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Rick Perry's Overhyped Immigration "Soft Spot" (Left-wing media defends Ricardo)
Mother Jones ^ | Tim Murphy

Posted on 08/20/2011 9:11:52 AM PDT by Tempest

One of Texas Gov. Rick Perry's biggest alleged weaknesses in the Republican presidential primary is his less-than-draconian record on immigration. Although Perry has talked a lot about cracking down on undocumented immigrants, he has done little to change Texas' status as a "sanctuary state" and, indeed, he's explicitly rejected the idea of implementing Arizona-style immigration reform. The reason for this is pretty simple: Texas' economic "miracle" is built on on a continued influx of people, as well as a preponderance of low-wage jobs, especially in the housing sector.

(Excerpt) Read more at motherjones.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration; laraza; laraza4perry; maldef; perry; perry4amnesty; perrybashers; perrytards; ricardo; texican
Thank goodness we have a candidate who's actively working to supress American wages with cheap foreign labor. That's the kind of cowboy pragmatism this country needs.
1 posted on 08/20/2011 9:11:57 AM PDT by Tempest
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To: Tempest

Texas’ economic “miracle” is built on on a continued influx of people,*******

If that’s the case, why isn’t the illegal influx creating boom times for California?


2 posted on 08/20/2011 9:16:14 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: bereanway

Because it’s utter and complete bull squat?


3 posted on 08/20/2011 9:17:58 AM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Cain, Palin, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: South40
Left-Wing media rushes to defend Rick Perry from 'Far Right'

The Associated Press gets in on the act as well.

Far right questions Rick Perry on immigration

Far right questions Rick Perry on immigration

4 posted on 08/20/2011 9:18:41 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: bereanway
If that’s the case, why isn’t the illegal influx creating boom times for California?

Why just California? How about 7/8 of the entire nation?

5 posted on 08/20/2011 9:19:49 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tempest
Thank goodness we have a candidate who's actively working to supress American wages with cheap foreign labor. That's the kind of cowboy pragmatism this country needs

Thank goodness we have conservatives who are actively working to supress American wages with a second Obama term. That's the kind of electoral pragmatism this country needs

6 posted on 08/20/2011 9:20:06 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to...." ;)
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To: Tempest

I wouldn’t expect a lot on the way of moral courage from the Perry Cheerleaders.


7 posted on 08/20/2011 9:20:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: hobbes1

Really you mean there are no other MORE CONSERVATIVE candidates running for President?!

Ohhh noeessss!!!


8 posted on 08/20/2011 9:21:49 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Grunthor

From an earlier thread;

-Richard Fisher, President and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas said on Wednesday that Texas has in fact created good paying jobs.

“…these jobs are not low-paying jobs. The average weekly wage in the education and health services sector is $790; in the professional and business services sector it is $1,117; and in the mining sector, the average weekly wage is $2,271. Together these three sectors account for 68 percent of the jobs that have been created in Texas in the past two years,” Fisher said-

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2766509/posts


9 posted on 08/20/2011 9:22:34 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Tempest
The reason for this is pretty simple: Texas' economic "miracle" is built on on a continued influx of people, as well as a preponderance of low-wage jobs, especially in the housing sector.

The hard data completely explodes the above myth

The analysis is compiled by someone who doesn't support Perry.

10 posted on 08/20/2011 9:22:49 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Tempest
"Left-Wing media rushes to defend Rick Perry from 'Far Right"

I guess mittens is no longer the lamestream medias darling.

11 posted on 08/20/2011 9:23:27 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: cripplecreek

So far I’ve found their willing disconnect from reality to be quite amusing. But I live in Los Angeles so I’m used to it.


12 posted on 08/20/2011 9:24:33 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Tempest

Aside from the snide remarks in this Liberal Rag article... oddly enough I find is fairly accurate.. Perry - for 10 years has TALKED - TALKED - TALKED and Postured on nearly every aspect of controlling Illegal Aliens and securing the border - and has DONE next to nothing. I have a number of Hispanic friends on my Facebook page who are outraged that many Republican Presidential candidates totally believe that the vast majority of Hispanic/Latinos are in direct support of illegal immigration and vis a vie Illegal Aliens. But Establishment Republicans and converted Democrats like Perry are not going to listen to Conservative Americans - whether they are White or Black or of the ethnic origins of Hispanic / Latino. That’s just the FACTS Jack...


