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Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist (BARF)
WSJ ^ | August 16th | Jonathan Weisman

Posted on 08/20/2011 4:59:37 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

For a small-government conservative on the presidential campaign stump like Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a new federal regulation forcing farmers to get commercial drivers licenses would make a perfect example of Barack Obama’s Washington run amok.

But there is no such regulation.

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The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration stepped in to clarify whether the states had the right to do what Illinois had done, and on May 31, the U.S. Department of Transportation issued a public notice asking for comment on the commercial licensing of farm equipment.

Many in the farm community saw that notice as evidence that federal regulations were brewing, and the rumor went viral. That speeded up the process in Washington. Last Wednesday, the agency moved to put the issue to rest.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cdl; laraza; maldef; obama; perry; perrytards; regulation; rickperry; texas; texican
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This article is contradictory; at best gets away with a technicality.

No, there was no actual regulation. That's because the people stood up to stop it.

So is the nature of the republican establishment.

1 posted on 08/20/2011 4:59:44 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

My point on this one: who freaking cares?

Even if this isn’t 100% on the money, when was the last time you saw Obama standing as a roadblock to unnecessary and burdensome regulation? Answer: Never. Unless it got his big corporate campaign contributors out of paying taxes.

I guess you can argue that Perry should be more cautious, but someone who is willing to charge forward and not worry about stepping on someone’s toes is kind of a nice change.


2 posted on 08/20/2011 5:04:03 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Very deceitful. The DOT was indeed considering licensing.

Feds back off commercial licenses for farmers idea

By JOHN SEEWER, Associated Press – 3 days ago

Federal highway officials have decided that farmers who operate tractors, combines and semitrailers can keep driving on rural roads without the same kind of regulations that apply to long-haul truckers.

The U.S. Department of Transportation announced last week that it won’t require farmers to get commercial driver’s licenses after agriculture organizations and lawmakers from farm states flooded Washington with letters opposed to the idea.

It’s a victory for farmers who argued that requiring them to carry commercial licenses would cost them time and money.

Agriculture groups were alarmed this spring when the transportation department asked for thoughts on whether commercial truck safety regulations also should apply to farmers who drive their equipment on highways and rural roads within their own state.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gpt3jToLtf2-Vci3mO5qzYcQZ5Hg?docId=c4f5b5a5d4c0444f811d8b4105db2aa6


3 posted on 08/20/2011 5:04:22 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
If Obama said the same thing, you wouldn't hear a peep out of the MSM...
4 posted on 08/20/2011 5:04:57 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Perry talks a lot. I’m still reading.


5 posted on 08/20/2011 5:05:54 AM PDT by allmost
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Referring to a regulation that doesn’t exist is not as bad as referring to 7 states that do not exist.


6 posted on 08/20/2011 5:07:01 AM PDT by Lucas McCain
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

This is a perfect example of how terrified the establishment is, both Dem and Pub, of Perry!


7 posted on 08/20/2011 5:09:11 AM PDT by Castigar
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The WSJ is no friend of the Conservative T.E.A. Party!

Its attack on TEA Party during the debt limit fight is still fresh in my mind.

8 posted on 08/20/2011 5:10:57 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I’m not a Perry supporter, but that the Obama administration was even considering doing this (to the benefit of the Teamsters at the cost of all family farms) is appalling.

It’s a fine bit of counterproductive extremity for Perry to campaign against.


9 posted on 08/20/2011 5:12:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Lucas McCain
Referring to a regulation that doesn’t exist is not as bad as referring to 7 states that do not exist.

Beat me to it.

10 posted on 08/20/2011 5:14:20 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Repub gaffes/mistakes are headlines.

Obama gaffes/mistakes are hidden.


11 posted on 08/20/2011 5:15:49 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Gee, our self-proclaimed "conservative" masters don't like Sarah. They don't like Michele. They don't like Rick.

I guess we are all just going to have to vote for Johnny Goodboy Mittens. /s.

Perry in 2012.

12 posted on 08/20/2011 5:16:45 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Very deceitful. The DOT was indeed considering licensing.”

Indeed.

From the linked article “We have no intention of instituting onerous regulations on the hardworking families who feed our country and fuel our economy,” Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, himself an Illinoisan and a Republican, said in the agency’s statement Aug. 10.”

