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Perry defends stance on Fed, immigration
Political Ticker - CNN ^ | 082011 | Shawna Shepherd

Posted on 08/21/2011 4:30:39 PM PDT by Fred

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As governor of the state that shares the largest border with Mexico, Perry defended his record on immigration, including his support for allowing illegal immigrants to get in-state tuition rates at Texas universities but opposing such a law on a national level.

"I'm a big believer in the 10th amendment," Perry said. "Whether they allow for tuition increases or decreases or whatever it might be in that state, it needs to be the states making that decisions."

Perry wouldn't wade into a national immigration reform debate, deferring to his position that those decisions should be made on the state level, "not by the federal government making one size-fits-all."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arizona; everify; illegals; janbrewer; laraza; maldef; perry; perrytards; rinofreeamerica; sb1070; shootingfromthelip; texas; texican
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To: hosepipe

I don’t know the details of all he said but I know that he talked about troops on the border and suggested using drones to identify and track border crashers. One huge difference that I have noticed between Republicans and ‘rats is that the Rs tend to respond if people make enough noise. I remember when Bush did his big amnesty push in 2006 and everybody raised hell. He ended up dropping it and we got promised a border fence, which the ‘rats promptly killed when they took over Congress. Contrast that to what happened when we the people raised even more hell about Obamacare. We got it shoved down our throats anyways because that is how the ‘rats roll. Look at how Obama and the ‘rats are responding to the call by the majority of citizens to reduce spending, they are spending faster. Any Republican that gets elected President will be better than Obama or any other ‘rat on every single issue and also much more responsive to the citizen’s wishes. I really believe that to be true.


51 posted on 08/21/2011 7:17:00 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Fred

Wrong Governor perry. the States rights are to those citizens of its states. Your advancing of perceived or real benefits to foreign citizens is a defacto treaty which is the exclusive realm of the President and the Senate. Each person you allow monies from Texas Taxpayers to from a foreign nation now has the agreement with texas and their nation by virtue of their foreign national status. in other words...its completly illegal.


52 posted on 08/21/2011 7:19:04 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Kartographer

Hey Kart, greetings from the high mountains of The ‘American Redoubt’! “Enabler”?? you have that right! He is 100%! Then also there is the fraud Perry’s muslim ‘problem’ that none of his supporters wish to speak about, or want us to bring up. How in God’s name can any true conservative politician support and pander openly to the people who follow the ‘Religion’ that attacked us on 9/11? We are so screwed if this phony is the best we can do as the the Repub’s. top spot pick next Pres. election.


53 posted on 08/21/2011 7:19:32 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: hellbender
>> Meanwhile, Perry blames the Feds for not closing the border in his state. Typical Tricky Rick tactic, trying to have it both ways. <<

Rick Perry groupies basically have two talking points:

1) EVERY controversal issue on the planet (gay marriage, abortion on demand, etc.) is the SOLE responsibility of the states and can be magically resolved if we simply "send it back to the states" and wash our hands of it. (worked great for slavery, didn't it?). However, the EXCEPTION to this rule is Texas' ability to secure their OWN border. According to Rick Perry groupies, that is COMPLETELY the federal government's job and Rick Perry shares absolutely NO blame for the zillions of illegals living comfortably in his state! Texas has NO right to pass an AZ-style immigration law. The buck DOESN'T stop there!

2) No one's record is perfect. Therefore, if you criticize Perry's record in ANY way because he did a mediocre job, you're a "purist" who wants "perfection". However, the EXCEPTION to this rule is that Sarah Palin's endorsement record IS perfect and if she endorsed someone for Governor, that makes them the ideal Presidential candidate and the second coming of Reagan. NO ONE may question Sarah Palin's endorsements (forget about that little endorsement she made for McCain's re-election last year)

Schizophrenic bunch, aren't they? ;-)

54 posted on 08/21/2011 7:20:21 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Perry is not Bush. He has put Texas assets on the border which Bush never did and he has asked the feds to put troops on the border and I don’t remember Bush doing that either. He may not be as tough on this issue as many would like but he is better than Bush was.