13 posted on 08/20/2011 9:30:54 AM PDT by ICCtheWay (S)
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To: AAABEST
I looked at your link and the author states the following:

I tried to be clear above that this chart doesn't account for the fluid nature of an economy with immigration and departures of hundreds of thousands of people, but I don't want to leave anyone with the wrong impression. So here it is: This chart doesn't account for the fluid nature of an economy with immigrations and departures of hundreds of thousands of people. The point of this chart is not to say "Texas should have 2.3% unemployment if only things were fair." Instead, it is an attempt to chart job growth in such a way that controls for people leaving one job market to enter another. To say "Wisconsin has a better job market than Texas because its unemployment rate is 0.6% lower" is a wholly untrue statement even though it cites accurate numbers. What this chart is meant to do is not posit a counter-factual, but to give a visual representation of the employment reality that is obscured by the way we calculate unemployment numbers.

So apparently there is NO myth busting going on there. since it wasn't even a factor in his own estimates...

14 posted on 08/20/2011 9:33:35 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Tempest
In 2001, Texas under Perry, became the first state in the country to pass an in-state tuition law for illegal aliens. The law created a national movement.

Texas became the first state to pass an in-state tuition law for illegals

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Study: 70% of Texas’ illegal immigrant families receive welfare

In Texas, 54 percent of legal immigrants and 70 percent of illegal immigrants receive welfare assistance

Texas showed 61 percent of households headed by an immigrant utilizing at least one program compared to the 42 percent of Texas natives on welfare.

Study: 70% of Texas’ illegal immigrant families receive welfare

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If this isn’t enough, there are about 1000 anchor babies per month being churned out at Dallas Parkland Hospital...That is just one hospital in Texas, every month.

In Parkland Memorial Hospital Dallas, the second busiest maternity ward in the United States, 70% of the women giving birth were illegal aliens.

That added up to 11,200 babies for which Medicaid kicked in 34.5 million dollars to deliver these babies, the feds another 9.5 million and Dallas taxpayers tossed in 31.3 million. The average illegal patient is 25 years and giving birth to her second anchor baby.

Dallas Parkland Hospital 70% of the women giving birth were illegal aliens. Almost 1000 per month

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Rick Perry's Texas jobs boom: The whole story

Texas leads the nation in minimum-wage jobs, and many positions don't offer health benefits. Also, steep budget cuts are expected to result in the loss of more than 100,000 jobs.

Many of the positions that have been created are on the lower end of the pay scale. Some 550,000 workers last year were paid at or below the federal minimum wage of $7.25, more than double the number making those wages in 2008, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

That's 9.5% of the Texas workforce, which gives it the highest percentage of minimum-wage workers in the nation -- a dubious title it shares with Mississippi.

Perry signed a budget in May that slashes $15 billion in government spending over the next two years. Also, the federal stimulus funds that poured into the state since 2009 have largely dried up… The state budget cuts alone could result in the loss of more than 100,000 jobs, many of them in the public sector

Rick Perry's Texas jobs boom: The whole story

15 posted on 08/20/2011 9:47:59 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tempest
Left-Wing media rushes to defend Rick Perry from 'Far Right'

Seen all this before.

Those that question a candidates leftists liberal policies, will be labeled a liberal themselves..

In a country gone mad...

16 posted on 08/20/2011 9:50:25 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tempest
Perhaps I should have been more clear or edited the excerpt better. Let me try again. From the OP:

...as well as a preponderance of low-wage jobs, especially in the housing sector.

It's the "McJobs" (a term we haven't heard since Maobama took office) myth that the data at the link destroys. From the analysis:

But the implication here is that the new jobs in Texas, the jobs that Texas seems to stand alone in creating at such a remarkable pace, are low paying jobs and don't really count.

If this were true, all these new low-paying jobs should be dragging down the wages data, right? But if we look at the wages data since the beginning of the recession...

And it turns out that the opposite is true. Since the recession started hourly wages in Texas have increased at a 6th fastest pace in the nation.

As a side note, the only blue state that has faster growing wages is Hawaii.

17 posted on 08/20/2011 9:56:07 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Tempest

It won’t do any good to run a more conservative candidate if they can’t beat Obama.