AUGUST 10th!

(LOL, just realized there is no way to capitalize numbers!)

Of course they wanted to do this. The phones must have been ringing off the hook.

So, Perry might have to tweak his lingo a little bit, but let us not forget the struggle today is all about the desire of government (at all levels) to infest our lives and control us in every action, and inaction.

The fact that this little escapade has been stopped (for now) doesn’t undermine that point in the least.


13 posted on 08/20/2011 5:17:42 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

He made the comment on Monday exactly because the fedgov had done nothing to dispel the notion that this was going to happen. In fact they had done the opposite by entertaining “comments”…..which mean they WERE thinking of doing it. The fact that the fedgov had to deny it two days after Perry said something about their plans makes me say “Thanks Rick Perry”.


14 posted on 08/20/2011 5:18:26 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

So Obama can demagogue all he wants and make stuff up.

Where are the headlines that say, “Republicans aren’t really sipping slurpies; Obama is wrong”

Perry was stumping and making fun of the ridiculous regulations.


15 posted on 08/20/2011 5:21:12 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The ‘Rockyfeller’ RINOs and Rove want to force a Romney/Huntsman loser ticket on us. They are scared to death of Rick Perry, just as the demonrats are, because Perry can win.
16 posted on 08/20/2011 5:26:41 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I think I’ll give Perry a pass on this one. He well may have misunderstood the law as it currently stands, but the Fed’s have a history of passing stupid legislation. Perhaps calling attention to it this way is a good thing. If you give him the benefit of the doubt, you could read his words and say that he sees such rules coming down the road.


17 posted on 08/20/2011 5:28:00 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

When did the WSJ start allowing interns to write? Any journalist with a scintilla of analytical skills would know a proposal by a gubmint agency is a mere prelude to implementation.


18 posted on 08/20/2011 5:29:40 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: ilovesarah2012

I don’t put anything past politicians and bureaucrats. I never understood having to pay tax year after year on farm equipment (tractors, plows, bush hogs, etc). This stuff was bought (sales taxes paid) and not taken on public roads.

Government can be a bunch of mobsters.


19 posted on 08/20/2011 5:34:26 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Fight for Liberty)
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To: ilovesarah2012

KEEP AN EYE ON THIS DIRT BAG JOHNATHAN WISEMAN
AND BE READY TO DISECT ANY REPORT THIS GUY MAKES

“Very deceitful. The DOT was indeed considering licensing.” You betcha ...And Wiseman should be taken to the woodshed for his presentation.

Fact is on one of his “campaign” (which we paid for) stops Mr Zero got an earfull. That was duly brought out by Orin Samuelson in a weekly On The Farm radio show when he interviewed one of Mr Zero’s farmer hosts.

TIME TO START CALLING THESE “AUTHORS” OUT BY NAME ALONG WITH THEIR VENUES...


20 posted on 08/20/2011 5:44:47 AM PDT by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: jocon307

Absolutely. I have never seen my government be so deceitful in my lifetime. If Obama gets re-elected, I’m moving to Cuba!


21 posted on 08/20/2011 5:47:56 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: mosesdapoet

That’s Weisman not Wiseman sorry


22 posted on 08/20/2011 5:50:16 AM PDT by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: mosesdapoet

If the WSJ is attacking Perry, they must doubt that he’s one of them (open borders, one world, crony capitalist). Maybe I’ll reconsider my opposition to him...


23 posted on 08/20/2011 5:51:51 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The author is clueless. A proposed regulation is the first step to become law. It carries more potential weight than a proposed law because the regulating authority has already been given the authority to regulate by congress and this is their first indication of what they intend to do and plan accordingly.


24 posted on 08/20/2011 5:53:16 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: ilovesarah2012
Very deceitful. The DOT was indeed considering licensing.

"Considering" is an understatement. Virtually all proposed regulations become final and most comments are ignored.

25 posted on 08/20/2011 5:57:13 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Recovering_Democrat

And anyone with an hour of government experience knows that just dropping a ‘possibility’ is the key to actual government action.


26 posted on 08/20/2011 5:58:42 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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And anyone with an hour of government experience knows that just dropping a ‘possibility’ is the key to actual government action.

