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Karl Rove and Rachel Maddow Agree: Sarah Palin Will Run
Death and Taxes Mag ^ | 08/22/2011 | Carmel Lobello

Posted on 08/22/2011 10:15:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Last weekend, ex-Republican campaign strategist/current Fox News political commentator Karl Rove repeated twice that Sarah Palin will run for president. He’s obviously right.

Appearing on Fox News Saturday, Rove stated that Palin “has a schedule next week that looks like that of a candidate, not a celebrity.”

He then appeared on “Fox News Sunday,” pointing to a campaign-like video recently released by Palin‘s Political Action Committee, as well as upcoming events in Iowa as evidence that Palin will soon announce her candidacy. Watch the video below.

“If she doesn’t get in next week, I think people are going to basically say, ‘She’s not in, she won’t be in and if she gets in, I’m not going to be for her,’” Rove added. “You can only tease so many times in the political process and I think she’s getting to the end of that.”

Much evidence seems to back up Rove’s comments. Back in late June, Bristol Palin told Fox News that her mother had definitely decided about whether or not to run, but that “some things just need to stay in the family.”

Since around the time she made that statement, Palin’s schedule has, as Rove put it, “resembled that of a candidate, not a celebrity.” Celebrities don’t paint a giant tour bus with American flags and tour U.S. historical sites with their families, nor do they show up at the Iowa state fair to talk about the future of the country. And they especially don’t release campaign videos.

Rachel Maddow shared Rove’s prediction, Tweeting: “Why is it political common wisdom that Gov Palin is not running? What’s her new Iowa ad for, if not for a campaign?”

So what does Palin have to gain by launching her full-on campaign three months before announcing her candidacy? (If, in fact she does.)

Back in October 2010 Palin said that she would run for president in 2012 “if there’s nobody else to do it.” She included that she’d “take a real close look at the lay of the land to consider whether there are those with that common sense, conservative, pro-Constitution passion, whether there are already candidates out there who can do the job … or whether there’s nobody willing to do it, to make the tough choices and not care what the critics are going to say about you, just going forward according to what I think the priorities should be.”

By delaying her official entrance, Palin may simply be waiting for the other candidates to say enough regrettable things to justify her entrance using the criteria stated above.

When each new candidate enters the race, he or she tours New Hampshire and Iowa stating positions and usually saying something either regrettable or downright stupid. Bachmann has so far provided the richest examples thus far, as has Rick Santorum who claimed in May that John McCain doesn’t understand torture.

The media, of course, endlessly exploits these gaffes and excoriates the new candidate for anything he or she has ever said that could be construed as controversial and/or unpresidential.

Eventually, media attention eventually moves from the new candidate to settle back on the group as a whole. By delaying her big announcement, Palin may simply be waiting for the excitement surrounding each candidate to burn out.

In doing so, she is also minimizing her time under intense scrutiny, which is essential, as Palin has proven herself to be more susceptible to gaffes than any other candidate.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: karlrove; notrunning; palin2012; potus; rachelmaddow; sarahpalin
National Review's Robert Costa agrees. He says that Palin will spring a September Surprise this year.

See here:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/275146/she-will-run-robert-costa

1 posted on 08/22/2011 10:15:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama 50%, Palin 33% (Rasmussen Poll)


2 posted on 08/22/2011 10:18:11 AM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Cain, Palin, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: SeekAndFind

3 posted on 08/22/2011 10:19:29 AM PDT by I see my hands (Keep your sunny side up!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sarah Louise Palin

Born February 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, ID (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Charles R Heath, born in ID
Sarah Sheeran, born in WI

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of her birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Sarah Palin is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!

4 posted on 08/22/2011 10:21:04 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: SeekAndFind

If she does it would require every person in every corner of the US to work phones, knock on doors and contribute As Beck says...”Because others have let us down, it is now our duty to face the hard truths and do the right thing—no matter the personal cost.”


5 posted on 08/22/2011 10:24:22 AM PDT by albie
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To: SeekAndFind
When you look at the crowds she drew (20K-30K a pop) as a vp candidate in 2008. When you look at the profound impact she had on the 2010 elections...well, the libs, MSM, left, socialists, and RINOs are in for a surprise in 2012.

Click on the link below and scroll down to see those crowds.

I believe she will double and treble those numbers in 2012 as a presidential candidate.

I believe she is going to announce on 9/3...and I welcome her into the race and will work as hard as I can to help her win. Watch her numbers climb through the roof. I believe she will take on and defeat the other GOP candidates, and then clean the floor with Obama.


