a outsider like Palin who has a reputation of putting people of her own party in jail.

TA-DA! The winner!

That is exactly what this nation needs as Congress and the fed-gov is packed with corruption and un-prosecuted active criminal activity.

I do not see ANY of the other candidates getting into office and starting investigations on both "sides."

Gov. Palin would be the only one to even pose that threat.

.

26 posted on 08/18/2011 7:09:50 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Jess79
Like I just said, this September, I have no problem with.

But the article said.. “WAIT AS LONG AS POSSIBLE TO ENTER THE RACE” as long as possible to me means - waiting until after all the debates are over and people are about to actually start voting in the primaries. That is unacceptable to me.

27 posted on 08/18/2011 7:11:44 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: VanDeKoik

YES SHE WAS AND SHE KICKED HIS BUTT. eVERYBODY KNOWS HOW BRILLIANT JOE BIDEN IS.


28 posted on 08/18/2011 7:13:16 AM PDT by papageo
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To: jla; Brices Crossroads
Isn’t Hillbuzz a group of homosexuals who had previously supported the presidential run of Hillary Clinton? (And you think they’re “brilliant”?)

It's you who lacks reading comprehension!

Brices Crossroads wrote: Outstanding summary of the brilliance in Palin's delay in announcing her candidacy.

DUH

29 posted on 08/18/2011 7:15:48 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Ronald Reagan became an announced candidate in the middle of November 1979.


30 posted on 08/18/2011 7:16:04 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TexasFreeper2009
If she gets in then, then fine. but if she thinks she can wait till the middle of next year after all the debates are done (which is what this article implied) then no, I don't think that's ok.

You're an idiot.

You just make bullshit scenarios up and say "she better not do that."

I bet you make everybody around you a nervous wreck with all you bullshit pondering.

31 posted on 08/18/2011 7:18:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Profit" is a measure of how efficiently an entity utilizes the raw materials at its command.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

I totally disagree with this statement..”The media thus had an enormous amount of time to strategize how it was going to attack, malign, berate, and brutalize her through the primaries…to hand the nomination, and presidency, to Obama instead.”

Hilary was the media darling, no media attacks or hard questions whatsoever, but that changed over night when Edward Kennedy backed Obama. Suddenly Hilary was death. It was like watching FR take over the NYtimes and WAPO (which no doubt delighted me) . I could not believe the attacks that suddenly came out. His assessment is totally wrong, Obama was a no where candidate until that moment.


32 posted on 08/18/2011 7:19:02 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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Yes, but when did the primaries start and when were the debates?

The start date means nothing by itself, it’s only important how far ahead of the primaries and the debates that matter. Primaries have been moved up further and further over the years, and thus have the debates.

My only point is that I want to see her earn my and everyone elses vote, not just jump in a week before New Hampshire next year, without being tested, and without getting the opportunity to prove the media wrong and hone her debate skills, ect.

I have no problem with her waiting a while longer, but for me personally mid September is the drop dead date for her entering.


33 posted on 08/18/2011 7:19:33 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Brices Crossroads
I think one of her reasons is how much a campaign cost. She isn't attached to the deep pockets several of the others are.

Besides, she loves her family and summer is such a great time to spend with them.

Another sign she is running, this is a biggy, is she did not do a second season with TLC on Alaska. An offer was made, she flatly turned it down. Anyone with any brains should have recognized this.

That was the reason I knew Trump was just mouthing...he did another season with his show.

34 posted on 08/18/2011 7:20:46 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I was responding to the article.

The article said she would “wait as long as possible” ...

well, technically “as long as possible” would be right before the primaries on February 6 2012.

I have a problem if she wait till February 1st of next year is what I am saying.


35 posted on 08/18/2011 7:23:00 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
....but if she just thinks she can jump in at the last minute and get my vote without actually earning it, she’s got another thing coming.

I'm sure you didn't vote for O in 2008 so that only leaves McCain. Did he "earn" your vote?

Pray that Palin runs and gets elected.
36 posted on 08/18/2011 7:23:10 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: TexasFreeper2009

She’s going to be in a good three months before the first caucus or primary. That’s plenty of debates.

And she’ll be the only candidate we have who has experience—and success—in a one-on-one national general election debate.

Also, she’s always been a good debater. There’s a great video on the net of a debate she was in in her race for governor.