55 posted on 08/21/2011 7:32:47 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: comebacknewt
There are more than one attacks on our country going on. Refusing to enforce immigration laws is one attack. We can lose our country with Obama/Democrat socialism and we can lose it with Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama immigration policies.

Soft on immigration, we can afford 4 or 8 more years.

Deal breaker, if true.

56 posted on 08/21/2011 7:55:13 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Mariner; TexMom7
Put up a deouble walled fence with a road between them...armed observation posts ever 400yds. Trucks every 5 miles.

What's your plan, Mariner? Are you going to fill the Rio Grande with cement so you can build your fantasy wall and road?

57 posted on 08/21/2011 8:00:42 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: jospehm20; BillyBoy
Perry is not Bush. He has put Texas assets on the border which Bush never did and he has asked the feds to put troops on the border and I don’t remember Bush doing that either. He may not be as tough on this issue as many would like but he is better than Bush was.

Sorry but throwing money away at a problem using ineffective methods proves nothing. Bush did the same thing.

The problem is that Perry is against everything that would actually solve the problem, everything that is effective:

1. E-Verify
2. Interior Enforcement like AZ1070 that would actually make uncomfortable to be here, hard to find a job.
3. Border Wall/Fence.



Then he makes he hands out candy, so to speak, in the form of in-state tuition for Illegals already here, effectively putting out the welcome mat and saying with a wink and a nod, it's OK, we're really not all that serious about keeping Illegal Immigrants out of Texas.

You then couple that with the low-income social programs he has implemented with no controls in them to keep Illegals from getting state level benefits they have no right to and all Perry is saying to Illegals is, come on over, you're welcome!

So instead of actually fixing the issue, we get a bunch of nonsensical platitudes from Perry, and him actually making it worse by putting the welcome mat out.
58 posted on 08/21/2011 8:48:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Jabba the Nutt
If I believed Perry would do nothing to seal our borders, it would be a deal breaker for me too.

I don't believe that to be so, however. Why else did Perry try repeatedly to meet with President Obama about border control only to be rebuffed each time?

59 posted on 08/21/2011 8:49:00 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: TexMom7
He is against a fence because it will not work - and many agree especially here in Texas. I agree also. It would be a huge expense to put up a 1200+ mile fence and it would be a waste of money.

Says who?

And what do you mean will not work?

Would it be effective in lessoning the number of Illegal Immigrants sneaking across the border?

Would it make it harder having to get across a fence that is also patrolled by border patrol agents?

You betcha it would!
60 posted on 08/21/2011 8:51:03 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: TexMom7
E-Verify is a joke.

Another nonsensicle illogical statement from a Perry Apologist.

So forcing employers to use E-Verify to validate someones citizenship and then BY LAW, forcing them not to hire someone who fails E-Verify under penalty of jail-time won't be effective?

What are you, brain-dead?
61 posted on 08/21/2011 8:53:19 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: comebacknewt

Why else did Perry try repeatedly to meet with President Obama about border control only to be rebuffed each time?

Perry wanted national guard there....more people and equipment...and the federal government to assume a good deal of the expense to do that. Obama wasn’t interested in spending anymore money there.

But perry wasn’t interested either in closing the border.


62 posted on 08/21/2011 8:53:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: TexMom7
He was NOT against AZ1070 at all. He just felt like parts of it were not right for Texas. He did not want Texas State Patrol Officers becoming Border Agents. He said it would take away from the job they had to do.

So tell me TexMom7, don't DPS and Texas Rangers take an oath to uphold the US Constitution, and the Laws of the United States, and the laws of Texas?
63 posted on 08/21/2011 8:54:52 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: TexMom7
He was for the Sanctuary City Law this last legislative session but our law makers in Texas did not pass it. He put it back on the table for consideration when he called a special session and they again did not pass it. However, the photo id for driver license passed within the state budget but a Fed judge halted it. The one thing that did get through our legislature which he signed was a voter id - this eliminates illegals from voting in Texas.

