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CDC: Homosexual men account for 61% of new HIV infections but only 2% of population
Life Site News ^ | August 18, 2011 | PATRICK B. CRAINE

Posted on 08/19/2011 12:24:24 PM PDT by NYer

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To: laweeks; Anti-Bubba182

Various studies have been done trying to determine the actual number of homosexuals in the population. It’s hard to accurately determine for a number of reasons; one is homosexuals are not evenly distributed all over the country, but even more this one - many homosexuals change and give up the “gay” life. The figures I’ve seen (I’ll try to look ‘em up) range between 1.5% to 2 point something percent.

The article says that homosexual men are 2% of the population but this is not so at all, since homosexuals both men and women are around (roughly) 2% of the population, so just men would make it around 1% of the total population.

(I’m NOT good at math so someone correct me if I’m wrong.)

I am sure that if the CDC original figures are looked at, they will also show that bisexuals, prostitutes and IV drug users account for almost all the other HIV infections, and many of them are downstream from the “MSM”/men who have sex with men category.

So if the homosexuals aka “Men who have sex with men” stopped doing what they do, HIV rates for all the “downstream” categories would diminish greatly.


51 posted on 08/19/2011 2:17:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Graybeard58
[ Whether it’s a baby that’s born HIV positive, an I.V. drug user, a blood recipient, a woman practicing heterosexuality with it, there’s a queer somewhere in the lineage that introduced it in the mix, therefore H.I.V. is 100% queers fault. ]

Isn't the predominant theory on the origin of AIDS that it was brought into the country by someone "having contact with a monkey".


52 posted on 08/19/2011 2:21:20 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: NYer

Excuse me but didn’t the voters of Florida ratify an constitutional amendment in 2008 specifying that marriage is only between one man and one woman? How can he be fired for expressing a political viewpoint that favors the existing constitutional law in Florida? I think the school district should be expecting to be served by a lawsuit fairly soon.


53 posted on 08/19/2011 2:32:08 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: GraceG

Oral sex is definitely riskier to the health than normal sex. Anal sex is much more dangerous, but it’s a matter of degree.

The reason I know so much (not as much as some of course) is because in the late 80s or early 90s, a good friend was involved in promoting marriage in his community, and was thus targeted by homosexual activists. They sabotaged several of his families’ cars, destroyed his business (had to close it down), sent threatening letters to his family including his wife and children in the threats, and I think there were more things as well. He had a local radio show at the time, and sent out a newsletter which I subscribed to.

Really opened my eyes to what the “gay” agenda and life is all about.


54 posted on 08/19/2011 2:33:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: NYer
homosexual men aged 13

See my tagline.

55 posted on 08/19/2011 2:34:48 PM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Since when are BOYS between 13 and 17 considered to be men?

Well, since they're prime targets for sodomites, they'll construe them to be "men" for their own purposes.

56 posted on 08/19/2011 2:39:28 PM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: lacrew

I left active duty in 1988, haven’t been to sea since 1984. It used to be true (self-supply of blood), I don’t know about now.

DADT is an attack, and it’s deliberate. Any harm done to morale, health, or combat readiness by “progressive” policies is intentional.


57 posted on 08/19/2011 2:46:45 PM PDT by CPO retired
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To: NYer
...homosexual men aged 13 to 29 accounted for 27% of the new cases.

13? OMG...our society needs so much help. Not only because this is immoral and perverted. But this is just sad, really sad. Thirteen year olds should be out having fun on the countryside, not getting introduced to sex...any type of sex...by adults. We have become a sick, shameful, sex crazed society and our kids are dying because of it. Shame on anyone...homo- or heterosexual who engages in or promotes any sex activity with a 13 year old.

What an epitaph for the liberal education doctrines and PC mandates advocated in today's schools.

58 posted on 08/19/2011 2:50:07 PM PDT by CitizenM (He who is silent is understood to consent)
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To: sten
if they added the bisexual men, I’m sure the percentage would be almost 80% of the source of infections

My guess is that bisexuals are the big vector from the homo community to the heterosexual population. That and drug paraphernalia.

