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Dayton gun show arrests are proof that pro-gun rights advocates are right(OH)
Buckeye Firearms Association ^ | 19 August, 2011 | Gerard Valentino

Posted on 08/20/2011 8:10:56 AM PDT by marktwain

Recently, at a gun show in Dayton, Ohio several people were arrested for violating the law by buying a gun when they knew it was illegal for them to do so. As usual, the media tried to hang the arrests on gun show promoters and stirred up discussion about the mythical gun show loophole.

From the article:

"The gun show loophole is a deadly serious problem — and this undercover operation exposes just how pervasive and serious it is," New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said following the 2009 investigation funded by the city.

A fact that anti-gun zealots will never admit, however, is that gun sales are regulated the same regardless of location. So, whether someone buys or sells a gun at a gun show, or whether a grandfather gives a family heirloom shotgun to his grandson, the laws are the same. Mayor Bloomberg and people of his misguided ilk also refuse to admit that unbiased studies show criminals rarely buy guns at a gun show.

The pro-gun side of the gun debate chafes at the mere mention of the so-called gun show loophole because it is driven by the anti-gun movement's desire to destroy gun rights, to vilify gun shows, people that attend gun shows and the gun culture. Destroying gun shows and how they benefit the gun culture is the true goal of anti-gun leaders, not keeping criminals from buying guns.

Pro-gun advocates have also claimed that existing gun laws are more than adequate to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

By arresting people that knowingly bought a gun while under disability (in this case the word means being barred from owning a gun by law), law enforcement did the right thing, and that is the message that needs to be heard. The mere presence of law enforcement will also send a message to other criminals that gun shows are not the place to try and buy a gun illegally.

Law enforcement also needs to become more vigilant about stopping so-called "straw purchases," where someone that can legally purchase a gun through a licensed dealer does so with the intent of giving it to someone prohibited from owning a gun.

Whenever a criminal obtains a gun, society is put at risk, which is why gun owners and pro-gun advocates have a vested interest in keeping it from happening. It is particularly important that gun sellers are vigilant when selling a gun at a gun show because we all get a black-eye when someone gets caught in an illegal gun sale.

Oddly enough, if law enforcement begins to crack down on straw purchases and illegal buyers at gun shows it will prove that existing laws are adequate and the anti-gun movement will lose a key piece to their anti-freedom message. To that end, the anti-gun community continues to call for more regulation that can be easily bypassed by criminals. Yet another point that exposes their true aim, which is destroying all private ownership of firearms by making it nearly impossible to buy a gun legally.

When law enforcement stops an illegal gun purchase it is a reminder that proper enforcement of existing gun laws, as predicted by gun advocates, is a successful way to stop criminals from getting a gun. In most cases, such a policy also leaves honest citizens free to buy and sell guns without government interference - an outcome that is acceptable to everyone except gun control zealots.

Despite the successful application of gun laws in this case, the anti-gun side isn't satisfied. While they should be happy that several criminals were arrested before the guns they bought could be used in a crime, they are instead still crusading for more gun laws.

All the lies about merely wanting to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, or the mentally ill, are the first step in a bait-and-switch. In the end, only a complete ban on all private ownership of firearms will satisfy the anti-gun crowd. Nothing less will suffice – just as the pro-gun community has predicted.

Gerard Valentino, a former military intelligence analyst, is a member of the Buckeye Firearms Foundation Board of Directors and the author of "The Valentino Chronicles – Observations of a Middle Class Conservative," available through the Buckeye Firearms Association store. AddThis


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunshows; oh; private
The concept that the government could or should only “allow” certain people to buy guns stands the very concept of American jurisprudence on its head. It presumes that the government knows all, controls all, and should be doing so. It is wrong and ineffective. It is the opposite of preventing criminals from possessing guns.

It is crazy to set up a huge expensive bureaucratic system, require everyone to jump though hoops and prove that they are *not* criminals in order to try, ineffectively, to prevent the few individuals who are not responsible, from having legal access to guns. This is a failed paradigm, and it should be abandoned. To accept the idea that the all gun sales should be monitored by the government, and only allowed to those it deems satisfactory is fundamentally wrong.

The entire idea of the enterprise has always been the death of a thousand cuts, where the restrictions on who can buy, and where, and how and what are continually increased until the number of gun owners is reduced to political insignificance.

1 posted on 08/20/2011 8:11:01 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
A fact that anti-gun zealots will never admit, however, is that gun sales are regulated the same regardless of location.

The already know it. What they want it to prohibit the transfer of a firearm from one private citizen to another without being forced to go through an FFL.

2 posted on 08/20/2011 8:18:43 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: marktwain

I don’t like the idea that I am guilty of something before I buy an item and then have to prove I’m not.

How would it be if everyone had to prove they had never been arrested for a DUI before buying a car?

I am a Natural Born American Citizen and should be allowed to own, buy and carry any gun that I want to or feel the need for.

Feds, stay out of my personal life!!!


3 posted on 08/20/2011 8:27:56 AM PDT by Crazy ole coot (Freedom is NOT free. Thank our military for your freedoms!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“............What they want it to prohibit the transfer of a firearm from one private citizen to another without being forced to go through an FFL.”

I believe what they want is a cleared pathway to impose their will upon the rest of society. They are the Left, and that is their general philosophy, and agenda IMO.


4 posted on 08/20/2011 8:31:18 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Crazy ole coot

The Gun Control Act of 1968 and later incarnations, and the current Brady Bill “Instant Check” systems were designed and implemented as prototypes for a national registration system. In practice, Gun Registration becomes Gun Confiscation:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608785/posts


5 posted on 08/20/2011 8:33:27 AM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: marktwain

If anything, the government should supply each citizen a firearm at birth as a symbol of their birthright of freedom.


6 posted on 08/20/2011 9:08:15 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (I am Joe the Hobbit as well as a RINO. Who'd want to be a "real" Republican anyway?)
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To: marktwain
Communists agenda to enslave Americans by placing citizens in a box.
7 posted on 08/20/2011 9:17:05 AM PDT by Logical me
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The whole “straw buyer” thing is simply an attempt by the Federal gov’t to control who has a firearm. It does not and can not work unless the Feds can prohibit individual transfer of a firearm and require that all transfers go through the NICS/FFL dealer networks. I do not ever buy a firearm from a dealer! Therefore, all my firearms have be bought by “straw purchasers” because if they bought through a Federally licensed dealer and then sold/gave the firearm to me, they were literally a “straw” buyer. The only way for this rule of law to be effective is for the Feds to require a 4473 for all gun transfers.


8 posted on 08/20/2011 10:46:53 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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