Sorry, but like so much of the hypocritical nonsense that comes out of Perry's mouth concerning Illegal Immigration, this is so much nonsense.

It is so much nonsense because the policies already in place for the DPS for dealing with Illegal Aliens are almost exactly the same as those already in place for Houston, a city Perry and his staff has called a Sanctuary City.

Until Rick "Open-Borders" Perry changes those DPS policies, this is just campaing pandering on his part and the height of hypocracy.
64 posted on 08/21/2011 8:58:47 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: bobby.223
Then also there is the fraud Perry’s muslim ‘problem’ that none of his supporters wish to speak about, or want us to bring up..... How in God’s name can any true conservative politician support and pander openly to the people who follow the ‘Religion’ that attacked us on 9/11?

I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out why Perry's supporters here on FR are supressing and avoiding Perry's involvement and support with the Muslim/Islamic groups and leaders.

The only thing I have come up with is...if they agree it would be an unwelcomed problem then they would also have to question why they've supported his Governance for so long......without protesting Perry's involvement with Islamic Leaders etc.

But I have to say it does appear they've been well aware all along of the Muslim infilitration to their state, school system and governance, and Perry's involvement with....and are fine with this.

Having looked on line at some of their Mosques and Islamic Centers...it is obvious not only are they welcoming to Muslims...but some Texans are already changing their faith to Islam.

It's a very bad situation Texans have yet to see the extent of danger they have put their state in....and by doing so the rest of this nation.

65 posted on 08/21/2011 9:13:48 PM PDT by caww
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To: SoConPubbie

I think a lot of your beef may be with the feds. Since Texas is not the only state with this problem, I am under the impression that the federal government encourages or requires states to make “assiatnce” (welfare) available to illegals. That being said, Perry is not as tough as I would like on illegals. No candidate that is likely to win the nomination is very good on it in my view. Perry has the longest record with it because he has been governor of Texas, a border state, for over a decade so he will catch the most flak for it. Can you name another Republican Presidential candidate who has taken more concrete steps than Perry to curb illegal immigration?


66 posted on 08/21/2011 9:16:07 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20
Bush isn't President or running for. Need to compare with current candidates.

The facts are clear that Perry will indeed use Government funds to secure his states border at our expense.

But he has a worse problem of the Muslim population in his state which he is supporting.....and allowing financing of their Mosques and Islamic centers from ME funds.

He likes the 'outside' revenues for his state which make it appear as if his state is able to handle their own debts etc and the numbers look good at a glance...but when you look further you see those revenues coming from outside the state...and the jobs claimed created are mostly minimum wage. I have great concerns that same mindset will allow further foreigners to open business and industry into all our country at a rapid pace...and this, as with his state, will generate revenues to revive our nation and make it appear, as it does in his state, that he has created jobs and saved the nation. When in fact it will be from foreign involvements, not from those of our own.

So will he sell us out to foreign investors and the ME oil giants who love Texas for their business ventures....I just see this as... having Perry for Pres. will open the way for more and more foreigners to come here...and that with His seal of approval.

67 posted on 08/21/2011 9:28:11 PM PDT by caww
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To: jospehm20

[ Any Republican that gets elected President will be better than Obama or any other ‘rat on every single issue and also much more responsive to the citizen’s wishes. I really believe that to be true. ]

True.... but if you have an actual choice why not pick the best.. I’m going with Backmann BECAUSE shes not a good politician.. Romney and Perry(Bush) are “pros” at it.. Too machine-like..


68 posted on 08/21/2011 9:43:05 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: caww

I did not say that Bush was, somebody else wrote that Perry was just like Bush and I disagreed. “His State’s” border is the inetrnational border and is the responsibility of the federal government to secure, he should use federal government funds to do so. Texas contributes more to the federal government than it gets back every year, if it were not so we could probably handle the debts a bit better. As it is, those “outside funds” you wrote about are Texas tax dollars coming back to the state. As for all the foreigners and their investments, what exactly do you think they will do with plants, buildings, etc, that they build here? Roll them up and take them home? Whatever.