59 posted on 08/19/2011 2:51:26 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: GraceG

I heard it was eating raw monkey brain, or meat.


60 posted on 08/19/2011 2:55:32 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: All

Lots of those AA men are coming out of prison after subscribing to a notion of “if he’s fellating me, he’s the gay one not me.”

Once out of prison, it’s screw everything with a pulse. Some of these guys know they have the HIV, others don’t. Some don’t care.

Many women who are enamored with the whole “thug” persona are putting themselves at great personal risk and any subsequent partners they have.


61 posted on 08/19/2011 3:09:40 PM PDT by Molon Labbie
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To: lacrew

Bingo. I was wondering how long it would take for this to be brought up. By definition though, the military and Red Cross will not except any blood from anybody who has had homosexual sodomy or used drugs with needles.


62 posted on 08/19/2011 3:18:32 PM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: GraceG

That’s the way I heard it...AIDS lay as a dormant disease in primates then somebody in the bush must have got it on with some ape...transmitted human to human until it got out of the country with a gay flight attendant who was promiscuous in the SoCal area...

Have a countdown until Barney Frank and NAMBLA make an announcement that the CDC is under the sway of Tea Party Terrorists...10...9...8...7...6...


63 posted on 08/19/2011 3:43:04 PM PDT by tarotsailor
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To: NYer

Didn’t it used to be 90+%?


64 posted on 08/19/2011 3:50:30 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: MSF BU; lacrew; forgotten man; CPO retired
By definition though, the military and Red Cross will not except any blood from anybody who has had homosexual sodomy or used drugs with needles.

That doesn't seem fair, does it? You can save the homosexual with your blood, but he can only condemn you with his.

I'd think when folks figure this out that it would be a huge morale problem.

And to say we could always bring in fresh blood with resupply is forgetting that we haven't been in a major naval warfare where battle groups become isolated.

Some will say that it's all ok because there are HIV tests, but the truth is that the time from infection to infectiousness is only a matter of weeks. In other words, Sailor A could be tested and could be clean prior to deployment. If at any point after deployment he becomes infected on any liberty in any port, he is able to spread the HIV virus just a few weeks later.

And have we mentioned the extreme promiscuity of homosexuals....nearly 100% reporting multiple partners per year. Some report 100's per year.

We haven't yet gotten into the issue of other blood-borne pathogens carried at an extremely high rate by homosexuals. They don't give you a pre-deployment hepatitis test, do they?

You can give first aid to a bleeding homosexual but it is a danger to you. A bleeding homosexual gives you first aid and it's a danger to you. A transfusion from a homosexual is a danger to you.

In addition to being a huge health negative, it is also going to be a huge morale negative.

You can help with 100% of the heavy lifting. They can't.

65 posted on 08/19/2011 4:10:01 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: lacrew

66 posted on 08/19/2011 4:18:11 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: NYer

Can’t imagine why.


67 posted on 08/19/2011 4:21:01 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: xzins

Yes it is a filthy, unhealthy, dangerous lifestyle. As regards testing, unless things have changed a service member is tested once every two years...I think on even birth years, somebody can correct me. Certainly NOBODY would want a loved one to get a blood transfusion from a population with large numbers of homosexual male donors.


68 posted on 08/19/2011 4:48:22 PM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: Morpheus2009
It's the activity rather than the inclination that makes the blood potentially unsafe to use. A man who considered himself "straight" but had engaged in sex with another male could potentially be infected, whereas a man with homosexual inclinations who had never acted on them would not be potentially infected. So I think the Red Cross questionnaire has it right.

They also try to exclude men who have had sex with prostitutes (because of the danger of infection) but no questionnaire is going to catch everyone, even if everyone answers truthfully--a man could be infected from a girlfriend who earlier had an affair with an infected bisexual man. In the past there may have been an effort to exaggerate the extent of heterosexual transmission of the AIDS virus, but it does happen.

69 posted on 08/19/2011 5:58:34 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Waco

>>> she came down with mumps and had to return home. He had to go get her cause they would not allow her on a plane to come back. I told him to have her say she had AIDS and they’d allow her on a plane. Bet me.

