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Ariz. senator weighs possible run against Giffords
Yahoo (AP) ^ | 8/23/2011 | AP

Posted on 08/22/2011 10:12:41 PM PDT by South40

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — A Republican Arizona state senator says he has formed an exploratory committee to examine a possible run next year for the congressional seat held by Democrat Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

Sen. Frank Antenori, of Tucson, made extensive public comments last week about the committee but made his formal announcement Monday before a Republican women's group in Tucson.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; frankantenori; gabriellegiffords

1 posted on 08/22/2011 10:12:45 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

Time for her to go. Time for a Republican in the seat.


2 posted on 08/22/2011 10:17:25 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Go? Isn't she already gone? I mean, when is the last time she occupied the seat and voted?

I don't mean to sound cold but life goes on. If Giffords can't do the job she should get out of the way of someone who can.

3 posted on 08/22/2011 10:22:25 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry is to conservatism what Susan Smith was to motherhood)
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To: South40

The big question is whether she will run for reelection. She only won by a minority of the vote last time (the Libertarian deprived the Republican of a win).


4 posted on 08/22/2011 10:24:18 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: South40
"I mean, when is the last time she occupied the seat and voted? "

I think that she recently returned to vote on the debt ceiling thing...while I am not a dimmacrat, I am all for her continuation, and I have great respect for her.

5 posted on 08/22/2011 10:31:49 PM PDT by matthew fuller (If America is to survive, the national socialist democrat (NAZI) party must be destroyed.)
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To: matthew fuller

The people of her district can do as they like. Her staff can do most of the work of representation, but how much grasp of the legislation can someone have who has suffered such a trauma?


6 posted on 08/22/2011 10:35:28 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: South40

Boy. If Giffords says she is going to run again, how is anyone going to vote against the poor shooting victim Rep? Seems like a tall order. If she had any class, she would resign now for obvious reasons.


7 posted on 08/22/2011 10:39:00 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: matthew fuller

So let me understand your reasoning. Irrespective of the fact that she is a liberal democrat and votes against your beliefs, you are for her continuation in office because she got shot? I have respect for any number of people that I would not support for public office because their beliefs don’t parallel mine. It reminds me of a friend who told me that OJ Simpson could not have killed his wife and Ron Goldman “because he was a sports figure.”


8 posted on 08/22/2011 10:39:59 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: matthew fuller

I’m sorry she fell victim to a gun-wielding lunatic. With that said, I have zero respect for any congresscritter who votes to further Obama’s agenda of destroying this nation.


9 posted on 08/22/2011 10:40:57 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: vette6387
It reminds me of a friend who told me that OJ Simpson could not have killed his wife and Ron Goldman “because he was a sports figure.”

You know my brother? :-)

10 posted on 08/22/2011 10:42:14 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I don’t know how much class she has but she clearly does not possess the wherewithal to occupy a seat in congress. It’s not her fault but it is what it is.


11 posted on 08/22/2011 10:44:32 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: RobbyS
"how much grasp of the legislation can someone have who has suffered such a trauma?"

Vastly more than Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Barney Fwank, etc. I don't agree with her votes, I just respect her fight to walk, and to return to her job. Her electorate can and should judge her abilities in 2012.

12 posted on 08/22/2011 10:53:14 PM PDT by matthew fuller (If America is to survive, the national socialist democrat (NAZI) party must be destroyed.)
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To: vette6387
"you are for her continuation in office because she got shot?"

I am for her continuation in office, as long as she is re-elected by the residents of her district, and has not been ruled mentally deficient by her doctors. The way that she votes, while I disagree with the votes, is relevant only to her electorate. What exactly would you propose doing to remove her from her office???

13 posted on 08/22/2011 11:01:51 PM PDT by matthew fuller (If America is to survive, the national socialist democrat (NAZI) party must be destroyed.)
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To: South40
when is the last time she occupied the seat and voted?

The debt ceiling vote three weeks ago in a pathetic stunt by the 'Rats.

14 posted on 08/22/2011 11:15:29 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: South40

WAHOO!!! I LOVE FRANK!
He is so cool and in touch with the people. He is always out there talking to people, on the radio and so forth and has helped with some of the really good AZ legislation. Great guy.


15 posted on 08/22/2011 11:16:12 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: matthew fuller
Tell me of any employer in this nation who would have kept her on this long? Even a wounded armed services member reaches a point of discharge. Several have held office well beyond their mental abilities allowed them to function due to health reasons. Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, Strom Thurman to name a few.

If a person is medically incapaaciated beyond a reasonable time they should resign. Reasonable time measured in a few months. Most persons have 90 days sick leave tops. If an on the job injury Workman Comp kicks in but they still do not hold that job. Why should members of congress be exempt from realities most of us live under?

16 posted on 08/22/2011 11:17:37 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: matthew fuller

What “doctors?” The paid off ones?


17 posted on 08/22/2011 11:18:08 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: RobbyS

I’m not too crazy about being represented by some “staff”. It’s good she is improving, but I’ve heard she has only been in AZ once since the shooting and she now lives in Houston.

She is trying to use campaign funds to pay for security in Houston as well.