SARAH IN 2012 - FOR AMERICA, FOR LIBERTY!


If you so desire, you can get the bumper sticker here

6 posted on 08/22/2011 10:25:06 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: SeekAndFind
She's been running for the last four years.

And doing a damned fine job of it.

She has the ruling class, RINOs and Liberals alike, in total disarray.

7 posted on 08/22/2011 10:31:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m a bit surprised. The MSM is going to literally have a reporting pool following every one of her children around.


8 posted on 08/22/2011 10:42:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Grunthor

Then you split the 17% ‘undecided’ (for a 2-person race) with the traditional 80% of that going to the challenger and you come up with Obama leading Palin 53% to 47%.

Not bad, not bad at all for this stage in the game.


9 posted on 08/22/2011 10:43:06 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind
Sarah Palin Will Run Has Won
10 posted on 08/22/2011 10:45:13 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: SeekAndFind

There ought to be some idiocy level at which we don’t post personal political commentary blogs—and this one is screaming 5-alarms for not making the cut.


11 posted on 08/22/2011 11:00:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Grunthor

Not sure what that poll matters right now. What matters is how she stacks up against the rest of the GOP field, now and going into the primaries. If she is nominated, and if she picks a good choice for a running mate, Obama will have good reason to fear her.


12 posted on 08/22/2011 11:14:12 AM PDT by NavyCanDo (Go Mama Grizzly! Palin 2012)
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To: albie
More importantly, every Palin backer should dig deep into their pockets and make a $1,000 contribution. They need to put their money where their heart is and ante up.

Palin is going to need a lot of money this late in the game.

13 posted on 08/22/2011 11:17:22 AM PDT by Blackandproud
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To: All

The media trashed her too much last go around. If she gets the nomination she won’t win. The fact she resigned half way into her first term as a governor of one of the smallest (population wise) states doesn’t help her case any. I know a lot of people here love her and it has nothing to do with how well she’d do as president but she’d simply not be able to beat Obama if she did decide to run.


14 posted on 08/22/2011 11:18:02 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble (We need an electable conservative in 2012!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I like her but she can’t win. IF she runs, and is nominated, she will be handing it Obummer.


15 posted on 08/22/2011 11:18:35 AM PDT by Fawn (No--bama 2012)
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To: NavyCanDo

Please don't show us polls showing Obama beating anyone. In 2012 , whoever the republicans nominate from Palin to Romney or Paul , they will beat Obama. Period. So the issue is not who can beat Obama but who is the best conservative WHO WON'T SELL US OUT.


16 posted on 08/22/2011 11:23:29 AM PDT by RED SOUTH (If you liked George W. Bush, you will LOVE Rick Perry! Follow me on twitter @redsouth72)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rich Lowry, writer for National Review, disagrees with Rove. Lowry says that Palin will announce her support for Perry and will be used to pull Bachman votes to Perry. Palin is a good friend of Perry’s and, in fact, people wear Perry t-shirts in her film.


17 posted on 08/22/2011 11:24:55 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: SeekAndFind

Rich Lowry, writer for National Review, disagrees with Rove. Lowry says that Palin will announce her support for Perry and will be used to pull Bachman votes to Perry. Palin is a good friend of Perry’s and, in fact, people wear Perry t-shirts in her film.


18 posted on 08/22/2011 11:25:07 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: JoeGar

Why is Palin going to support Perry when she knows full well that Bachmann is closer to the Tea Party (who Palin supports) than Perry is?

I just don’t get this — (Unless of course Palin already acknowledges that Bachmann just can’t beat Obama ).


19 posted on 08/22/2011 11:30:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: Grunthor
"Obama 50%, Palin 33% (Rasmussen Poll)"

WOW! Thank you!

That is stunning!

A sitting president versus a housewife in Alaska who isn't even running yet, and she's already within 17% of him?! That is extrememly bad news for team Obama, and a virtual iron-clad guarantee and vindication of what has been my assertion all along:

Once she announces, that immediately tightens up by 10-12%. After one-or-two months of campaigning, long before she wins the GOP nomination, Palin will be in the lead never to look back. The drooling ass-monkey will just keep fading in her blast-trail as she rockets upward in the polls.

These early totals pretty much guarantee a Palin landslide by minimum 65-70%, and possibly more.

Thank you again for the great news! RUN, SARAH RUN!!!!!!!!!!

