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Obama's New Fuel Economy Standards Will Increase Cost of a Car More Than $11,000
CNSNews.com ^ | 08-18-11 | Nicholas Ballasy

Posted on 08/18/2011 10:07:32 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA

The Obama Administration’s new fuel economy standards will result in the retail price of average motor vehicles to increase over $11,000, according to a study conducted by the Center for Automotive Research.

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The Obama administration’s new fuel economy standards would require automakers to produce cars and light trucks with an average fuel economy of 54.5 mpg by 2025. The Center for Automotive Research says their study is “the result of 11 months of effort and investigation by researchers at CAR in 2010-2011.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automobiles; cafestandards; carexpense; flashmobburnsgovcars; fueleconomy; fuelstandards; gas; mileage; vehicleexpense
This CAFE stuff is across the board. Big Rigs and Suburbans are thrown in. I think it is great that there is push-back in the House over the light bulb ban, but this is a far more serious issue. The automakers are going to have to price normal size cars so high that everyone has to by Smart car size stuff for them to meet these outrageous fleet standards. I better start hearing about this on the campaign trail and fast.


1 posted on 08/18/2011 10:07:42 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA
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To: Lazlo in PA

Not to mention that it will also drive healthcare costs up when people get into accidents.

On the plus side, you might be able to buy a funeral at bulk-rate prices! :)


2 posted on 08/18/2011 10:11:53 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Lazlo in PA
In A Ditch2

Countdown until Obama leaves Office: 520 days as of August 18, 2011.

3 posted on 08/18/2011 10:12:14 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I’m going to buy a new 4x4 pickup the day before these new regs go into effect, and keep it until I die. However, I would also like to buy one of those little Messerschmidt cars you showed, just to say I own a Messerschmidt.


4 posted on 08/18/2011 10:12:14 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Lazlo in PA

WOuld be easy with the NeW.... MyT engine.. of Angel Labs...


5 posted on 08/18/2011 10:16:55 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Lazlo in PA

The miles per gallon is 58 miles a gallon. That is huge. I just bought my new car in July 2011....A toyota so I won’t be in need of a new car until 2017.


6 posted on 08/18/2011 10:18:12 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Lazlo in PA

Elections do have consequences. Americans better pull their heads out of their *** before 2012. They got their “historic” election now it’s time for us to try to save what is left of our country if we can.


7 posted on 08/18/2011 10:22:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans need to wean their government off of its dependence on foreign money.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yeah, I read that the Chevy Volt is selling at about 100 or less units per month (or is that quarter) because of the BIG DEMAND.

Socialism Kills.


8 posted on 08/18/2011 10:25:27 PM PDT by Oiao (Socialism Kills - law abiding citizens with firearms do not.... unless you deserve it.)
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To: ozzymandus
I like micro cars like the Messerschmidt just to goof around, but I am increasingly upset that the full size cars I rely on to protect my family are going to dry up fast.

Things are so bad, this is the new Bentley Barnato that the company has to sell to make fleet averages. Who is going to pay $50K for a micro car?

9 posted on 08/18/2011 10:29:23 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: napscoordinator

By the time 2017 rolls around, a sensible sized car will be a thing of the past.


10 posted on 08/18/2011 10:31:32 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Jonty30

That’s the whole idea. They want you to “nudge” you into the “free market choice” of moving into a rack-and-stack appartment next to a bus line.


11 posted on 08/18/2011 10:41:08 PM PDT by c-five
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To: Lazlo in PA

It’s NOT JUST electricity...

The cost of a car will necessarily SKYROCKET!

The cost of everything will necessarily SKYROCKET!


12 posted on 08/18/2011 11:05:04 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Lazlo in PA

What a jerkball. As if imposing new, arbitrary standards is the achievement. Not getting 40% more mileage out a car, which is a near miracle.

Hey, by the year 2019, I suggest all mile runners complete their races in under 2 minutes and 50 seconds. Whaddya say?


13 posted on 08/18/2011 11:08:24 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both sides need to put aside the partisan bickering, & work out how much free stuff I get)
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To: Lazlo in PA

just imagine what their new heavy-truck mileage requirements will do to the distribution of goods and services.


14 posted on 08/18/2011 11:38:58 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Lazlo in PA

That’s why I hold on to my 1982 Yamaha 50cc motorcycle just in case. (100 mpg maybe).


15 posted on 08/18/2011 11:48:48 PM PDT by Studebaker Hawk (These geeks are a dime-a-dozen. I'm looking for the man with the dimes. Freddy Blassy)
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To: Lazlo in PA

There is a physics-bound limit to what the car can be, and still do that. Some fantastically high priced light magnesium alloy would be needed to keep vehicles to the sizes that people have come to expect, and even losing weight won’t help highway fuel economy very much.


16 posted on 08/19/2011 12:24:01 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Lazlo in PA

$11,000? Soon that will be just an ounce of gold! No Problem!


17 posted on 08/19/2011 12:25:22 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Democrats: debt, dependence and derision)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Part of 0bama’s Kenyan economic theories..


18 posted on 08/19/2011 12:46:33 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Remind me, do we still have a Congress, or is Obama King?

Today Obama issues a Treasonous EO giving back door amnesty to ILLEGAL ALIEN LAWBREAKERS (oxymoron) and it isn't even a blip on the Lamestream Media Radar Screen.

What the hell is going on here? Are we a Nation of Laws or a Banana Republic of Lawless Lawmakers?

19 posted on 08/19/2011 1:01:38 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I was reading estimates of price increases of only $2500, but I knew that was baloney.


20 posted on 08/19/2011 1:07:57 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: Lazlo in PA
If it prevents just ONE asthma attack, it is WORTH it...it's for the cheeeellldrin!

OTOH, $11,000 buys a LOT of inhalers!

In my case, at present cost, that would buy 61 years worth of them; and any alleged ‘air quality improvements’ would not reduce my need. /sarc


However, $11,000 would buy 3,150 gallons of gas at today's price in town.

At 20 mpg, that is over 60,000 miles...about 5 years worth of driving on average.

At 50 mpg, that same 60,000 miles (first 5 years of ownership) would cost $4,200 PLUS the $11,000 off the top on price.

Few people will drive their vehicle enough to make up that $11,000 difference.

At seven (end of 84 month loan & extended warranty period) years, the 20 MPG car is still ahead by $2,180.

HOORAY! FINALLY $340 ahead for the 50MPG machine at the end of 9 years!

Of course, the implicit assumption is that the high-milage version will NOT have additional maintenance costs involved, or the above is even worse.

Whomever this is designed to help, it isn't the consumer!

21 posted on 08/19/2011 1:17:09 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: ApplegateRanch; Lazlo in PA

I forgot to add, it also doesn’t take into consideration the additional auto loan interest on the extra $11,000.

Probably have to keep the car somethiing like 12 years to break even.

Who is getting the money?


22 posted on 08/19/2011 1:20:34 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: hosepipe

With the trucks averaged in at 44 MPG that means my daily rice-burner will have to get 64 MPG.

That will be a two cylinder car that makes a Smart look roomy.

Thank You Chairman MaoBoma.


23 posted on 08/19/2011 1:21:32 AM PDT by KC Burke
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“I forgot to add, it also doesn’t take into consideration the additional auto loan interest on the extra $11,000.”

Not to mention the additional sales tax and the additional excise taxes...both of which are based on PRICE.


24 posted on 08/19/2011 2:11:02 AM PDT by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: Lazlo in PA

It’ll sure make demand for oil go down!


25 posted on 08/19/2011 4:42:42 AM PDT by pa_dweller (Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves:... Isa 1:23)
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