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What Palin Really Did To the Oil Industry
The Wall Street Journal ^ | SEPTEMBER 5, 2008 | JAMES P. LUCIER JR.

Posted on 08/22/2011 8:17:41 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan

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-"In 2006, then Gov. Frank Murkowski, a Republican, proposed changing the state's tax on oil...

-"One year after it went into effect, the Petroleum Profits Tax brought in far less revenue than expected and the state suffered a revenue crunch."

-"Mr. Murkowski's plan turned into a disaster."

-"Meanwhile, as the shortfall appeared, a number of state legislators were on trial, under indictment, or under investigation for bribery by the FBI. "

-"As a new governor in 2007, Mrs. Palin stepped in to address the fiscal crisis and restore accountability. Working with Democrats and Republicans alike"

-"Relative to the old system, Mrs. Palin's plan -- called "Alaska's Clear and Equitable Share" (ACES) -- improves incentives for developing new resources."

-"Her plan includes an escalator clause that gives the state a larger share of revenues when oil prices rise. This is common to production-sharing agreements all over the world."

-"A direct share in oil profits for every citizen is the ultimate incentive for more drilling. That's why in Alaska drilling for oil seems almost universally popular, while other states are drill-phobic."



1 posted on 08/22/2011 8:17:44 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan; Al B.; Brices Crossroads; RedMDer; trisham; Bigtigermike; Lakeshark; ...
GAME ON!


Sarah Palin's Busy Ping List!


2 posted on 08/22/2011 8:24:53 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: The Bronze Titan; onyx
GAME ON!

3 posted on 08/22/2011 8:29:39 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: The Bronze Titan
-"A direct share in oil profits for every citizen is the ultimate incentive for more drilling. That's why in Alaska drilling for oil seems almost universally popular, while other states are drill-phobic."

They actually get a check at times if I am not mistaken..at least they claim it on Alaska boards. Are we advocating that on a conservative forum. I have serious hesitation about that. Taxing business to hand out cash to folks.

Taxing them for infrastructure improvements necessary for the increases in population they bring is good but just handing out money is problematic to me and yes I am aware that she didn't start that....it started as some Dividend Fund...35 years ago...

Let's see ...what do reasonable folks here think..should local government tax businesses and give part of that money to the local population as cash? Does any other state do this?

One could argue that it's better to do that than have the govt waste it on BS...it's pretty nuanced question. It can breed dependence or it could be used to reduce taxation on citizens.

I do not know what state and local taxes Alaska has...once upon a time when Texas was oil and gas rich and in production and the Texas Railroad Commission which governed it was bringing in so much royalty revenue to the state that Texas had virtually no statewide tax.

4 posted on 08/22/2011 8:30:18 AM PDT by wardaddy (I support Bachmann...or Palin should she enter...but I am not a Palin Harpy...know the difference)
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To: The Bronze Titan
The Establishment is really bringing the knives.

Boy, these bastards are afraid of Sarah.

They are covering their gonads with both hands.

5 posted on 08/22/2011 8:30:34 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority (Where is the middle ground on insolvency of the United States government?)
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To: onyx
The difference is that under Palin the oil companies have oil to pump and resulting tax revenue stream for the gobmint as well (no pun intended) as a ton of good jobs.

Under 0bambi there is no oil in the first place....like Exon being denied drilling on their new and huge discovery in the Gulf.

6 posted on 08/22/2011 8:31:17 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

So Gov. Palin raised taxes on a major American industry — the oil industry

Murkowski : 22.5 % tax rate

Palin: 25 % tax rate

that’s a tax increase ... right ?

And did not state govt. spending rise under Gov. Palin?

-George


7 posted on 08/22/2011 8:31:56 AM PDT by Calif Conservative (rwr and gwb backer)
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To: onyx

bump.


8 posted on 08/22/2011 8:32:24 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: The Bronze Titan

9 posted on 08/22/2011 8:33:04 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: The Bronze Titan
Odd that.

Who would have thought the media and some posters around here actually misrepresented the facts?

I am shocked, yes shocked, I tell ya.