8^D

20 posted on 08/22/2011 11:55:37 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin is announcing on September 3rd in Indianola, Iowa")
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To: SeekAndFind
Why is Palin going to support Perry when she knows full well that Bachmann is closer to the Tea Party (who Palin supports) than Perry is? I just don’t get this — (Unless of course Palin already acknowledges that Bachmann just can’t beat Obama ).

I think you have it right: Palin must feel that Bachmann cannot beat Obama but that Perry can -- or perhaps Palin feels she could be Perry's VP.

21 posted on 08/22/2011 12:12:26 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: wrhssaxensemble

Letting the media choose our last president is the worst thing that ever happened to America.

Let’s not be that foolish again.


22 posted on 08/22/2011 12:15:15 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: JoeGar

Bingo!


23 posted on 08/22/2011 12:20:45 PM PDT by des
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To: albie
I agree, and to all of us who say they support Palin, and do not give $ until it hurts, then we did not really support her, we were just paying lip service.
24 posted on 08/22/2011 12:25:08 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Fawn

have you EVER been right ?


25 posted on 08/22/2011 12:26:58 PM PDT by advertising guy (if a politician from either party was to say hello to me, it should be law I can shoot em)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lowry is right, she will end up endorsing Perry. Sarah wanted to be the Paris Hilton of conservatives, and well she succeeded.


26 posted on 08/22/2011 12:28:14 PM PDT by 83Vet4Life
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To: advertising guy

I’m like Rush...I’m always right....well...I’m 99.97% right..


27 posted on 08/22/2011 12:52:57 PM PDT by Fawn (No--bama 2012)
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To: MikeSteelBe

I’m not at all saying you let the media choose the president. I agree with you on that. What I am saying though is Palin has a very hard hill to climb, I’d even say worse than the other candidates thus far, if she were to win.


28 posted on 08/22/2011 12:59:06 PM PDT by wrhssaxensemble (We need an electable conservative in 2012!)
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To: Gargantua

God you must have just done somersaults over the poll that had Ron Paul within 5% points of Obama I bet.

(sarcasm off)


29 posted on 08/22/2011 1:23:17 PM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Palin, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: Grunthor
You think Sarah Palin supporters pull for Ron Paul? That's pretty remarkably stupid. Then again, you also seem to feel that someone who hasn't even declared their candidacy yet should be polling even with the sitting president, so I guess abysmal stupidity is kind of a normal state for you, huh?

That's the problem with you Palin haters. She is nothing but a sweet, successful, kind, God fearing public servant who keeps all her campaign promises. Ergo, in order for you to dislike her, you have to resort to blatant irraionality. It makes you all come across as flaming a**holes.

But what do you care? You get to live with all that wonderful irrational venom. So you got that going for you... which is nice.

;^\

30 posted on 08/22/2011 2:12:00 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin is announcing on September 3rd in Indianola, Iowa")
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To: Gargantua

“You think Sarah Palin supporters pull for Ron Paul?”

No, I thought that you would be excited about any candidate beating Obama, as most American (I believe) should be.


31 posted on 08/22/2011 2:26:42 PM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Palin, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: Blackandproud
every Palin backer should dig deep into their pockets and make a $1,000 contribution. They need to put their money where their heart is and ante up.

Boy, would I love to, but some of us can't stretch further than $100. That's where my family is starting. I'll donate more throughout the campaign, but a cool grand something beyond my reach.

32 posted on 08/22/2011 2:28:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Gargantua

“That’s the problem with you Palin haters.”

Oh get off the damned cross, I never attacked Palin and you damned well know it. Your post was EXACTLY the reason that Sarah is having problems with many on FR and even more in polls. It’s not her, it’s her sycophants that piss people off. IF she gets in and IF she polls in such a way that makes her a threat to Obama, I will support her.

In SPITE of people like you.


33 posted on 08/22/2011 2:29:46 PM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Palin, Perry, None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: wrhssaxensemble

You’ve just posted the three most well-worn and tirelessly debunked left-wing talking points against Governor Palin.

Do you really think that you’re convincing anyone by posting them for the thousand and oneth time, or are you practicing the Goebels model of propaganda?


34 posted on 08/22/2011 2:34:01 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Gargantua
A sitting president versus a housewife in Alaska who isn't even running yet, and she's already within 17% of him?

Excuse me but she has been running for the last 2 years, she is a well known commodity and a failed governor (she quit). If Palin should get the nomination not only will she lose in a landslide we will fail to take the senate and may well lose the house. Palin, either you love her or you don't and there isn't enough in the love column to win.

