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Iran sentences 2 American men to 8 years in jail (Berkeley Peace Studies Graduates)
http://www.startribune.com/local/128119833.html ^

Posted on 08/20/2011 7:09:54 AM PDT by macquire

TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's state TV is reporting that two American men already held for two years in Tehran have been sentenced to 8 years in jail each on charges of espionage and illegal entry.

Shane Bauer and Josh Fattal have been held since July 2009 after being taken into custody on the Iran-Iraq border.

The station's website says Bauer and Fattal, who are both 28, have been sentenced to three years each for illegal entry into Iran and five years each for spying for the United States. It's not clear if that includes time served.

They have 20 days to appeal the sentence.

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KEYWORDS: sourcetitlenoturl; wanker
I guess all those Peace Study classes didn't do them any good when they encountered their first hard line thug in the world...
1 posted on 08/20/2011 7:09:57 AM PDT by macquire
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To: macquire

Iran should keep them.


2 posted on 08/20/2011 7:15:02 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: macquire

Does anyone know what “Peace Studies” qualifies you for after graduation?


3 posted on 08/20/2011 7:15:44 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

A job with the Obama administration.


4 posted on 08/20/2011 7:17:13 AM PDT by macquire
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To: macquire
They have 20 days to appeal the sentence.

Translation: 20 days to come up with enough money to buy a reduced sentence or freedom.

5 posted on 08/20/2011 7:17:18 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: macquire
They should have taken a geography class instead of "peace studies."

Then they might have known where the Iranian border was...

6 posted on 08/20/2011 7:17:26 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: macquire

I dunno. You gotta be some kind of stupid or up to something fishy to be “hiking” on the Iraq-Iran border in the middle of a big war. If they were simply guilty of being stupid, Iran won’t suffer those sorts of fools gladly. At least they let the woman go. She’s got a long wait if she was serious about one of them.


7 posted on 08/20/2011 7:19:10 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
"Does anyone know what “Peace Studies” qualifies you for after graduation?"

Hiking mostly. Along war zones. And inclusion in the "Cindy Sheehan Useful Idiots Hall of Fame."
You can also qualify for the "Hanoi Jane Graduate Studies Program" - leads to a career at NPR.
8 posted on 08/20/2011 7:20:08 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (By God, we will not squander what has been given us!)
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To: macquire
It looks like political idealism has given them a taste of reality. ... another Rachel Corrie type story.

Shane Bauer, who grew up both in Onamia, Minnesota and San Leandro, California, is a freelance photojournalist and journalist who has worked for Pacifica News Service, Mother Jones, The Nation and other left-leaning media outlets, using his fluency in speaking Arabic.

Sarah Emily Shourd, who grew up in Los Angeles, California, worked in education and social justice in Damascus where she provided educational opportunities to refugees from the war in Iraq and taught English. Shourd was released by Iran on September 14, 2010 on $500,000 bail. Shourd's bail does not require that she remain in Iran, and her case will still go to trial along with Bauer and Fattal. Shourd's mother has said she had been denied treatment for serious health problems, including a breast lump and precancerous cervical cells. In May 2011, Shourd announced that she would not return to Iran for trial, citing acute ill-health.

Joshua "Josh" Fattal, who grew up in Elkins Park, Pennsylvania, an environmentalist and educator, had been from January to May 2009 a teaching fellow for the International Honors Program (IHP)'s "Health and Community" study abroad program. Prior to traveling with the IHP, Fattal lived and worked at Aprovecho in Oregon, USA, exploring and promoting sustainable living practices.

At least, as we say, "they were doing what they love."

9 posted on 08/20/2011 7:20:12 AM PDT by Baynative (If the government was in charge of the desert , we'd soon have a shortage of sand.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Does anyone know what “Peace Studies” qualifies you for after graduation?

A dubious "scholar in residence" gig in an Iranian prison. That one we know!

10 posted on 08/20/2011 7:23:54 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: macquire

Somebody needs to send them a DVD of “Midnight Express”. I know that was Turkey, but Iran can’t be any better.


11 posted on 08/20/2011 7:25:33 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: macquire

Welcome to the Real World, boys. Turns out America’s not the worst place to get arrested after all, eh?


12 posted on 08/20/2011 7:26:57 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Baynative

I’ve never heard a claim that these three are Jewish. If they are then that would have been part of why the Iranians freaked out so much.