18 posted on 08/22/2011 11:19:31 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: cva66snipe
"If a person is medically incapaaciated "

Sorry- I didn't know that you knew Congresswoman Giffords. I had not heard that she is "medically incapaaciated".

19 posted on 08/22/2011 11:28:31 PM PDT by matthew fuller (If America is to survive, the national socialist democrat (NAZI) party must be destroyed.)
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To: matthew fuller
Sorry- I didn't know that you knew Congresswoman Giffords. I had not heard that she is "medically incapaaciated".

Never been around serious head trauma patients have you? Many take years not months to heal. Many never return to previous mental capacity. Why all the secrecy as too her condition as well?

20 posted on 08/22/2011 11:42:29 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe
The Houston doctors say that her recovery is miraculous. I believe them. I believe in her miracle, even if she is a Democrat. I have seen no secrecy on their part. They held many press meetings. If you have knowledge to dispute her recovery, then you are more knowledgeable than I.
21 posted on 08/22/2011 11:58:43 PM PDT by matthew fuller (If America is to survive, the national socialist democrat (NAZI) party must be destroyed.)
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To: matthew fuller

“I believe in her miracle, even if she is a Democrat.”

Then you are a sucker. According to her staff, she has trouble with big words. Ever read any legislation? Right now, she just votes as she is told to vote. OK, she did that before being shot as well.

Even before being shot, she divided her time between DC & Houston. As one of her constituents, I find that appalling. She also won by 1% of the vote last time, while outspending her opponent and lying about her record and support. She also has a history of standing in the well of the House, prepared to change her vote if Pelosi needed her to do so - is THAT a courageous person?


22 posted on 08/23/2011 12:07:06 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: matthew fuller

The TV anchor who was injured in Iraq suffered a similar but less serious wound. He has still not returned to work. She should not run in 2012.


23 posted on 08/23/2011 12:11:50 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: South40

If she were a Republican the media would be demanding access to her medical records and asking that she step down from her office.


24 posted on 08/23/2011 12:18:23 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: matthew fuller
The Houston doctors say that her recovery is miraculous.

Miraculous recovery for someone who took what she did would be being able to walk, speak, and understand verbal commands etc. I saw two women have miraculous recoveries from head trauma. Both were in accidents. Yea several years later both were somewhat functional. One could read and carry on a basic conversation. That compared to where they were immediately after injury was a miracle. I knew another guy a patient where I once worked who had been in a nursing home 5 years with a head injury. In many ways it was like talking to a child. The next time I saw him he was living on his own in an apartment. His recovery even from where I first met him was miraculous.

I have some knowledge because I hung around a spinal and head injury rehab unit for a few months for my wifes spinal cord rehab and I've worked in nursing homes.

Maybe you should read this article Gabrielle Giffords Makes Debt Ceiling Vote; No Decision on Re-Election Campaign Where are HER comments at? Do you not find that strange? I don't. She obviously can function somewhat which is indeed miraculous. Yes in another year maybe longer she may make a lot more miraculous progress. But should her district go without full time representation?

By all means she should receive full retirement compensation as well as medical care as this was on the job injury. Beyond that she should get no better breaks than what you, me, the average person next door should get. I hope she recovers 100%. But I know most of the time it takes several years if ever to gain it back.

25 posted on 08/23/2011 12:22:29 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: antceecee
They'd be demanding she step down, blasting her for neglecting her constituents. If Giffords were in a heavy Dem district, she'd have already been eased out by now. They don't want to risk her resigning since it means a Republican would probably win it.
26 posted on 08/23/2011 12:25:22 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: matthew fuller

You sound like a DNC press release.


27 posted on 08/23/2011 12:34:10 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Mr Rogers

I believe what the Houston doctors have said about her “miraculous recovery” their words. If she is still mentally incapacitated, she should not be voting. But I don’t know who decides that at this point. If she is still mentally deficient, then she should be replaced in the next election. In such a case, I would both work and vote against her, if I were in her district.


28 posted on 08/23/2011 12:35:36 AM PDT by matthew fuller (If America is to survive, the national socialist democrat (NAZI) party must be destroyed.)
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To: RobbyS

I don’t believe that she will.


29 posted on 08/23/2011 12:42:49 AM PDT by matthew fuller (If America is to survive, the national socialist democrat (NAZI) party must be destroyed.)
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To: matthew fuller
The woman is a Democrat, therefore she was Mentally Incapacitated long before the Shootings took place.

I can only hope she achieves the best outcome in her recovery. Too bad she will just end up being a Martyr for the Liberal cause. It is unfortunate that people think that Congress is a Rehabilitation Center though.

30 posted on 08/23/2011 12:47:24 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now.)
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To: cva66snipe

Everyone is scared to admit the obvious. A person in her condition has no business being an elected rep. Period. What happened was terrible. That has nothing to do with her current fitness for the job.

Republicans should hammer Dems through the wall for using a shooting victim as a political prop to further their own ends and question every vote she makes on competency grounds. Dems wheeled an incoherent Robert Byrd into many votes that he could no longer read nor understand. It disgusted me then and what they are doing with Giffords disgusts me even more.

