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EU: Finland destabilizes bailout plan
Presseurop ^ | 8/19/2011

Posted on 08/20/2011 3:19:53 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

‘Finland puts bomb under EU bailout plans’, headlines De Volkskrant, reporting on Finland's demand that Greece put up collateral against Helsinki's participation in the Greek bailout. According to the Dutch newspaper, the two countries have now struck a deal, and four others – Austria, the Netherlands, Slovakia and Slovenia – are now demanding similar guarantees, leading to fears for the stability of the July 21 agreement to save Greece.

In the Netherlands several MPs have already asked the finance minister to take action. De Volkskrant says it is unclear what Greece could offer as collateral to Finland. Probably not islands or railroads: more likely a cash payment of €0.5bn-1bn. Because Greece has no money of its own, the paper fears that the deposit will have to come from the European fund.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 08/20/2011 3:19:55 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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Collateral is in order. I would suggest the Elgin Marbles. They are ancient perfection and of immense, imeasurable valuec


2 posted on 08/20/2011 3:26:04 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: bruinbirdman

Proving once again that the whole bailout is impossible. If everyone’s broke, they can’t bail each other out except in a big check-kiting scheme.


3 posted on 08/20/2011 3:31:26 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: bert
A bunch of islands in the Mediterranean are of far more worth to Finland than any statuary. Can you just imagine at Midsummer (the major vacation time for All Scandinavians) the Finns can travel to a Greek Island where ONLY THEY are present!

I'd bet they'd give the Greeks an island of comparable size somewhere in the Gulf of Bothnia ~ any time!

4 posted on 08/20/2011 3:33:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bruinbirdman

Demanding collateral is smart, but the problem is that other than Ouzo, Greece doesn’t produce anything, and has nothing in the entire Country that is worth what these loans cost.


5 posted on 08/20/2011 3:37:12 PM PDT by Bean Counter ("For every man there exists a bait he cannot resist swallowing.".....Nietzsche)
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To: bruinbirdman

And what will our creditors require of us?


6 posted on 08/20/2011 3:38:12 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: bert
Collateral is in order. I would suggest the Elgin Marbles. They are ancient perfection and of immense, imeasurable valuec

Unfortunately the Elgin Marbles are in the British Museum.

Perhaps the Parthenon instead. Of the Greeks default the Finns pack it up and move it to Helsinki.

7 posted on 08/20/2011 3:42:32 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Blade Runner was set in 2019. Except for the flying cars and replicants we're right on schedule.)
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To: muawiyah
I'd bet they'd give the Greeks an island of comparable size somewhere in the Gulf of Bothnia ~ any time!

The best collateral: if the Greeks default they trade countries. The Finns move to Greece, all the Greeks move to Finland.
8 posted on 08/20/2011 3:46:11 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Blade Runner was set in 2019. Except for the flying cars and replicants we're right on schedule.)
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-——Unfortunately the Elgin Marbles are in the British Museum.——

Which is why they make great Greek Collateral. On default the creditors will have to make the Brits cough them up


9 posted on 08/20/2011 3:46:36 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: bruinbirdman

The Finns are blockheads but my Dad told me that they were the ONLY country to pay back their loans to our country following the 2nd World War and had his respect.


10 posted on 08/20/2011 3:47:03 PM PDT by ynotjjr (It's called the Constitution. Learn it, live it, love it!)
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Other than sunburns and skin cancer, the Finns would jump at the deal. The Greeks would freeze to death the first winter and would no longer be a problem.

I saw they’ve got a new guaranteed cure sort of treatment for skin melanoma ~ just in time for some serious negotiations with the Finns.


11 posted on 08/20/2011 3:51:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Rocky
a big check-kiting scheme.

It's only called that when the little people do it. When corporations or governments do it, it's called "finance."

12 posted on 08/20/2011 3:51:34 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Bean Counter
Demanding collateral is smart, but the problem is that other than Ouzo, Greece doesn’t produce anything, and has nothing in the entire Country that is worth what these loans cost.

Greece has lots of land that could be valuable, if inhabited exclusively by people who wanted to work. Take some islands, move the Greeks off, and make the islands forever-more Finn territory. Move a bunch of Finns with rifles there.

13 posted on 08/20/2011 3:52:30 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: muawiyah
>> the Finns can travel to a Greek Island where ONLY THEY are present <<

What about those notorious Finnish gals who go to Greece for the Greek Experience?

14 posted on 08/20/2011 3:54:42 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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>> The Finns are blockheads <<

So that’s why they were so successful in fighting the Russians to a standstill during the Winter War?


15 posted on 08/20/2011 3:57:18 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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They can just as easily check out nearby Turkey for the “Turkish Experience”.


16 posted on 08/20/2011 3:58:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bruinbirdman

Where’s the European fund getting the money? American taxpayers?


17 posted on 08/20/2011 4:00:19 PM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: bert
When last I checked, the magnificent Elgin* Marbles were still on public display at British Museum in London where they have been since 1801 when the British ambassador to Turkey, Lord Elgin, brought them from Athens (then part of the muslim Ottoman Empire). Given the Greeks’ impecunious ways, I can't imagine they'll be back on the Acropolis any time soon.

For that matter, much of the ancient marble architecture and statuary that remains in Greece is reportedly deteriorated horribly from the effects of local air pollution, poor maintenance, and indifferent stewardship.

*Apparently, Greeks don't like to hear these national treasures referred to as “Elgin” marbles and prefer the term “Parthenon Marbles”.

18 posted on 08/20/2011 4:01:31 PM PDT by Mobties (Reduce the government footprint! Let the markets work!)
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So that’s why they were so successful in fighting the Russians to a standstill during the Winter War?

Yes. If they had any sense, they would have given in on the front end rather than fight a loosing war and having the same result as the Reds originally sought.

19 posted on 08/20/2011 4:19:24 PM PDT by PAR35
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>> rather than fight a loosing war <<

Uh, sorry pal, but you need to brush up on your history. The Finns didn’t lose the Winter War. They inflicted huge losses on the Russkis and basically achieved a stalemate.

The result was that Finland thwarted the Soviet plan to take over their entire country. I’d say that was quite an admirable accomplishment for a country of about 4 million, going up against the USSR’s 100+ million.


20 posted on 08/20/2011 4:27:53 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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