Very true. Issuing a proposed regulation in tax law is one way the IRS gets its way. There are some proposed regulations that are decades old because the IRS knows congress would overrule them. Left as a proposed regulation they serve to intimidate taxpayers into a behavior that they prefer lest someone wants to tangle with them.

I would assume that this proposed regulation would begin to cost money even before becoming final. Some farmers would want to be in compliance when the regulation is final lest they lose financing, insurance etc by being out of compliance.

I think what people miss on this is that getting to a regulation is a very formal process. It isn't a bunch of guys shooting ideas on a blackboard and doing a tour of the country with a bus to get some ideas. This is an agency that has studied the issue. Their attorneys have decided they have authority to regulate, they have drafted very detailed regulations and they have published them according to the rule making process. The comments they are seeking have nothing to do with whether to regulate. They have to do with application- the how to's not the whether to's. They already decided on the latter.

27 posted on 08/20/2011 6:11:11 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TexasCajun

We all stray from the truth and exactitude now and then. The WSJ here is acting like a communist hypocritical maid trying to create divisions from policies and people on very little. Sometimes communists do not realize they are communists.


28 posted on 08/20/2011 6:13:10 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: nhwingut

When, oh, when is the Obama administration going to do something about all those doctors running around chopping off innocent peoples feet, ripping out kids’ tonsils and forcing children to have Breathalyzers done against their will??!!!
Oh, the humanity!


29 posted on 08/20/2011 6:16:04 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Obama's Fault!!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Did you know that in Texas there is no sales tax on anything involved with agriculture.


30 posted on 08/20/2011 6:19:48 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

At least he appears to know when his own and kids’ birthdays are, and what year it is. All things Obama has gotten wrong in the last few months.


31 posted on 08/20/2011 6:24:56 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Tribune7

Right now I am liking Perry too! I am also aghast at the “self-proclaimed “conservative” masters” and their basic ignorance regarding the vetting process.

Check this out:

“There are times when pundits stake out positions for the right reasons, and there are times when they seem to stake out positions for the sake of attention. I’ll leave readers to judge for themselves what’s going on in some of this vitriol being hurled against Perry at the moment. I wouldn’t go as far as to throw around the “fringe” label. Vetting Perry is perfectly fine and necessary; smearing him is irresponsible.

The fact is, Perry can win. The other fact is, for us over here on the Right, Perry is in many ways the man the left thought George W. Bush was. He has a real record of success. That record is attracting positive attention from people who have been adversely slammed by Obama’s reign. Those who look for the “perfect” candidate will look forever in vain. But to the extent that some spend their time tearing down perfectly solid candidates who can defeat Obama and reverse the damage he has done, they’re inadvertently doing The Won’s bidding.”

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/08/19/on-rick-perry-and-purity


32 posted on 08/20/2011 6:25:57 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: ozark hilljilly
ripping out kids’ tonsils

I heard a talk by a professor on this tonsil statistic among other health care stuff. He sighted a study that one doctor in a state did significantly more tonsillectomies than normal. After his talk I asked him if they investigated the reasons. He said no. I asked if its possible that other doctors could have been referring them to him if he was more comfortable doing them and he said that was certainly a possibility but no one checked.

33 posted on 08/20/2011 6:26:04 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

The WSJ may chuckle over this but, as most of us know, crazy rules that don’t become law because of citizen opposition have a way of becoming law, one way or another... sooner or later.
I’d like to thank Perry for publicizing yet another insane trial balloon from this administration.


34 posted on 08/20/2011 6:43:42 AM PDT by Kanzan
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To: SumProVita
Treviño then responded, writing: “Sorry, but if you’re charging RICK PERRY with being an Obamaesque, Latino-racialist, Islamist-friendly non-conservative …. you’re nuts.”

LOL. Sums it up for me.

35 posted on 08/20/2011 6:56:59 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Your full of CRAP !

Are you a Obot or Paulite ?

Johnyy Weisman is a very well known Dem party troll from way back.

Johnny attended in secret in 2006 the Nancy Pelosi - a seminar on how to be a good left wing radical for new Dem aides and Johnny went too!