13 posted on 08/20/2011 7:27:03 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: Baynative

I have never believed they were just “hiking”. Liberals are just flat-out dumb and they do dumb things. No sympathy here.


14 posted on 08/20/2011 7:27:31 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

It qualifies you for making Bush-is-bad proclamations with more sanctimony than most others.


15 posted on 08/20/2011 7:27:59 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (Palin Power 2012)
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To: macquire

i doubt that liberal-progressives of their pedigree would spy for the u.s.

i could be wrong.


16 posted on 08/20/2011 7:34:10 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: BradyLS
I read a profile about these two and the woman they were with, and it turns out that they are your typical America-hating Berkley activists who had left the country to live in Damascus so that they could "engage the world."

They got more than they bargained for.

17 posted on 08/20/2011 7:34:52 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Does anyone know what “Peace Studies” qualifies you for after graduation?

Yes!
They’re doing it.......


18 posted on 08/20/2011 7:35:24 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Does anyone know what “Peace Studies” qualifies you for after graduation?

Making Farsi license plates?

19 posted on 08/20/2011 7:35:35 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: Baynative
It looks like political idealism has given them a taste of reality. ... another Rachel Corrie type story.

Very true. At least they've lived to learn from their mistakes. I wonder how much Sarah's decision not to return to Iran played into their decision to keep her two "friends." I don't blame her decision to stay put to avoid a probable stint in prison. But I wonder if, had she gone back to face the music with her colleagues, there was a fair possibility of release for all three or a sentence of time-served.

20 posted on 08/20/2011 7:36:20 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: macquire

It is possible that 8 years in an Iranian prison could offset 4 years at Berkeley, and they could emerge conservatives.


21 posted on 08/20/2011 7:36:59 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: macquire

This is just funny, assuming it is accurately reported. However, it has always been peculiar that these three liberals were just hiking along the Iran/Iraq border.


22 posted on 08/20/2011 7:41:42 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Baynative
using his fluency in speaking Arabic.

He should look at the silver lining. In eight years, he'll be fluent in Farsi as well.

23 posted on 08/20/2011 7:43:58 AM PDT by Gena Bukin (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: macquire; tiapam; oldteen; jaycee; HiJinx; stephenjohnbanker; All

LESSON:

Tresspass into Iran - get arrested, lose 1/2 your body weight and end up in prison for 8 years.

Tresspass into the United States of America - get free food, subsidized housing, free education, free medical care, jobs, throw your trash everywhere, spit on the citizens, and you don’t even have to speak English.


24 posted on 08/20/2011 7:49:52 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie; All

Good post. Enemies foreign, enemies domestic and useful idiots.


25 posted on 08/20/2011 7:58:33 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: macquire

***I guess all those Peace Study classes didn’t do them any good when they encountered their first hard line thug in the world... ***

About them! “Shane Bauer, a 2007 honors graduate in peace and conflict studies,....”

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2009/08/03_hikers.shtml

Wonder how “mush for brains” is going to like “squeeling like a pig” in his Iranian prison cell FOR THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS! A lot of good those “Peace and Conflict” sutdies did him, and Berkeley did a real good job of preparing them for the REAL WORLD! ;-D

Wonder if he has paid off his school loans yet!


26 posted on 08/20/2011 8:02:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: macquire

“Peace Studies” my ass. Man, karma sure is a bitch now isn’t it.


27 posted on 08/20/2011 8:10:13 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Does anyone know what “Peace Studies” qualifies you for after graduation?

Pizza delivery...

28 posted on 08/20/2011 8:11:06 AM PDT by Kenton (No hope, wrong change - Buck Ofama)
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To: Baynative
Shourd's mother has said she had been denied treatment for serious health problems, including a breast lump and precancerous cervical cells.

But, she was strong enough to go hiking in a war zone.

29 posted on 08/20/2011 8:13:17 AM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: macquire

Stupid is as stupid does!


30 posted on 08/20/2011 8:13:51 AM PDT by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: macquire

Sounds like a good lesson for them to learn.


31 posted on 08/20/2011 8:20:26 AM PDT by crosshairs (If Sharia Law becomes the law of the land, heads are gonna roll.)
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To: Gena Bukin
He should look at the silver lining. In eight years, he'll be fluent in Farsi as well.