18 posted on 08/20/2011 10:00:08 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

With the way Obama is going a paper bag will be able to beat him by this time next year.


19 posted on 08/20/2011 10:13:51 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Tempest

Paulturds seem to hang out at the far left websites and mags. Guess that just goes along with the “larry flint” ad you all are running and the big bucks filtering in from Russia and support from soros to the little “so far right, he’s coming around the left” weasel.

What next?? links to DU? or DNC?

Ronpaul supporters should very proud.


20 posted on 08/20/2011 10:14:29 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Tempest

I sure hope so but he’ll have 300,000 illegals voting for him. LOL


21 posted on 08/20/2011 10:16:28 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Tempest
The big party political candidate for rank and file insiders and assorted party groupies has already been chosen...They quickly followed behind in lockstep.

The campaign cheerleading threads for this guy will be non-stop for many months...Suddenly, if you don't support him, you'll be labeled a troll, or Communist or whatever, quickly reaching the point where nothing but praise and total supported will be accepted or tolerated.

22 posted on 08/20/2011 10:24:12 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Tempest

BS

The Sanctuary City Bill was gutted in the State Senate.
Pressure from Big GOP donor Perry homes (no relation to Gov), and HEB grocery chain dum donor were responsible for the failure.

So we have yet ANOTHER lie being spread by the propagandist.


23 posted on 08/20/2011 10:32:49 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: ilovesarah2012
It won’t do any good to run a more conservative candidate if they can’t beat Obama.

Submit your list of conservatives that Republicans want to vote for in the primary, and that can win the Republican primary, but are "too" conservative for you.

24 posted on 08/20/2011 10:38:03 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: Marty62
From Pesky Truth:
[Offering illegal aliens in-state tuition] is true. Perry signed the bill six years ago. Under the law, any student who has lived in Texas at least three years and graduated from a Texas high school qualifies for in-state tuition. The law also requires noncitizens to apply for citizenship. “I’m for leaving the law like it is because I think it serves a good purpose,” Perry said. Texas was one of the first states to pass an in-state tuition bill for illegal immigrants. Ten states currently have such laws, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. About 12,138 children of immigrants got in-state tuition in 2009, about 1 percent of students in Texas trade schools, colleges, and universities. Of that number, 8,406 were in community and technical schools, only 3,725 at universities, and 7 at health-related institutes. Read a good summary of the current status of this issue here at a Dallas Morning News (http://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/headlines/20100314-Number-of-illegal-immigrants-getting-in-9925.ece) article. Critics have said it gives a financial advantage to illegal immigrants while U.S. citizens who are not Texas residents still must pay out-of-state tuition rates, which are higher. Personally, I don’t like giving illegals a favorable tuition rate over other state’s legal residents. I understand his reasoning, but I don’t have to like it. I do think that there was some pandering to the Mexican immigrants (legal and illegal) behind the overwhelming votes for this bill. As a measure of Texas’ version of the “Dream Act,” popularity, it should be noted that it passed the Texas Senate with NO “no” votes – Perry was not out on a limb on this one, it was overwhelmingly supported. It should also be noted that the Texas “Dream” act should not be confused with the federal version. The Texas version relates to higher education only whereas the federal act would facilitate giving legal status to children who entered the U.S. illegally with their parents.
Source: http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/ And I am okay with this. It sounds reasonable because it gets more people into Texas schools, and encourages those who would otherwise be on the edges of society to obtain legal status and contribute to the economy. And one other thing... 3,700 people at state universities isn't going to negatively affect my child's chances of getting an education either.
25 posted on 08/20/2011 10:42:34 AM PDT by bullypulpit
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To: bullypulpit

You expect people to take the postings on a Blog as factual?

Moving on.


26 posted on 08/20/2011 10:48:35 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Marty62

It is a blog, but well-referenced. The blogger links to all assertions. I found the content of the blog refreshing. I wish The Texas Tribune or even the Dallas Morning News conducted that kind of research.

http://peskytruth.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/rick-perrys-negatives/


27 posted on 08/20/2011 10:56:03 AM PDT by bullypulpit
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To: dragnet2

Let’s see... Which bastions of conservatism have so far come out in support of RINO Ricky?