69 posted on 08/21/2011 9:46:23 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: hosepipe

I do not believe she will make it to the Texas primary next year before she drops out.


70 posted on 08/21/2011 9:49:15 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: comebacknewt

Yeah, it is a deal breaker when illegals are taking tax payer funded services and jobs! By the millions! Good lord man! Sarah, or Trump ...get in there!


71 posted on 08/21/2011 9:52:18 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: jospehm20

PerryForPOTUS Herman P. Vasquez
Rick Perry is not really for drones on the border. Big media hype, brothers. Our families back home have nothing to be concerned over.
16 Aug

https://twitter.com/#!/PerryForPOTUS


72 posted on 08/21/2011 10:14:10 PM PDT by Fred ('Just cus I said it, don't mean I meant it'....Obamaism)
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To: caww

PerryForPOTUS Herman P. Vasquez
I prayed that my people would be saved, and Rick Perry answered.
20 Aug

https://twitter.com/#!/PerryForPOTUS


73 posted on 08/21/2011 10:15:54 PM PDT by Fred ('Just cus I said it, don't mean I meant it'....Obamaism)
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To: Fred

I guess we may see or not, depending on who gets elected. I personally like the idea but this is about what I would expect a “Latino Outreach” coordinator to say.


74 posted on 08/21/2011 10:39:54 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Fred; All
If you bothered to read the thread you'd see contemporaneous with the border governors' letter Perry wrote an op-ed calling for a worker program without citizenship as "comprehensive immigration reform." As it happens, that's Palin's solution as well. She said so on O'Reilly in 2010.

In a December 2006 editorial, Gov. Perry wrote (emphasis mine):

"I would rather know who is crossing our border legally to work instead of not knowing who is crossing our border illegally to work. A guest worker program that provides foreign workers with an ID removes the incentive for millions of people to illegally enter our country. It also adds those workers to our tax base, generates revenue for needed social services and it can be done without providing citizenship."

and

"Along with millions of Americans, I think it is wrong to reward those who broke our laws with citizenship ahead of those who have followed the law and are waiting to enter this country legally. And like millions of Americans I do not support amnesty."

Source: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/editorial/10326/

75 posted on 08/22/2011 4:43:58 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Bill O'Reilly is foul.)
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To: Fred; Liz; rabscuttle385; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...
RE :”As governor of the state that shares the largest border with Mexico, Perry defended his record on immigration, including his support for allowing illegal immigrants to get in-state tuition rates at Texas universities but opposing such a law on a national level. “I'm a big believer in the 10th amendment,” Perry said. “Whether they allow for tuition increases or decreases or whatever it might be in that state, it needs to be the states making that decisions.” Perry wouldn't wade into a national immigration reform debate, deferring to his position that those decisions should be made on the state level, “not by the federal government making one size-fits-all.” But he added, “Once we secure the border we can have a conversation about immigration reform.” Perry also believes in a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants serving in the military.

What Perry is really saying here is that he needed to take those positions to get the support of Hispanic voters. And bringing up the military is a way of putting illegals is a good light, just patriotic Americans without those papers. A sad day when the government felt it needed to recruit illegals for the military. Not a big surprise that those that promote endless new wars $$$$$ also tend to be for Amnesty: McCain, Graham, Kristal.

Perry's stance on illegal immigration Texas Dream Act sounds much like Romney's stance on Obama/Romney-care. They both are saying that they believe in the 10th amendment so don't judge them him negatively by anything they did as governor relating to a presidential run. Good try!

76 posted on 08/22/2011 5:20:03 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs; Fred; rabscuttle385; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ...
Does this mean he's gonna give the blanket back? (/snix)

Perry is thanked by Mexicans for giving illegals in-state tuition.


Senor Ricardo Perrista receives a blanket from Mexican Gov Enrique Martinez
of Coahuila, as a token of appreciation for enacting the Texican Dream Act.