The only words in Farsi he'll learn is "bend over my human goat".
32 posted on 08/20/2011 8:24:48 AM PDT by crosshairs (If Sharia Law becomes the law of the land, heads are gonna roll.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

They have probably already been “engaged” multiple times in prison, with no ring to show for it.


33 posted on 08/20/2011 8:26:58 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: Kenton

Ah, don’t you have to know which direction you are going to delivery pizza? Apparently these idiots don’t have a great sense of direction!


34 posted on 08/20/2011 8:29:54 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: macquire

They may be guilty of being stupid, of being incredibly naive, or they may have been up to something more than just hiking. Regardless of the reason they were there, the Obama administration isn’t doing anything on their behalf to try to secure their release. The President’s primary duty is to protect the citizens of this country. The message here is that foreign governments can do whatever they want to our people, and the U.S. will do absolutley nothing about it.


35 posted on 08/20/2011 8:34:22 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: macquire

Two fewer Obama voters for the next election.


36 posted on 08/20/2011 8:35:34 AM PDT by utax
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I rarely laugh out loud (really laugh out loud) to internet postings. Bravo!!


37 posted on 08/20/2011 8:37:54 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: ilovesarah2012
Does anyone know what “Peace Studies” qualifies you for after graduation?

Drone in some peacenik foundation. That or hostage.
38 posted on 08/20/2011 8:38:08 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Blade Runner was set in 2019. Except for the flying cars and replicants we're right on schedule.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Ah, don’t you have to know which direction you are going to delivery pizza? Apparently these idiots don’t have a great sense of direction!

You'd think that, or they could reach into their trust funds and buy a GPS. This is a weird case, isn't it? I mean, normally I'd be very upset if Americans were being held by Iran on trumped up charges.

But this is the kind of social Darwinism we haven't seen since Rachel Corrie made her little tactical misstep. About all I can muster up is a "silly hippies" and a shrug.

39 posted on 08/20/2011 8:47:35 AM PDT by Kenton (No hope, wrong change - Buck Ofama)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Does anyone know what “Peace Studies” qualifies you for after graduation?
Making Farsi license plates?

There were some pretty good responses to that question. Yours was the best. LOL!

40 posted on 08/20/2011 9:02:30 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: macquire

Hard to feel sorry for these wankers. The only good thing for them is Iran has no homosexuals.


41 posted on 08/20/2011 9:05:35 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Kenton
You'd think that, or they could reach into their trust funds and buy a GPS.

My vote is that this is the Iranians seizing hostages and banking them away for future trade. From what I have read, the border area that they were at is almost unmarked and it is easy to 'cross'. In fact it is possible that they did NOT cross but that the Iranians captured them in Iraq, but that has become a very moot point indeed.

42 posted on 08/20/2011 9:20:02 AM PDT by SES1066 (1776 to 2011, 235 years and counting in the GRAND EXPERIMENT!)
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To: yorkie

I was just thinking this was a repost - until I saw it was two usefull idiots instead of the three from last time.

I’m considering turning myself in to CBP as an illegal from Tahiti. Think they’ll send me home?


43 posted on 08/20/2011 11:20:46 AM PDT by HiJinx ("The wealthy and satisfied do not migrate, they stagnate." ~ Louis L'Amour)
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To: HiJinx

Nah, they won’t send you home - especially if you wear a turban!


44 posted on 08/20/2011 11:28:31 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie
I had a lava-lava in mind...


45 posted on 08/20/2011 11:39:24 AM PDT by HiJinx ("The wealthy and satisfied do not migrate, they stagnate." ~ Louis L'Amour)
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To: HiJinx
LOL! Well, it's worth a try!


46 posted on 08/20/2011 12:03:00 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie

” LESSON:

Tresspass into Iran - get arrested, lose 1/2 your body weight and end up in prison for 8 years.

Tresspass into the United States of America - get free food, subsidized housing, free education, free medical care, jobs, throw your trash everywhere, spit on the citizens, and you don’t even have to speak English. “

EXACTLY


47 posted on 08/20/2011 1:01:09 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: macquire

It’s too bad that they didn’t capture peace studies grad student Michael Moore. He could have used the weight reduction plan plus had 8 years to think of how to spin his next movie to show Iran had great health care.


48 posted on 08/21/2011 7:59:16 AM PDT by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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