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Birth Control, Contraception Donít Stop Abortion, Help Women
Life News ^ | 8/19/11 | Kristan Hawkins

Posted on 08/20/2011 1:53:21 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
You do realize that Free Republic is a PRO-LIFE forum right?

I think "we" have taken a march a couple of klicks beyond the anti-abortion agenda, in a way that invites ridicule, which is my point.

101 posted on 08/20/2011 6:11:03 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: kaila

You wrote:

“I took it most of my life, and it has not hurt me at all.”

Well, your attitude and intelligence could use some work.


102 posted on 08/20/2011 6:11:43 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: wagglebee

Birth control does not equal abortion.

You and I have had this conversation before, wagglebee. These only result in hurt feelings, division and bashing of various religious groups.

Millions of us grew up in a culture (Protestant, evangelical) where sex is only licit within marriage and elective abortion is never an option, while responsible contraception is acceptable. If a pregnancy occurs on birth control, we would never have an abortion.

Contraception does function to space children and to prevent pregnancy. The key is whether or not the couple believe that every child is human from fertilization. This is where we should work to change minds (and laws). I like my line about “If you break the egg of a bird on the Endangered Species list, it won’t matter that the bird was an embryo or couldn’t live outside the egg. You’ve still broken Federal law.)

Barrier methods like the condom and diaphragm, as well as sterilization can never harm a child.

True contraception does not interfere with the implantation or development of an embryo. The corpus luteum, the tissue left behind at the ovary after ovulation, produces hormones in higher numbers than those resulting from oral or injectables.

I have tons of original articles concerning Plan B and daily oral contraceptives that I’ll email to anyone requesting - send me a FReepmail with your email address.


103 posted on 08/20/2011 6:13:12 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: surroundedbyblue
You just don’t get it do you?

You don't get it, do you? You don't get a 14% pregnancy rate per try from randomly timed acts of unprotected sex. The use of patently absurd statistics just invites the kind of ridicule I have attempted to deliver, but to which you seem immune, sadly since the guffawing from those not quite so firmly entrenched in conservative principles will do the conservative cause no good.

104 posted on 08/20/2011 6:14:35 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: UCANSEE2

Breast milk never causes cancer.


105 posted on 08/20/2011 6:15:48 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: vladimir998
your attitude and intelligence could use some work

Please considered this added to the list I assembled in post #63.

106 posted on 08/20/2011 6:17:30 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Do you know where the idea for Acorn came from? SDS? The movie explains it. You are only looking to fight and ridicule. I’m truly sorry that you are not looking for info to beat the “Progressives”. Honest. With people like you, we will lose.


107 posted on 08/20/2011 6:18:40 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: hocndoc

You wrote:

“Millions of us grew up in a culture (Protestant, evangelical) where sex is only licit within marriage and elective abortion is never an option, while responsible contraception is acceptable.”

Yep, culture. Culture of death.

Protestant who excuses anti-Christian activity like birth control please meet Protestants Against Birth Control: http://www.missionariestopreborn.com/birth_control.html


108 posted on 08/20/2011 6:20:54 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: hocndoc

Woefully uninformed & relativistic


109 posted on 08/20/2011 6:21:28 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: little jeremiah
The connection between abortions and breast cancer is real

The more recent articles I came across in this search call that into question. I refer you to this study, in Archives of Internal Medicine, and the ACOG committee statement here , and the National Cancer Institute statement. There are similar statements from Cancer.org, etc. I thought I had read something more recent that did affirm the link, but I can't find anything like that now. Given that, I must regard it as unproven and questionable.

110 posted on 08/20/2011 6:22:27 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: miss marmelstein; UCANSEE2

That post was terribly inaccurate. The breast cancer abortion connection is not due to left over hormones or breast milk. It’s most likely due to cell changes toward breast milk production. The process is not carried to the end unless there’s a full term pregnancy.

The immature cells that become abnormal and may continue to divide, until some of them become abnormal enough to be cancer.

The good news is that subsequent pregnancies can mitigate this effect in some women.

However, women with a family history of breast cancer need to know that abortion can increase their risk.


111 posted on 08/20/2011 6:23:22 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org)(I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.)(RIAing))
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To: AndyJackson

Patently absurd stats? YOU are the one who seems immune to facts & truth.

You, sir, are a moral relativist. And people like you, who embrace a death culture will never restore the nation to what it once was.


112 posted on 08/20/2011 6:23:28 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: AndyJackson

Nah, I’ll stick with the list in 62 instead.


113 posted on 08/20/2011 6:23:46 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: DJ MacWoW
I’m truly sorry that you are not looking for info to beat the “Progressives”.

"Burn a condom and kill a progressive." Needs a bit of work, but it could catch on.

Do your realize how ridiculous you are being?

114 posted on 08/20/2011 6:24:43 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: little jeremiah

There was definitely an article in the British Medical Journal about it, which I think (don’t quote me) got picked up by either Nature or Sci American.
Went through this years issues of the BMJ, not there, will dig through 07 to 10 in the morning. Tis long past my bed time here!


115 posted on 08/20/2011 6:24:43 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: hocndoc

It’s not just abortion that increases breast cancer, but the Pill, which was listed by the WHO as a Class 1 carcinogen. What do you have to say about that since you see no issue with birth control in your marriage?

What man would want to put his wife at risk like that for his own pleasure? Sheesh.


116 posted on 08/20/2011 6:26:18 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: surroundedbyblue
And people like you, who embrace a death culture

Who is embracing a death culture?

117 posted on 08/20/2011 6:26:18 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
Give the post number where I EVER mentioned condoms. This is the second request.

You are using something that I never said to deflect having to discuss a documentary. How pathetic is that?

118 posted on 08/20/2011 6:30:05 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: sometime lurker; EnglishCon

Did you see wagglebee’s links in comment 62?

Are you aware that feminism/the abortion industry are extremely influential?


119 posted on 08/20/2011 6:32:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: kaila
Women aren't abused now?

Maybe you think single-motherhood and a career as a state-subsidized extended-stay hooker is something other than abuse?

120 posted on 08/20/2011 6:37:03 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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