If Repbus would get their tails out there with the TRUTH of how people in her district are being ‘disenfranchised’ of their constitutional representation, and how Dems are acting like the ghouls they are, then they would have a chance at winning. As long as they cower in fear, Dems will keep exploiting a bad situation.


31 posted on 08/23/2011 12:49:50 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: cva66snipe
"By all means she should receive full retirement compensation as well as medical care as this was on the job injury. Beyond that she should get no better breaks than what you, me, the average person next door should get. I hope she recovers 100%. But I know most of the time it takes several years if ever to gain it back. "

I believe that she probably will choose not to run in 2012. But even if she does, I believe that she will NOT be returned to Congress by the Tuscon electorate. I also believe that any Republican efforts to oust her for mental incapacity prior to the 2012 elections will be explosively detrimental to Republicans.

32 posted on 08/23/2011 12:50:54 AM PDT by matthew fuller (If America is to survive, the national socialist democrat (NAZI) party must be destroyed.)
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To: Norm Lenhart; matthew fuller
In all likelyhood I believe the reality of her injury will make another campaign highly difficult if not impossible. I don't see it happening. Being able to walk into congress for a vote is one thing. Being able to campaign, make speeches, and return to a full time schedule in DC is a completely different matter. Being able to function at home is not the same as being able to work. Believe me I know. I retired medically because I lost the mental and physical ability to do my job.

Congress does need to set some stricter cognitive standards and rules of resonable mental fitness for holding office. That goes for both parties.

33 posted on 08/23/2011 1:26:20 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

“Congress does need to set some stricter cognitive standards and rules of resonable mental fitness for holding office. That goes for both parties. “

Couldn’t agree more.


34 posted on 08/23/2011 2:06:38 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: cva66snipe
"Congress does need to set some stricter cognitive standards and rules of resonable mental fitness for holding office. That goes for both parties. "

I agree completely with this. With Cong. Reps, they have to run every two years. If they suffer a mental disabling event, they will be subject to a re-election relatively soon. With Senators, it's different, as they have six year terms. Something needs to be done here. I have no idea, except possibly a temporary appointmemt to replace a disabled Senator. If this scenario (Gifford's) had happened to a Senator, some State could be screwed for five plus years.

35 posted on 08/23/2011 2:11:28 AM PDT by matthew fuller (If America is to survive, the national socialist democrat (NAZI) party must be destroyed.)
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To: matthew fuller

Mentally deficient is a subjective term. The question is can she handle the responsibilities of voting on legislation which can not only effect her own constituency but all of America.

My understanding is she is operating at a “diminished level” and we do not need anymore “diminished” mental capabilities in Washington then we already have.


36 posted on 08/23/2011 2:20:15 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: South40

I believe that she was on the House floor last week.


37 posted on 08/23/2011 4:10:45 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: South40
Sadly, with today's HORRIBLE media, anyone who runs against her will be the most awful person since Hitler!!!

IF she had her constiuents needs in mind, she wouuld take a PASS on this election and say she'll come back in 2 years to run for that seat again.....but hey, she's a DEM....not going to happen.

38 posted on 08/23/2011 4:16:02 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: All

she really doesn’t need to read, write or actually be able to understand what’s going on to vote that way Pelosi tells her. It probably helps if she has no cognitive ability actually.

I do hope she does decide to leave but it would not surprise me if she stayed for the sympathy vote.


39 posted on 08/23/2011 4:17:14 AM PDT by newnhdad
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To: South40

The debates would be interesting.


40 posted on 08/23/2011 4:45:07 AM PDT by RetSignman (It's Summertime...the "Goebbles Warmers" are back from hibernation.)
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To: Ann Archy

If someone decides to run against her he/she should make the campaign about OBAMA, especially if the economy is still in bad shape next fall. Don’t even mention her name or anything about her, especially her injury.


41 posted on 08/23/2011 5:16:16 AM PDT by dupree
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To: Suz in AZ

Thank you Suz. It’s nice to hear from someone who knows him.


42 posted on 08/23/2011 9:12:02 AM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: South40

No prob! He is former military, pro gun, pro constitution, love America, common sense, get out and talk to the people kind of guy. He is likeable and tells it like it is. He doesn’t beat around the bush and if there is something that can’t get done, he will tell you why.


43 posted on 08/23/2011 11:21:06 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: Suz in AZ

I forgot to mention that he won his last election by a large margin as well.


44 posted on 08/23/2011 11:22:09 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: South40
Look, we all know that if she runs, she wins. It does not matter if she even shows up in the district to campaign. The sympathy vote will be there like the DNC operative "Matthew Fuller" posting on this thread. Hell, she could even run her dog as a stand-in and the bleeding hearts would have good things to say about bow-wows.

Not only that but if the republican even mentions the fact that she is non-compos-mentus, he will immediately be labeled a terrorist by the state-run media and arrested by the FBI as complicit in her shooting.
45 posted on 08/23/2011 11:50:48 AM PDT by fifedom
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Thanks South40.


46 posted on 08/27/2011 4:39:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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