77 posted on 08/22/2011 5:36:20 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne
RE :"Does this mean he's gonna give the blanket back? (/snix) Perry is thanked by Mexicans for giving illegals in-state tuition."

It means he doesnt want us to think he is for amnesty as POTUS just because he was for it as governor of Texas. He says we have to elect him to see what he will do, much like Obama-care. Actually that was a lie too, we still dont know what Obama care will do because the WH gets to make up the rules on the spot after passage without another vote.

My trust level for someone running for POTUS is about zero.

78 posted on 08/22/2011 5:42:17 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; ...
....this consummate liar doesn't want us to think he'll be "against" amnesty as POTUS b/c he was "for" amnesty as governor of Texas ......

Just like Obama, Perry will make up the rules as he goes along.

WRT "for and against," Perry will be Kerry on steroids.

79 posted on 08/22/2011 6:42:48 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Here is one example - I could give you many many more if you like.

The costs were estimated around 50 Billion in 2007.
Construction materials, especially metals, have doubled since 2007.

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/432/video-webex.html


80 posted on 08/22/2011 6:52:21 AM PDT by TexMom7
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To: newzjunkey; Fred; Liz; rabscuttle385; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ...
From your link: That’s why I support a guest worker program that takes undocumented workers off the black market and legitimizes their economic contributions without providing them citizenship status.

All of them? Is there any limit to the number of illegals who Perry would allow in this program? NOTE: Unemployment is painfully high.

Does Perry realize that they are not going to be satisfied with working here? "Now we are paying taxes." (A lot of workers don't pay any taxes, but that's what they will say.) "No taxation without representation." They would be back sooner or later asking for citizenship.

Do you have any of these concerns about Perry? Yes, I know he is not the only one who may be squishy on immigration.

81 posted on 08/22/2011 6:59:53 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: SoConPubbie

” And what does “Secured” mean according to Perry?

Does it mean no more illegals coming across?

IF so, why doesn’t he want a fence or wall?

How come he is against E-Verify?

How come he is against AZ1070? “

How come? Because Perry is a FRAUD


82 posted on 08/22/2011 7:07:05 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: SoConPubbie; All

E-Verify works great here in Arizona. That is why so many illegals packed up and left.


83 posted on 08/22/2011 7:12:07 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; Fred; rabscuttle385; stephenjohnbanker; ...
BUILDING A THIRD WORLD ON AMERICAN SOIL
Anti-Americanism Disguised as Ethnic Studies in Tucson Schools

Townhall.com | by Rachel Alexander
FR Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 by Kaslin

The Tucson Unified School District (TUSD) is in a contentious fight with the state of Arizona over its controversial Mexican-American Studies program. A state law went into effect in Arizona on January 1, 2011, banning the teaching of ethnic studies in K-12 schools. It was prompted by an investigation into TUSD’s ethnic studies curriculum by Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne when he was State Superintendent of Schools.

The program is known as “raza studies,” which means race studies, championed by organizations like the far left organization National Council of La Raza. The course does not simply teach Latino youth about their heritage, it goes well beyond that. The textbooks teach Latino youth that they are mistreated by America, training them to become radical anti-American activists.

Textbooks include “The Pedagogy of the Oppressed” and “Occupied America.” Another text "gloats over the difficulties our country is having at enforcing its immigration laws." Benjamin Franklin is vilified as a racist. White people are referred to as “gringos” and “oppressors” of Latino people. “Privilege” is described as related to a person’s ethnicity.

At a TUSD school board meeting on May 10, one upset mother read excerpts from the textbook An Epic Poem: " My land is lost and stolen, My culture has been raped….we have to destroy capitalism…overthrow a government that has committed abuses….to the bloodsuckers, the parasites, the vampires who are the capitalists of the world: The schools are tools of the power structure that blind and sentence our youth to a life of confusion, and hypocrisy, one that preaches assimilation and practices institutional racism."

