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Rick Perry, Annotated
Weekly Standard ^ | August 29, 2011 | Andrew Ferguson, senior editor

Posted on 08/20/2011 3:49:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The one who never gets tired of posting, pimping?,
their candidate is clear YOU, Cincinatus’ Wife

Now, why does the post of Gov. Palin
so bother YOU and RINO Perry?

and why DID Perry interfere with people speaking with
Gov. Palin? Seems not appropriate, and something else.

How do posting the urls and picture constitute
a “lie”? Is that you projecting, again?

Is that Captain Gardasil thinking again?
The kind which attempts to remove ‘informed consent’
so to enable selling children as guinea pigs for profit?


51 posted on 08/20/2011 7:42:21 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Thanks for the link, she gave a nice talk and was answering questions quite well until she was cut off. Fwiw, this was reported by Human Events, not the HuffPo. Here is the quote from the piece:

The Republican Governors Conference Press Guidelines promised that Alaska Governor Sarah Palin would “take approximately 20 minutes of questions” at today’s morning press conference. Instead, this press conference, attended by 150 local and national media and taped by 26 video cameras, disintegrated into a fiasco when Texas Governor Rick Perry shut it down after only five minutes and four questions.

Eight other governors assembled on the stage, all men, seemed visibly uncomfortable with the “Palin at center stage” format. When Perry stepped in front of Palin at the podium to announce it was over just as it was getting started, Palin looked irritated, and the media shouted, “You’ve got to be kidding,” “This is ridiculous,” "Come on,” and “We were promised more questions.”

Forty minutes later, at a larger gathering attended by most the seventeen governors at the Conference, Bill Kristol of The Weekly Standard may have given the reason why Palin was reined in: envy. Said Kristol, “This is not the Republican Governors Association. This is really the Republican Presidential Candidates Association.”

I saw the footage you linked to, and the report appears correct, he cut off her questioning and was visibly miffed. Cordial, but miffed. The reporters said just what was reported in 2008, this is not an attempt by Palin supporters to rewrite what happened, but it does appear a few Perry supporters are trying to deny the fact that it did happen the way the article describes.

This is not a deal killer for me, I'll support him if he wins, but it's one of the many reasons he's not my first choice.

52 posted on 08/20/2011 7:49:57 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Diogenesis

He did not interfere with her speaking.
She even got another 20 minutes later in the day.

I do not go on Sarah Palin threads like you do to Perry threads and carpet bomb them with this crap.


53 posted on 08/20/2011 7:51:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lakeshark
Thanks for the link, she gave a nice talk and was answering questions quite well until she was cut off. Fwiw, this was reported by Human Events, not the HuffPo. Here is the quote from the piece:

I made clear it was a VIDEO at the Huffington Post that began this. The rest is just your conjecture. I said LOOK at the video. I suggest that's where one can make their own judgement of the tone of the interview (the questioners were clearly hostile and making her uncomfortable) and how Perry acted toward the media and toward Palin.

54 posted on 08/20/2011 7:55:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: rbg81
Of the current field of announced candidates, I think Romney is the safest bet.

You just put yourself at the top of everyone's idiot list.

55 posted on 08/20/2011 8:01:49 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The link we've been talking about is from Human Events, a conservative publication. It's where I got my quotes from, what Diogenesis quotes are from and where the reporting was done. She was handling the questions with ease from what I could tell, much like she did in Iowa a week or so ago.

It was other conservatives who reported at the time that Perry was miffed and envious, not something I'm extrapolating now. It's in the clip, and in context the reporting was correct.

Like I say, this is not a deal killer for me, the big issue for me so far is Perry's past dalliance with La Raza and his apparent tightness with the W clan on illegal immigration. I don't want that in our nominee, not now, not ever.

The campaign is just beginning, we'll see how this all shakes out in the next 6-9 months.

56 posted on 08/20/2011 8:03:07 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You are disingenuous.

Like your false claims that the RINO Perry
did not attempt to mandate Gardasil for children.

The URLs speak for themselves both with RINO Perry’s
attempt to force a useless drug on chaste children
and his attempts to rewrite this matter.

NO Sale. NO RINOs.


57 posted on 08/20/2011 8:15:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: Lakeshark
Like I say, this is not a deal killer for me, the big issue for me so far is Perry's past dalliance with La Raza and his apparent tightness with the W clan on illegal immigration. I don't want that in our nominee, not now, not ever.

You and Diogenesis make a good anti-Perry team.

58 posted on 08/20/2011 8:15:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"NO more RINOs.
No RomneyCARE.
No PerryCARE."

59 posted on 08/20/2011 8:18:43 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
We don't communicate at all. I took him to task for the exaggeration of the Gardisil efforts a month ago on one of your threads.

You're just upset now that I'm doing (rightfully) the same to your claim here.

Like I say, this strange episode with him cutting Palin off is not a huge deal to me, it's the illegal issue that might be the deal killer, I'm waiting to see how he handles it going forward because so far he hasn't handle it well by his La Raza pandering.

60 posted on 08/20/2011 8:20:02 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

What was an exaggeration of the Gardisil efforts?
Do you have something against ‘informed consent’ in
favor of PerryCARE to contribute?

Do you have some problem with THOSE urls, FRiend?