Read all about Johnny's left wing DNC background in
newsbusters

http://newsbusters.org/search/node/weisman

You trolls are swarming here

36 posted on 08/20/2011 7:05:16 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
JOHNNY W is a former left wing nutter from the Compost and SALON !

Read all about the Dem party operative.

The WSJ has gone hard left if this Pelosi troll is working there.

http://newsbusters.org/search/node/weisman

37 posted on 08/20/2011 7:08:21 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
JOHNNY W is a former left wing nutter from the Compost and SALON !

Read all about the Dem party operative.

The WSJ has gone hard left if this Pelosi troll is working there.

http://newsbusters.org/search/node/weisman

38 posted on 08/20/2011 7:10:30 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Like his executive order on deportations. He claimed and repeated that it needed to be done congressionally....then since hispanic support was sliding...he jumped up and ordered it.

Let this ruckus die down and they may decide they need to license farm equipment again.


39 posted on 08/20/2011 7:23:28 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Lucas McCain

The regulation existed. The nobama idiots were forced to take it back 3 days ago, or so now they say “3 days ago”.

In effect or not in effect, Perry was right for bringing it up. Who knows it could just as easily go back into effect next Wednesday.


40 posted on 08/20/2011 7:28:32 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Oh, come on ... it was under consideration and if not for the outcry you betcha it would have been promulgated.


41 posted on 08/20/2011 7:50:11 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Murray / Baucus / Kerry / Upton / Clyburn? I've had better picks come out of my nose.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

A big thanks to Rick Perry. You are all ready more effective than Obama.

Thanks again.


42 posted on 08/20/2011 7:50:40 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: 9YearLurker

Bumping your comment.

I’m not in the Perry column yet. Still reading. I have deep concerns, but I sure like what he is saying. Saw this on Yahoo news this morning about Perry’s proposed changes to the Constitution, and agree with all of it. If he could win and actually make good on this platform, it would do a great deal to protect America as America.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/seven-ways-rick-perry-wants-change-constitution-131634517.html


43 posted on 08/20/2011 8:26:14 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Perry has to stay above these “Gotcha” moments from the MSM. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t answer, just make a point that this is all part of a larger plan to chip away at his candidacy and he’s going to focus on the big stuff like saving this country.

This is how they went at Sarah.


44 posted on 08/20/2011 8:26:57 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
and on May 31, the U.S. Department of Transportation issued a public notice asking for comment on the commercial licensing of farm equipment.

This author is a moron. If there was no intention of issuing such a regulation why is the DOT spending time and money asking for comment on such a regulation?

45 posted on 08/20/2011 8:45:32 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: TEXOKIE

Seven Amendments to the Constitution? Holy cow! Looked through and I’m really not for that. The problem with legislation from the bench has to do with who has been elected to name whom as judges. I really don’t see the lifetime tenure as the primary issue.

Likewise, I don’t for a minute want to see Congress able to roll over the judiciary’s protection of individual rights via mob rule (a 2/3rds majority in Congress). That would put us only closer to being a pure democracy rather than a constitutional republic. Very dangerous indeed.

Senators back to being named by the state legislatures again? Eh, I can see some good in that, also some good in the direct election. Moves more cronyism back to the states when cronyism in state legislatures is already pretty thick and ugly.

Abortion? Traditional definition of marriage? There’s nowhere near the popular support for such amendments to get through today. At any time that they could be passed, there’d be sufficient support for them to be protected legislatively, IMO.

Yeah, I’d like to get rid of the federal income tax, but that likewise ain’t happenin’. It’s good rhetoric, but it’s not grounded in political reality.


46 posted on 08/20/2011 9:16:07 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Tribune7; SumProVita; texmexis best; TEXOKIE; Kenny; MNJohnnie; Halfmanhalfamazing
"Gee, our self-proclaimed "conservative" masters don't like Sarah. They don't like Michele. They don't like Rick."

Let's please EVERYBODY and win in a landslide!

Let's run all three of the above as the new PC party ticket. The Progressively Conservative party.

This new PC platform is based on two fundamental and complimentary truths:

1) The Right is very concerned and serious about protecting Freedom FROM Democracy. We see through titles and look for results. And... we suck at marketing.