2009---TEXAS DREAM ACT DEMONSTRATION---not just education.

Conspiring to destroy the USA from within.

84 posted on 08/22/2011 7:22:01 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Liz
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85 posted on 08/22/2011 7:33:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
” And what does “Secured” mean according to Perry?

Is Perry's definition different from Napolitano's, GWB's, and McCain's? Who knows.

86 posted on 08/22/2011 7:46:33 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: TexMom7
My goodness, where to even start with all the willful self-delusion here?

He means secured as in stopping illegals from coming across.

No. He means he'd like to make them all legal. Perry and his biggest financial supporters are rabid open-borders ideologues.

He is against a fence because it will not work - and many agree especially here in Texas. I agree also. It would be a huge expense to put up a 1200+ mile fence and it would be a waste of money.

Wrong. He's against a fence because he's taken alot of money over the years from other people who are against the fence.

Perry is adamant that it would take “Boots On The Ground” + high tech equipment like drones.

Wrong. Perry is using this either as a strawman that will never come to pass, or a backdoor corporate welfare handout to defense contractors that will use the technology to document all the people coming across, and then proceed to do nothing about it. Virtual fences don't work. Real walls do. Ask Israel.

E-Verify is a joke.

I've used E-Verify. It works just fine, and much better than the current I-9 requirement, which actually is a joke.

He was NOT against AZ1070 at all. He just felt like parts of it were not right for Texas. He did not want Texas State Patrol Officers becoming Border Agents. He said it would take away from the job they had to do.

Bullshit. This doesn't require any other response.

He was for the Sanctuary City Law this last legislative session but our law makers in Texas did not pass it. He put it back on the table for consideration when he called a special session and they again did not pass it. However, the photo id for driver license passed within the state budget but a Fed judge halted it. The one thing that did get through our legislature which he signed was a voter id - this eliminates illegals from voting in Texas.

More bullshit. He put it on the ledger to keep himself from being lynched, then did absolutely nothing to help get it through the legislature. What part of Rick Perry is a paid shill for the Open Borders Lobby do you not understand?

He is against Sanctuary Cities and Policies but much of that is the local city government. Again, he put the Sanctuary City law back on the table during the special session and our state gov did not pass it. There is only so much he can do, even as Governor of Texas.

And the State Police do not practice Sanctuary policies. They don’t do the job of the Border Police but if someone commits a crime and they think they are illegal - they will check their status.


His recent cynical pandering aside, there's nothing in Perry's personal history, governing philosophy, or donor list to even remotely support his assertions about being for a secure border or being against a blanket amnesty. He will be vetted and exposed as a fraud sometime between now and next November. I'd prefer sooner, so as not to hand re-election to Komrad Soetoro on a silver platter next fall. Next contender (pretender?) please. Watching McCain get carried off on a stretcher really wasn't enough for the RNC to have its come-to-Jesus moment on borders and immigration?
87 posted on 08/22/2011 8:18:57 AM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: Liz

Don’t suppose anyone caught the names of the Perry strategy team on FOX this morning.

Given their propensity to Obama style tactics I think they warrant some investigation.


88 posted on 08/22/2011 8:28:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: cripplecreek; CowboyJay; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Liz

Here's Perry last year, attending, giving speeches, and lending credence to La Raza, an organization which is 100 percent pro-amnesty, pro-illegal-immigration.

This all happened deep in the heart of Texas.

89 posted on 08/22/2011 9:22:41 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Liz; SandRat
The program is known as “raza studies,” which means race studies, championed by organizations like the far left organization National Council of La Raza. The course does not simply teach Latino youth about their heritage, it goes well beyond that. The textbooks teach Latino youth that they are mistreated by America, training them to become radical anti-American activists.

Thanks for the ping...

90 posted on 08/22/2011 9:47:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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To: dragnet2; AuntB; Tennessee Nana
Two peas in a pod.


91 posted on 08/22/2011 10:39:26 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: dragnet2

I don’t buy the excuse some are making that La Raza wasn’t happy with what he said. Just speaking at one of their events is the same as speaking at a bund meeting or klan rally.