61 posted on 08/20/2011 8:42:12 AM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: Diogenesis
No one was hurt, no one was forced.

It wasn't a pretty moment for Perry (understatement), but it's a harmless mistake (dumb but harmless), one he's admitted.

It's the illegal thing I'm more concerned with at this point.

62 posted on 08/20/2011 8:51:03 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: AAABEST

Yeah, whatever. Everyone’s got an a$$hole and everyone’s got an opinion. And your pick would be??


63 posted on 08/20/2011 9:38:56 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81
I used to think along the same lines regarding another Texan in the Oval Office. Now, however, I don't think "Texas" will be the albatross that it once was. That is due to the horrendous state of the economy. The economic news out there really is scary. We are on the verge of a second recession, and now it's directly linkable to Obama. Americans are tolerant and accommodating to a fault, but there are some things that are unforgivable. Among them are amateurishness and incompetence. Obama is showing both traits in abundance, and bigger and bigger chunks of the electorate are starting to notice.

Now, along comes another Texas guy who sounds like Dubya, but has a 10 year record of relative success on the jobs front. The major thing that's eating people in this election cycle is JOBS, JOBS, JOBS. Perry’s record, rightly or wrongly, gives him the best chance to monopolize that meme. The "social issues" (abortion, gay marriage, et al.) are of course important, but they don't weight on people's minds the way they used to. A guy who hasn't had a job in two years doesn't give a rip about Perry's doings in the Gardasil affair.

Of course, those are political considerations. Exploiting them adeptly will win you the election. The real question is, does Perry (or anyone) know what to do about currency manipulations of the Chinese, our vanishing industrial capacity, and our monetary policies? Is there someone out there who can be to Perry (or to whomever wins) what Paul Volker was to Reagan? Our problems have been many decades in the making, and it will take some real savvy to work out these issues prudently. So far, McCotter seems willing to address these issues, and to a lesser extent, Perry.

64 posted on 08/20/2011 1:36:37 PM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: ishmac

We all know the MSM will go all out to re-elect Obama. If Perry is his rival, the thing they will try to do is turn him in GWB in the eyes of the nation. The fact that he is Gov of Texas and shares some GWB attributes means their job will be easy. A lof of people buy into the line that Obama “inherited” the recession from GWB. Really, I think the Dems in general (and Barney Frank in particular) are complicit, but GWB isn’t blameless either.

I think either Romney or Christie would be hard for Obama to beat. Christie comes across as very competent and credible. Many here will call them RHINOs, but consider the alternative. In the end, I’ll vote for whoever the GOP nominee is.


65 posted on 08/20/2011 2:18:44 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Diogenesis

THANK YOU-!!! If knew how, I would put up a pic of Katie on EVERY thread that involves the OTHER PERRY-!! Keeps him in perspective-!!!


66 posted on 08/20/2011 3:50:42 PM PDT by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: imjimbo

“No RINOs”

67 posted on 08/20/2011 5:41:17 PM PDT by Diogenesis (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain)
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To: Ditter
You might be surprised at how many people feel that Palin is not ready for this.

No, I don't think I would. Women's reactions aside (special case there), I myself thought she was too green when she first appeared in 2008, and I thought McCain had stumbled.

But in the year and a half after that my opinion of her changed, and I watched her work people I'd never go near, like Saturday Night Live's cast, and I got a firming impression of her good judgment and confidence.

Experiencewise you are right -- but it is her moral center of gravity and her judgment above all that we so sorely need. That and her enthusiasm and ability to pull in independents (again, excepting certain women, lots of them) -- I think she's a true charismatic leader like Ronald Reagan, hence my references to "lightning in a bottle". She doesn't have the political education or the oratorical education to deliver a Great Oration like the "Cross of Gold Speech" or Kennedy's inaugural address, but she has the moral center that the country desperately needs to recenter on Norman Rockwell's Normal, which we used casually to refer to as decency.

Yes, of course I'd prefer she were six or seven years older with three terms as governor of, say, Florida or Ohio under her belt. And everyone wants ice cream. Well, that opportunity got taken away by Rahm Emanuel and his political operatives, who spotted in the Alaska sunshine and official-integrity laws a chance to beggar Palin and her family and drive her from office, after keeping her from discharging her office for, say, about six years. That would have been lovely -- from the point of view of Obama's bottom-feeders.

So she has what she has, and she has to go out there like David with his sling and his Magen David and his courage and the favor of Almighty God, and little else. Is that not good enough? For some people, I guess not.

68 posted on 08/20/2011 6:26:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I think my friends were commenting on her youth and lack of experience outside of Alaska. These were all older women and it was not a”she's prettier than I am so I hate her” attitude.

I like her very much but I haven't decided who I will vote for in the primary (if it isn't all over by the time Texas votes). I like Palin and Perry the best so it will be one of those.

I did have Bachman in there but I like her less now for several reasons. If she had only sent shockwaves through Chris Whateverhisnameis, for asking her the question about submitting to her husband. That made me furious and I wanted to punch his lights out but she got the deer in the headlights look and then gave a non answer.

She missed a good opportunity to show her strength.

She should have responded like Newt did to a question that should not have been asked.

69 posted on 08/20/2011 7:21:01 PM PDT by Ditter
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