35 posted on 08/22/2011 2:37:29 PM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: engrpat
LMAO!!!! Just be sure to save the last two cartridges for yourself and the dog. Neither of you want to endure what comes next. Trust me.

Cuz after Palin loses the White House, the Senate AND the House, she's going door to door infecting people with scoliosis, scabies and pancreatic cancer!

Save the last two if you love your dog, mannnn.....!!!

ROFLMFWSCAO!!!!

36 posted on 08/22/2011 5:08:47 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin is announcing on September 3rd in Indianola, Iowa")
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To: Grunthor
SEE?! You can lead a panda to the Hibachi, but you can't give him gental herpes. How I wish I had just listened to you! Is it too late? Tell me it's not too late!!!!????!!!!

LMAO!!!!

8^D

37 posted on 08/22/2011 5:11:59 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin is announcing on September 3rd in Indianola, Iowa")
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To: Windflier

“You’ve just posted the three most well-worn and tirelessly debunked left-wing talking points against Governor Palin.

Do you really think that you’re convincing anyone by posting them for the thousand and oneth time, or are you practicing the Goebels model of propaganda?”

Really? I’m now somehow a Nazi because I merely pointed out it is difficult- not impossible but difficult- for Palin to win in the general? Wow. The fact of the matter is that, and this is all I have been saying, she is a pretty polarizing figure in American politics. You either love her or hate her. Very few are in between. Any candidate, to win the presidency must win over a majority of independents. When half of the country hates you this task becomes increasingly difficult. This is an issue that I think more than any of the other candidates currently running she would have to deal with. Is it impossible to overcome? No. Is it difficult? Yes. How about you actually get your act together and form coherent counter-arguments instead of resorting to name calling. I love people having different views of things but don’t appreciate it when they are either too lazy/stupid to articulate themselves and instead resort to Godwin’s Law. Actually show me why it’s (apparently) clear sailing for Palin, don’t just imply that I am a Nazi.


38 posted on 08/23/2011 5:47:40 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble (We need an electable conservative in 2012!)
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To: wrhssaxensemble

I was raised to love truth, search for truth, and think for myself before the internet.

“Godwin’s” law does not apply to serious discussions comparing current events to world history.

Palin’s an imperfect human like everyone, and it’s OK to disagree with her polices and question her potential success.

There is a difference between a respectable difference of educated opinions and rabid Palin hate.

She has done NOTHING do deserve the hate she gets. Palin hate is the result lying libtrash spreading propaganda and ignorant libtards accepting it.

Palin haters are the equivalent of NAZIS or the fools who believed their lies, enabled the Holocaust, and let their own country be destroyed.

This country better get polarized or die, because we have been suffering from Truth decay for too many decades now.


39 posted on 08/23/2011 7:12:09 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

And what exactly does any of that has to do with what I wrote? All I wrote is that she will have a hard time winning over independents (which she will)... you seem to think that makes me a Nazi? You’re insane.


40 posted on 08/23/2011 7:27:14 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble (We need an electable conservative in 2012!)
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To: wrhssaxensemble
Really? I’m now somehow a Nazi because I merely pointed out it is difficult- not impossible but difficult- for Palin to win in the general?

That's a neat trick you're trying to pull, but accusing me of calling you a Nazi is really just a covert personal attack. I never said that, nor did I come close to even implying it.

What I said, is that you posted three of the most well-worn leftist talking points against Governor Palin. Talking points that have been posted, then debunked thousands of times on this website. Essentially, you're throwing mud at her that didn't stick the first thousand times it was tried, but somehow you think that posting it just one more time will do the trick.

What I asked, is are you applying the Goebels propaganda method? It would seem so, since you're posting lies that have been uttered thousands of times before. Doesn't make you a "Nazi", but it does cast you in something of a questionable light.

Perhaps you're new to the conversation, and the questions you raised are something you just thought of, but I doubt it.

41 posted on 08/23/2011 11:01:47 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: wrhssaxensemble

Don’t call me insane until your reading comprehension improves.

I said Palin haters were like Nazis or their stooges, not those with informed, legitimate opinions.

You are right, but can moderates and independents separate truth from lies?

Should Germans have let the holocaust occur just because the media had too much sway over “independents”?

I have talked to way too many people I consider basically decent who are rabidly anti-Plain because of the lying trash media epidemic. “Tea Partiers” are the new Juden.


42 posted on 08/23/2011 1:48:47 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

Plain = Palin


43 posted on 08/23/2011 1:50:40 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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