37 posted on 08/18/2011 7:23:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Walkingfeather

I think you’re half wrong about that. Obama won the early primaries which put him insurmountably ahead of Hillary, who came on strong at the end.

The press was enthralled with the very idea of the first black president much more than with the first female president. Hillary was thought to be both an appendix of Bill and the boss of Bill and too independent for much of the press.


38 posted on 08/18/2011 7:25:08 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“I wanted Palin to run so that should could prove the media wrong by performing well against the others in the primaries, but...”

Words of a typical concern troll.

“...if she just thinks she can jump in at the last minute and get my vote without actually earning it, she’s got another think coming.”

LOL. methinks texasfreeper09 thinks excessively highly of what he/she thinks.


39 posted on 08/18/2011 7:31:52 AM PDT by ngat
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I remember watching Sarah in debates 4 years ago. She’s been debating CONSTANTLY since then on Greta, FB, other media outlets. Besides, the debates are crap, anyway. They’d be asking her lame questions about Bristol’s love life, or some other stupid things rather then focus on the issues at hand. Or, like Bachmann, ask if she submits to her husband.

The debate I want to see is Sarah as our nominee against Obama. Sweet!


40 posted on 08/18/2011 7:33:29 AM PDT by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: onyx
Woke up a little feisty today, didn't ‘cha?
41 posted on 08/18/2011 7:33:36 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: ngat

I LOVE Palin and have wanted her to enter the race for YEARS.

I have no idea why someone can’t make a simple statement without everyone jumping on them.

I WANT her to enter.
I dont mind her waiting a LITTLE longer.

I DONT WANT her to wait till January of 2012, it’s that simple. Don’t read any more into it.

Geeez.


42 posted on 08/18/2011 7:34:48 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Brices Crossroads

If shes smart (and she is) she should wait for the girls to grow up before running..
THEY would HATE her running.. as well as Track and probably Todd..
Beside that she really does not NEED to be President..

She already has a wonderful life.. and Todd is independent not republican anyway..
She is doing JUST fine as she is..

Bachmann would make just as fine a President as she would...
2020 will be just soon enough.. or even 2016 if need be..
OR as Veep for Bachmann in 2016.. which would be better..


43 posted on 08/18/2011 7:39:29 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

LOL. I am free at last. Our wonderful 3rd Qrt FReepathon has meet our goal! FReepers are the absolute best! FReepers always come through, so we’re on the air through this quarter!

Now I can devote my time here to Sarah Palin threads and at just the right time! I’m certain she’s running so this is truly an exciting time!

Our primaries will be robust with a field of candidates to please almost everyone. GO SARAH!


44 posted on 08/18/2011 7:40:07 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

She is not running. Rick Perry’s announcement sealed it. Palin and Perry had an understanding that they wouldn’t run against each other.

Maybe Perry picks her for veep though.


45 posted on 08/18/2011 7:40:29 AM PDT by ProudGOP
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To: ngat

hehe

“I’m going to vote for Osama because Sarah Palin has only been in the spotlight and under the microscope for five years. That’s not enough information for me.”


46 posted on 08/18/2011 7:40:47 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I have a problem if she wait till February 1st of next year is what I am saying.

Why?

Because there wouldn't be enough time for what, exactly?

It is impractical for her to wait that long, but the idea that anything substantive would be neglected if she did is idiotic.

I repeat: Just because cable news channels need things to report on does not mean that candidates should construct campaign schedules for their benefit.

If you want state-controlled media in control, Ubama will be the next president.

47 posted on 08/18/2011 7:40:48 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Profit" is a measure of how efficiently an entity utilizes the raw materials at its command.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Fortunately, the article was not expressing Gov. Palin's opinion. Just speculating on what her strategy might be based on Hillary's experience.
48 posted on 08/18/2011 7:44:35 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

$20.12 headed her way as soon as she says she’s running. Let that trickle down your leg Chris, or shove it up your behind.


49 posted on 08/18/2011 7:47:16 AM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

There will be many debates where she can ‘prove’ herself to you. The flippin election is almost a year and a half away, for Pitty’s sake.


50 posted on 08/18/2011 7:49:33 AM PDT by GlockLady (Right is right even if nobody else is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone else is doing it.)
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