Although well-writtena and well-filmed, I believe a far more sinister motive exists for the release of this film at this time other than a profit, documentary or other noble cause.
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Very few will recall "Edge of the City" and they are lucky, for it was released in 1957. Dockside stuff. A decent young white man played by John Cassavetes chums up with another dock worker. He is played by Sidney Poitier. The African American is a perfect family man. The heavy is the evil "Charlie" played by Jack Warden. A homicidal corrupt union thug, absolutely vicious and lots of toadies around. He cannot stand white and black as friends.
The black man is murdered with a steel hook plunged into his back. Warden played "Charlie" so well as to be overplayed. The hero finally drags "Charlie" down in a headlock. "I am taking you in".
I have not yet seen the flick, but read the book about a year ago after my wife and several neighbors raved about it. From 1957 thru 1961 I had several fairly good buds in the Army from the deep south. While they were O.K. friends, some of the opinions and feelings THEY voiced about blacks from time to time made what is in the book, “The Help” seem like Little Bo Peep! In fact, as recent as 2005 some of the statements made by a yellow dog Democrat businessman, from Delaware of all places, put ALL blacks lower than whale $h!t in HIS book.
Watch for more e.coli breakouts. My wife said the “Help” were so kind as to put poop in a pie or something like that.
Best book I’ve read in a long time, read it last year. Saw the movie last weekend, loved it too. Great rendition of the book, which was gratifying - Hollywood ruins most books to movies. Don’t agree with you - many people were like that in pre-civil rights south, and conservatives worked hard, lost their lives even, trying to undo the very things depicted in the story. Not a stretch at all. It’s good to remember the evils of the past, to avoid repeating them.
I just read the book, and thought I was the only one in the world that had! Seriously!
It’s wonderfully written, and anyone who loves hearing people speak about their place in life, and the people they work for will love it.
Incite to violence is a real stretch. Violence is the black on black crime actually taking place in the inner-city these days.
Have you actually read the book? The time setting for the book was the early 60’s. It was made into a movie because it was such a well written book with well developed characters.
It’s typical southern lit style. There’s no sinister motives here other than to cash in on the $$$$$$$$$ the book made.
People sadly are creating hysteria and may be the victim of self fulfilling prophecy if they are not careful. Are people concerned about violence sure. But mass hysteria is just that hysteria. It creates it's own death if people don't use precaution with too much imagination. Be prepared but also be sensible and cautious of your own fear creating reality. Geez.
If it possibly can, the Hollywood leftist horde that populates the Academy NEVER fails to elect a "social justice" movie to take top honors.
Leni
The Civil Rights struggle in MA was a peripheral issue. My guess is that if you moved the story to Boston MA in the early part of the 20th century, and made the 'Help' young Irish girls, it wouldn't be that different.
“It is almost like a propaganda war is being waged against the conservative populace of this country.”
It is, but what is seen in this movie is a mirror image of not only the socialist/liberal whites but also left wing blacks who today are used and use their own old neighbors to attain power and destroy lives.
All living in gated communities on the hilltops over their created socialist hellholes. All the while their children go to private schools protected from the misery created by their parents.
I reluctantly went to see this propaganda film on Sunday.
My elderly aunt and uncle wanted to “treat” me to this movie. I warned them that I suspected it was a hate Whitey film, there to instill White Guilt in people who don’t have a racist bone in their body. People who have never harmed anyone. Ever.
Sure enough, it was filled with super negative white characters, so horrible it was laughable. And the black characters were in shown in the best possbile light.
I sat there for 2 hours, while the libtards in the audience showed their disapproval of the wildly stereotypical protrayal of hideous white behavior, by “tisk-tisking” loudly throughout the film.
Well, at least I got in for free. And it was worth every penny.
I give it a FAIL.
Don’t bother to see it.
Rather clean my oven, scrub floors, steam the rugs, weed the garden.
It had a few good laughs, but only as it painted all white people as horrible racists.
Gee, I thought they were moving on and calling us “terrorists” now!
Back then, a it was a lot like that.
I don't recall a close family-maid relationship in the book. There were a lot of maids who were truly members of the family--not "like" members, but were members of the family.
I loved Sadie and Mildred.
My daughter in law loved it..I trust her conservative values.... and good sense.
I was born in the late 40s and I grew up in New Orleans and Florida. We always had “help” and so did most of the families of our friends and family. We weren’t nasty or snobby to them and anyone who was ever in our employ was treated well and paid well. No areas of the house was off limits.
The lady to whom I was the closest and the one who worked for us the longest came when I was about four years old and was with us until I was twenty one. She was truly a part of the family. When I was nine and my father died, she cried with us at his funeral and many years later, when she died prematurely, my mom and I cried at her’s. She was a perfect fit for our family in every way.
I haven’t seen the movie yet, but I plan to do so.
Maybe they are trying to destroy the uppity TEA party by “nudging” them with a sharp elbow? Maybe they want to encourage flash mobs so that someone white decides to restore sanity by “discouraging” a flash mob with gunfire?