NPR? Check.
PBS? Check.
Salon.com? Check.
Mother Jones? Check.

But the FReepers less than supportive of having this slapshod loser shoved down our throats? Oh, WE’RE the liberals and leftists?

Did I fall asleep and wake up on planet Kolob?


28 posted on 08/20/2011 11:01:09 AM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: dragnet2

It’s another GWB ramrodding session. People never learn


29 posted on 08/20/2011 11:14:28 AM PDT by Tempest (Ruining the day of corporate butt kissers everywhere.)
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To: Tempest
Perry must be such a fake that Mother Jones blog writer finds him a fine alternative to Obama. He must think that an Obama/Perry matchup is a win win since Obama and Perry are so similar. That must be why they write pro Perry storied in case their hard left dope smoking hippie readers want another option come November, Perry is obviously it.

sarcasm still on

30 posted on 08/20/2011 11:19:29 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Tempest

lol. Sheesh even the left loves RIck Perry. No wonder some insane FREEPERS here are supporting him. I always suspect that DU members come over to FR to disrupt the place. Every one of the Perry supporters are from DU. Why would the Democrats support Perry??????? One question that should be asked.


31 posted on 08/20/2011 11:22:33 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: ansel12

No one is too conservative for me. The more conservative, the better, but if they can’t beat Obama, it will be all for naught.


32 posted on 08/20/2011 11:30:35 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Submit your list of conservatives that Republicans want to vote for in the primary,
that can win the Republican presidential primary,
but that you want us to knock out in advance, in anticipation that as the republican nominee, they cannot defeat the democrat.


33 posted on 08/20/2011 11:34:33 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


34 posted on 08/20/2011 11:42:18 AM PDT by HiJinx ("The wealthy and satisfied do not migrate, they stagnate." ~ Louis L'Amour)
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To: ansel12

Don’t know. We have a long way to go. I doubt Bachmann can win and I know I won’t vote for Romney. We’ll see who else gets into the race.


35 posted on 08/20/2011 11:45:31 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Tempest

With the way Obama is going a paper bag will be able to beat him by this time next year.


If so choose wisely ......

The “INS”

Bachmann .. Cain .. Gringrich .. Greenspon
Huntsman .. Johnson .. Krager .. Martin
McCotter .. McMillan .. Miller .. Moore
Paul .. Perry .. Roemer .. Romney
Santorum .. Wuensche


36 posted on 08/20/2011 11:52:59 AM PDT by deport ( In Texas it's hotter than two goats fighting in a jalapeno patch.)
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To: napscoordinator

The left loves all things muslim and illegal. Perry loves all things muslim and illegal also. So there ya go. He has a disgraceful record for all to see, if they care to look, regarding his supporting and pandering of and to illegals and the muslims. I do not think Perry supporters are from the DUmp tho, that is flat out wrong naps. I just think they have not looked over this Perry fella close enough, that’s all.


37 posted on 08/20/2011 5:07:17 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Tempest

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/08/perryaga-curriculum-shocking-example-of-islamic-propaganda-forced-upon-unsuspecting-students-attendi.html

RICK PERRY AND ISLAMIC PROPAGANDA GO HAND IN HAND, GO TO THE LINK AND READ FOR YOURSELF!!


38 posted on 08/20/2011 5:13:01 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon

Holy SH$T RB!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew Perry was a muslim lover but damn! Good God, we are so screwed if this guy gets in.


39 posted on 08/20/2011 5:50:46 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: ilovesarah2012

If it’s Perry vs Obama, then it’s an easy choice...Perry all the way. Same goes for just about anyone the GOP might nominate.

But just once it would be nice to have a candidate who is conservative on immigration. I don’t think we’ve had one since Coolidge, or Eisenhower. We are not going to win the Hispanic vote. The question is how badly we will lose it, and if we can do better with whites by pursuing conservative immigration reform.

Bush was a shameless panderer, and the best he could manage with the allegedly natural conservative latino vote was maybe 40% in 2004 (he did NOT win 44% as was first incorrectly claimed). The GOP can either enact conservative immigration reform (i.e. reduce legal immigration and no path to citizenship for illegals) and have a fighting chance going forward, or they can continue to accept unending mass immigration and face demographic oblivion.


40 posted on 08/20/2011 9:58:21 PM PDT by Aetius
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