92 posted on 08/22/2011 11:05:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: TexMom7

He means secured as in stopping illegals from coming across.
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No little grasshopper

Perry is for illegal aliens just watzing into the US and taking the place of your child and grandchild in the workplace and the college classroom..

and disenfranchising you all in the voting booth..

What is it you dont understand about the illegal alien problem we have in this country..


93 posted on 08/22/2011 11:21:49 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: TexMom7

He means secured as in stopping illegals from coming across.
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No little grasshopper

Perry is for illegal aliens just watzing into the US and taking the place of your child and grandchild in the workplace and the college classroom..

and disenfranchising you all in the voting booth..

What is it you dont understand about the illegal alien problem we have in this country..


94 posted on 08/22/2011 11:22:08 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: cripplecreek

Do you think Perry would show up and speak at an organization who demanded secured borders, government dramatically reduced in size and scope, English only laws, crack down and criminal penalties of employers that hire illegals, suspension of all immigration until the tens of millions of unemployed Americans and our economy are brought back from the brink?


95 posted on 08/22/2011 11:29:23 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Do you think Perry would show up and speak at an organization who demanded secured borders, government dramatically reduced in size and scope, English only laws, crack down and criminal penalties of employers that hire illegals, suspension of all immigration until the tens of millions of unemployed Americans and our economy are brought back from the brink?

He should have been doing that years ago and he should have been backing it up while in office. Unfortunately he hasn't done either.
96 posted on 08/22/2011 11:50:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Liz; SatinDoll; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; Plummz; ...
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Perry defends stance on Fed, immigration

BUILDING A THIRD WORLD ON AMERICAN SOIL

~Conspiring to destroy the USA from within.~

See # 7, and # 19 .

Then, check out # 84 .

Thanks, Liz.

97 posted on 08/22/2011 12:29:56 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT; Liz; South40

Liz and South 40 have this Perry globalist cockroach N A I L E D


98 posted on 08/22/2011 2:13:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; org.whodat; cripplecreek; TADSLOS; BobL; raybbr; truthfreedom; CowboyJay; ...
Rick Perry has a very questionable record. This first part says it all.

"I think there is a path to citizenship for those young men and women ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served their country," Perry said.

THEIR COUNTRY?! When speaking of ILLEGAL ALIENS! Perry thinks America is THEIR COUNTRY?!
Perry wants to give ILLEGAL aliens citizenship

In 2001, Perry signed into law the very first Texas “Dream ACT.” It allowed the children of illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition at any Texas university. Perry defended the Texas “Dream ACT,” saying, “To punish these young Texans for their parents' actions is not what America has always been about.”

Perry then jetted off to Mexico and bragged to the Mexicans that Texas passed this law, saying, “The message is simple, educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.” Education is the future, and yes we can.
Rick Perry’s immigration problem

In February 2007, Perry signed a shocking executive order forcing every sixth-grade girl to submit to a three-jab regimen of the Gardasil vaccine. He also forced state health officials to make the vaccine available "free" to girls ages 9 to 18. The drug, promoted by manufacturer Merck as an effective shield against the sexually transmitted human papillomavirus (HPV) and genital warts, as well as cervical cancer, had only been approved by the Food and Drug Administration eight months prior to Perry's edict.

Perry defenders pointed to a bogus "opt-out" provision in his mandate "to protect the right of parents to be the final authority on their children's health care." But requiring parents to seek the government's permission to keep an untested drug out of their kids' veins is a plain usurpation of their authority. Translation: Ask your bureaucratic overlord to determine if a Gardasil waiver is right for you.

Libertarians and social conservatives alike slammed Perry's reckless disregard for parental rights and individual liberty. The Republican-dominated legislature also balked. In May 2007, both chambers passed bills overturning the governor's unilaterally imposed health order.
Perry's vaccine order exposed lapse in political, policy judgments Rick Perry’s Superficial Extremism The Texas governor’s record doesn’t live up to his rhetoric.