10 posted on 08/22/2011 8:33:26 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: The Bronze Titan

It is like ....

A capital gains tax for oil or better yet .... inflation protection for the state’s long term contracts.

I don’t see anything wrong with it as long as the percentage is fixed or the percentage increase is very small.

I don’t know the details of what she did....makes me want to sign up with the WSJ just so I can read the rest, but I can find the details other places.

The government needs to run more like a business. A Business wouldn’t enter a long term agreement (Multi-year) fixed price contract without some variable to be considered in the price for the items/services.

The fact that she did this..just means she is smart....how she did it determines if she is a socialist or a free market capitalist. I make no judgment either way on this topic.


11 posted on 08/22/2011 8:34:04 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Calif Conservative

“And did not state govt. spending rise under Gov. Palin?”

NO it didn’t!!!!

Spending actually declined under Gov. Palin.


12 posted on 08/22/2011 8:35:39 AM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: "You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: spokeshave

Right. obama has zero interest in drilling for oil on our shores or directly off our shores, but Brazil and China are A-OKAY with him.


13 posted on 08/22/2011 8:39:18 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: wardaddy
Are we advocating that on a conservative forum. I have serious hesitation about that. Taxing business to hand out cash to folks.

The oil rights belong to the people of Alaska. When prices are high, they pay an even higher rate for energy than folks in the lower 48. This tax plan provides balance.

14 posted on 08/22/2011 8:39:35 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Calif Conservative

The question isn’t whether spending rose (I really don’t know the answer to that), the question should be, did spending go beyond revenues?

If we accept that a state government SHOULD spend a certain about on certain things, then they have to increasing spending as the population increases. There is nothing inherently wrong with that. However, if they increase taxes just to spend money on new crap that’s not needed and not connected to the legitimate increase I suggested above, then that’s wrong.

Again, don’t know the answer to that. Just saying, “increased spending” alone does not give conservatives “permission” to damn a politician all by itself.


15 posted on 08/22/2011 8:40:44 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: dila813

The article is from September, 2008 and you can read it by simply clicking above where it says *continue reading*.


16 posted on 08/22/2011 8:42:51 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx

oh, I thought it was subscription only

Thanks


17 posted on 08/22/2011 8:45:21 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

I think it is, for the articles on the day they’re published.


18 posted on 08/22/2011 8:52:18 AM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: wardaddy

It doesn’t make sense to me.
The rationale (as I understand it) is that the people of Alaska own the resources and therefore the extraction companies owe them a royalty on those resources upon extraction.

But this doesn’t make sense to me, because when the resources are gone, what do future Alaskans own? Why do people own the resources just because they happen to live in that State precisely now as a point in time? Who owned the resources before? The Inuit?

If anything, the taxes collected should be put in a ‘lockbox’ for future generations ... but even that is supect.


19 posted on 08/22/2011 8:52:31 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: The Bronze Titan

With the ACES tax structure, Alaska scores very low in a comparison of places to invest for Capital investment for petroleum facilities.

Fraser Institute - Global Petroleum Survey 2011
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/uploadedFiles/fraser-ca/Content/research-news/research/publications/global-petroleum-survey-2011.pdf
See Table 1: Jurisdictional rankings according to the extent of invest mentbarriers, page 15

When France, Italy and Ghana score higher as a better place to invest for an oil production facility, it is time to fix what is broken.

The survey continues to break it down into areas of concern, including topics like stability, regulations, and fiscal. In the United States, fiscal terms pose a greater barrier to investment in the US Off shore—Pacific,
California, and Alaska than in other jurisdictions. (page 79)

Figure 25, page 83, shows onshore Alaska scores lower in Taxation Regime than all other states except Ohio and California.

The survey was distributed to managers and executives in the “upstream” petroleum industry.

The survey was administered from January 31, 2011 to April 25, 2011. A total of 502 individuals responded, representing 478 companies. As figure 1 illustrates, about 60 percent of the respondents identified them selves as either a manager or holding a higher-level position. The companies that participated in the survey account for more than 60 percent of the annual spending on petroleum exploration and production by the international oil companies


20 posted on 08/22/2011 8:54:09 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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