Nudge nudge
EDITORIAL: Obama: Whites need not apply
Liberals don’t want our government to mirror our society
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/19/obama-whites-need-not-apply/
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I shudder to think about how Obama loving ..now totally northernized Kathryn Stockett ..the darling of the Atlantic crowd actually treats where I grew up.
My grandfather was a contemporary of her grandfather's and I duck hunted at the Caldwell place in Sidon Miss for over a decade as a teen with her dad Robert.
I can tell you having being surrounded by black help too as a boy that we did not treat our help that way at all and I doubt Robert Sr or Jr did either.
She makes a big deal about separate staff bathrooms and dishes...anyone here every been in a Manhattan mansion...I have...same thing...The Biltmore..same thing...Newport...same thing. Same thing about it's so awful to call them maids or help...geezuss how silly...I guess housekeeper is so much sweeter and all..like stewardess versus flight attendant..same job.
We have folks who come clean out house every two weeks...we have nothing for staff like that but were it a huge house it might come with it.
Kathryn Stockett moved to New York with serious issues with mom and dad who divorced and her brother who finds her a cultural traitor and wrote a book she thought would endear her to her new world and it worked.
I have read enough of the book to know it's just another “bad South” piece of tripe meant to make folks feel morally superior.
Not sure how the movie is but I can only imagine...I have heard black political groups feel it's not damning of whites enough and makes black men look bad.
Whatever..I'm over it...you the think the Old South was bad...come to Jackson proper now and enjoy...check out how all is now so much better since evil white folks have been driven from power there. It's a veritable paradise over on Lynch street. or Delta Drive
Sorry...not your fault...I just take this one personally...an honest movie about the transition of the South the past 50 years would be refreshing but will never happen...you are either gonna get this crap or Black Snake Moan or some other tripe...Steel Magnolias..though a chick flick was non offensive except for casting Olympia Dukakis
I read an interview with Robert Jr (lawyer and retired real estate guy who was very gutsy visionary sort) about his daughter Kathryn and her book...he wondered how could she write with such knowledge about something she based 10 years before her birth and that after she spent almost 20 years in Manhattan that she was a New Yorker now and “not one of us anymore”. When asked if he had her phone number, he said “no”. Kathryn now lives in Atlanta with her maiden name married with one kid to some computer guy from up north..ironic the name thing..estranged but keeps the name. Her family was never Klan...that woulda been so stupid...no way...they were many social rungs above that..her grandfather may have joined the Citizen's Council...not sure..many rich men did.
One of the maids is suing Kathryn for using her as an inspiration with no credit and her brother..a lawyer..is supposedly behind it...bad blood there...in that family. I don't know her..she was child when I was a mid teen and up..but her dad was nice enough and I participated in their wagon rides they had in the fall and everyone knew who they were because they had owned all the bottomland in downtown Jackson and the Interstate and fairgrounds and state bldgs and hotels came in and made them rich...folks knew her parents were estranged and her mom was beautiful but spirited and ..hmmm..hard to keep home at night...it's not easy to say really..anyhow...The Help comes from that..it's complicated but it's just comes across to me as another denunciation of a way of life I grew up with written for a purpose and feeds right into folks who believe these myths...myths designed to make them feel superior in their homogeneous enclaves outside the south and relieve whatever misplaced guilt those in the South harbor..obviously not me.
Where I grew up...folks who were nasty to their help were frowned upon...and I never once heard of sexual harassment of a black maid...lord they were usually rotund and excellent cooks...ridiculous but hardly sex objects to anyone this side of Tallulah Bankhead
This is a post I have meant to write over this book...not directed at you as a flame naps. I though about doing a thread on it to rant.
Rich folks everywhere with serious staff have separate bathrooms and often kitchens too ...it's not a race thing.
It's just a separation especially if they are live ins and works better really...gives them their private quarters.
We did not have that but my grandfather did...but no one would refuse them food or water on the fine china.
I don't have illusions either...especially now. I know this...however bad it was then...black culture was intact...black illegitimacy was only 20%...black crime and corruption was negligible except on Farish streets on Saturday nites..and I could have my car break down any where and all the city was safe.
Today it has all fallen apart.
It's difficult to judge really how much better is progress. We were never truly segregated and now we are not fully integrated...Jackson has resegregated with richer blacks joining whites on the perimeter or in pockets of the Northeast holdouts.
Every year exponentially more whites murdered or raped etc by blacks than the total of all blacks killed during everything from Reconstruction thru Jim Crow
so what did we really gain?
a clearer conscience..mine was fine already after New York
or a larger black middle class that votes for entitlements after decades of pundits assuring us that once opportunity and education gave them this they would adopt out values
hell they shared our values more when they were oppressed.
I never thought it would turn out like this...it's a very mixed bag and the future is grim.
Right now my kinfolks who stayed in Clinton are trying to get out because they see where it's headed...down...they don't know whether to go to Raymond or Madison...maybe down below Terry...
helluva way to live....it's like South Africa..staying ahead of the blight
It’s been out for 2 weeks, no violence. I think you’re reading into things.