“The Gardasil debacle is just one of many concerns a wide range of grass-roots conservative activists have about Perry’s record as governor. He’s soft on illegal immigration despite a few recent nods to border enforcement. He’s prone to crony capitalism. And as the vaccine mandate scandal shows, he demonstrated Nanny State tendencies that are anathema to Tea Party core principles.

Once again, the Perry campaign proves my point about the non-walkback-walkback. If Perry “erred on the side of life,” what his campaign continues to suggest is that those who opposed his Gardasil mandate from the beginning chose death. Instead of renouncing the human shield demagoguery he engaged it after the repeal, the Perry campaign has doubled-down. There is nothing — nothing — Tea Party about this.

The Gardasil debacle is a useful red flag on Perry’s basic political instincts, judgment, core values, and trust. It is no surprise — given his ties to Merck — that Perry is a consummate practitioner of corporate welfare “public-private partnerships.
Plumbing the rest of the Perry record

Perry’s campaign website lists the Trans-Texas Corridor as one of his accomplishments. But is it something Perry really wants broadcast as an achievement? The Texas Republican Party’s 2010 platform includes a plank specifically opposing the Trans-Texas Corridor.
Rick Perry's NAFTA Superhighway Problem

VIDEO Perry compares Giuliani to Reagan

VIDEO: Perry thanked by Vicente Fox for illegals in-state tuition

Rick Perry has a very questionable past. But one thing is not in question and that is Rick Perry is NOT conservative!

99 posted on 08/22/2011 2:23:53 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry is to conservatism what Susan Smith was to motherhood)
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To: South40; stephenjohnbanker; org.whodat; cripplecreek; TADSLOS; BobL; raybbr; truthfreedom; ...
In 2001, Perry signed into law the very first Texican “Dream ACT” to finance children of illegal immigrants for pay in-state tuition at any Texas university. Perry defended the Texican “Dream ACT,” saying, “To punish these young Texans for their parents' actions is not what America has always been about.” Perry then jetted off to Mexico and bragged to Mexicans that Texas passed the law, saying, “The message is simple, educacion es el futuro, y si se puede,” (education is the future, and yes we can).

Education for illegals? Which education, Senor Ricardo?

Anti-Americanism Disguised as Ethnic Studies in Tucson Schools
Townhall.com ^ | August 27, 2011 | Rachel Alexander
FR Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 by Kaslin

The Tucson Unified School District (TUSD) is in a contentious fight with the state of Arizona over its controversial Mexican-American Studies program. A state law went into effect in Arizona on January 1, 2011, banning the teaching of ethnic studies in K-12 schools. It was prompted by an investigation into TUSD’s ethnic studies curriculum by Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne when he was State Superintendent of Schools.

The program is known as “raza studies,” which means race studies, championed by organizations like the far left organization National Council of La Raza. The course does not simply teach Latino youth about their heritage, it goes well beyond that. The textbooks teach Latino youth that they are mistreated by America, training them to become radical anti-American activists.

Textbooks include “The Pedagogy of the Oppressed” and “Occupied America.” Another text "gloats over the difficulties our country is having at enforcing its immigration laws." Benjamin Franklin is vilified as a racist. White people are referred to as “gringos” and “oppressors” of Latino people. “Privilege” is described as related to a person’s ethnicity.

At a TUSD school board meeting on May 10, one upset mother read excerpts from the textbook An Epic Poem: " My land is lost and stolen, My culture has been raped......we have to destroy capitalism…overthrow a government that has committed abuses….to the bloodsuckers, the parasites, the vampires who are the capitalists of the world: The schools are tools of the power structure that blind and sentence our youth to a life of confusion, and hypocrisy, one that preaches assimilation and practices institutional racism."--SNIP--

TEXICAN DREAM ACT DEMONSTRATION---2009

Did Senor Perrynista not know about this? Or was he taking a siesta?

100 posted on 08/22/2011 2:44:06 PM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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