2) The Left is superficial and uninterested in long-term affects when immediate thrills and meaningless statements are at stake.

Soooooooo.....

Let's start the PC party and run the Three's Company ticket starring Rick Perry as Jack Tripper. Libs will really grow for the threesome aspect, if you know what I mean. More than the Ball will be Hard when Matthews gets a thrill up one leg and down another reminding every guest that he's named after 'Chrissie'. The news folk will love all the angles and triangles to write about. And it would attract many crossovers - I hear Bill Clinton's already on the bus.

Make the campaign site so that it feels like a porn site. Of course, I personally have NO idea what that would entail... but I hear things. Like foreign policy sound bytes referencing the 'Cowboy positions of Dick Perry', ToddP's take on transportion: 'I like it doggie style' and of course photos of Bachmann's hubby to attract the silk shirts. The donations button will be labeled Moms I'd Like to Finance. Expect an orgasm of cash.

The wandering eye of the lecherous left has had Obama, so to speak. Time for something new, someone borrowed and a prez plus two. (Sorry, the rhyming aspect is bait for the Jesse Jackson types.)

So I believe the Left would be accepting - and probably presenting.

And the Right should have no problem supporting three conservatives instead of one or possibly two. As a package deal. We can go pretty dang rogue without being unconstitutional or otherwise scary. Of course only two can appear on the ballot and none of the three egos can be expected to ride in the back today.

However, come October, one quite possible scenario is that my fave, Bachmann, will be trailing Perry and Palin. So she might be receptive to game-changing ideas that keep her relevant. So they draft the "Contract To Save America" or something. Which says Bachmann agrees to drop out and Palin/Perry agree to go Pres/VP based on polls one month later. At which point the VP designee drops out. All three campaign for the one left. Against Romney.

Big primary win for the Right. Slaughter for the establishment - even if they team up too.

Come the general, all three every day hammering Obama. The contract has a P/P ticket with Bachmann promised the role of full-time Congressional liaison. I know, nothing new in theory. But in practice she could be MUCH more visible and her stellar voting record on the pressing issues of today and her federal experience would fill a gaping hole to two state execs leave on the ticket. And when we have summits/pow-wow and such between the White House and Congress, she can bring the Do-As-I-Did gravitas to the arm-twisting table.

It could be a great story of personal sacrifice for the sake of country, an example of team work and an awesome combination of executive experience from our three biggest states -Alaska and Texas- plus the new conservatism of the heartland.

Hey, maybe it will be the start of the Super Committee for Freedom. These three could name names. Fill future jobs. During the campaign instead of after. And highlight the Obama dregs that would be replaced by our much more respectable crew. Lots of material there. With people like Sec. Timmy, AG withHolder, Big Sis, etc. it will NOT be difficult to find starkly and favorably contrasting faces. And policies.

I'm only half joking.

We do need to finds ways to make the glut of better-than-Romney and infinitely-better-than-Obama choices an advantage to their defeat rather than simply another occasion for infighting.

Tyranny never sleeps. But he takes a Shiite load of vacations.

(Note to Mormon candidates: don't try to steal this Three's Company idea. Something reveals to me that it probably will not work for you - even if you were conservative.)

47 posted on 08/20/2011 9:26:59 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: nhwingut

Correct but this wasn’t a gaffe/mistake.


48 posted on 08/20/2011 10:37:55 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit as well as a RINO. Who'd want to be a "real" Republican anyway?)
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To: BuddhaBrown
Awesome, Thanks !
49 posted on 08/20/2011 10:42:56 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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To: MNJohnnie

“Awesome”

Great, the Super Committee for Freedom’s first volunteer!

Ever been a secretary?

Can you click the ‘Calculate’ button in Turbo Tax?

Think you can beat up Tiny Tim?

Excellent.

Treasury... check.

Now...

The SCF has another opening. You get to call yourself a ‘general’. Being an attorney is helpful. But, in reality, anybody with a Heritage Foundation pocket copy of the U.S. Constitution and the minimum smarts to NOT give automatic weapons by the truck load to blood thirsty savages on our own border would be a VAST improvement. Being racist is apparently not a barrier to Holdering this position.


50 posted on 08/20/2011 11:48:36 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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