I’m sure you are correct. They’d let her on the airplane if she only had aids.

Now can you figure out on your own why your remark was so dumb? Or do you need a hint that the spread of the mumps virus by airborne droplets and casual skin contact is a different mode then the spread of the aids virus.


70 posted on 08/19/2011 6:21:12 PM PDT by tlb
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To: Graybeard58
You're sick.

SIV jumped species, becoming HIV, because of Africans hunting primates as bushmeat.

71 posted on 08/19/2011 7:30:13 PM PDT by newzjunkey (We are the frog on slow a boil. More soft tyranny from this regime.)
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To: newzjunkey
You're sick.

Nope, I'm normal, queers are sick.

SIV jumped species, becoming HIV, because of Africans hunting primates as bushmeat.

I don't give a rats ass how it started originally, it's spread by queers.

72 posted on 08/19/2011 8:02:44 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (The only problem some people have with tyranny is that they’re not the tyrant.)
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To: GraceG
HIV isn’t a homosexual disease, it is a pervert’s disease.

Same thing.

73 posted on 08/19/2011 8:08:54 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: NYer

What about the dozens of other infectious diseases that male homos have captured the pride of a #1 ranking? Syphilis, gonorrhea, ............................


74 posted on 08/20/2011 8:32:38 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Pessimist

All because gays cannot be bothered to wear a condom.””

Many of the infections agents (at least a dozen associated with male homo behavior) are spread as a result of fecal consumption during rimming and felching operations. Homos apparently can’t find a condom to fit their mouths. Disgusting but true.


75 posted on 08/20/2011 8:37:45 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: CitizenM

Sad story is, back in the late 1970s and early 1980s, there was the crowd of kids which enjoyed building forts or rope bridges, or whatever else your teenage intellect could come up with, including perhaps a little bonfire in a friend’s backyard. It was fun, and involved some intellectual taxing at the same time. Then even then, there was the crowd of potheads and hippies that were a little notorious for doing their free love and drug use. But then as time rolled around, from the late 80s, early 90s, and now the early 21st century, you saw an ever increasing number of kids who just had to spend all day with their video games, drugs, and sex, and such, I don’t know or can’t say, but it has become less the world I grew up with. Even sadder thing was, there are perhaps less and less suitable people for kids who were at my age of finishing my Bachelor’s who can find a decent person to marry, much less are ready to for various reasons, or perhaps could have decided to marry but chosen the weak imitation called cohabitation. Frankly, if so many people had chosen real marriage over simply cohabitating with your girlfriend/boyfriend, we would have way more support for traditional marriage over what we have now.

What’s even more sad is when I have to take a look at the kind of material the younger generation gets while they are just in high school nowadays, in my time as a teen, it was way more mild, and closer as well to recognizing that there’s a proper place for some things. Back in my time, they even got away with the explanation that puberty was about the development of what could eventually allow you to become a successful mother or father sometime, sad what plenty of it comes to, sad that plenty of young people who are barely into young adulthood or teen years are getting into sex, when there’s still a long life ahead of you.


76 posted on 08/21/2011 9:16:43 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: little jeremiah

My experience was this. People will hound answers out of you as to where you stand regarding homosexuality, it happens at work, it happens when some person attending church might ask you after mass (my own experience), and it can happen at work too, it can even happen to our own kids at school, as far as I can figure. Even so much as refusing an answer pretty much meant that you were against them. With or against them is how they run, and I it’s sad to think that some people cannot get that part right. Frankly, this is an issue where we either all fall separately, or we can all get together, draw our lines, and all be in for it together.


77 posted on 08/21/2011 9:23:25 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: little jeremiah

My experience was this. People will hound answers out of you as to where you stand regarding homosexuality, it happens at work, it happens when some person attending church might ask you after mass (my own experience), and it can happen at work too, it can even happen to our own kids at school, as far as I can figure. Even so much as refusing an answer pretty much meant that you were against them. With or against them is how they run, and I it’s sad to think that some people cannot get that part right. Frankly, this is an issue where we either all fall separately, or we can all get together, draw our lines, and all be in for it together.


78 posted on 08/21/2011 9:23:44 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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