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Dog Heartworm Drug Supply Runs Out (Doggie Lover's PING)
My FOX ^ | 12Aug11 | Lari Barager

Posted on 08/23/2011 7:14:11 AM PDT by Marie

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To: brytlea

Yep. That is one of the primary reasons we have never moved: we have a “well-trained” vet! As breeders, we really appreciate that he is a reproductive specialist, a superb diagnostician, and an excellent surgeon. He has breeders and show people coming in from out-of-state!

You know that you spend too much at the vets when you (and some of your dogs!) get holiday cards... And I am not talking just Christmas cards!


61 posted on 08/23/2011 1:12:14 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: LaRueLaDue

I was very upset to leave my last vet (but husband’s job dictates where we live). One year she sent us not only a Christmas card but a GIFT certificate for $25! If you think THAT doesn’t suggest how much I spent there that year... LOL But I loved her, she was awesome, she listened to me, but she always always told me what SHE thought as well. We were a team. I have had a more difficult time finding a vet I really like where we are now. Part of the problem is I have far fewer dogs so I see them infrequently and so it’s harder to build that relationship.


62 posted on 08/23/2011 1:16:53 PM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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To: Marie
my daughter's migraine medication is no longer being manufactured

Whoa...what was discontinued?

63 posted on 08/23/2011 1:26:47 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Terrorist Hobbit)
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To: brytlea

My wife is quite demanding of a vet: she insists on being able to be present at all surguries; likes to “go in the back” with the dogs, when they are taken out of the initial room; and does quite a bit of over-the-phone business. At our present vets, all the staff know our family by first name, and we have sold and given dogs to several of the staff. We also get a “breeder” discount, which is about 15% across the board, which is not something to sneeze at! Additionally, the vet’s son recently got hired as a weather person at one of the local TV stations, where my sister-in-law also works, who does Collies and rescues... Seems sort of incestuous at times....!


64 posted on 08/23/2011 1:34:44 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: Marie

This is just an ObamaCare dry run...they’re just gauging the reaction for when they have to tell you that Granny’s not gonna make it cause we have to save the medicine for younger folks...


65 posted on 08/23/2011 1:34:52 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: brytlea

I recommend ivermectin to many of my clients with multiple big dogs, but only if I think the client is responsible enough to measure out the right dose. If you have more than one greater than 50 pound dog the cost of Heartgard or Intercepter is painful, and for me having to buy them in cartons of 10 (as is required) is crippling. I carry Iverhart in my clinic because it’s the cheapest packaged heartworm prevention I have found.


66 posted on 08/23/2011 2:04:07 PM PDT by YoungCurmudgeon
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To: Marie

So just to get this straight, the drug used to treat already infected dogs is not available. But the preventative drug still is?


67 posted on 08/23/2011 2:09:34 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: Marie
All they can do for him now is give him the monthly preventative and not allow any new heartworms to form, but that the adults will still be there.
The article says that there's an expensive alternative, but the vet told us that there was NO alternative treatment to kill the adults.

This is absolutely false and a shame your vet doesn't know otherwise. Being heavy into animal rescue in the South where so many rescue dogs turn up heartworm positive, I've used the "slow kill" method and it DOES work. There are no two ways about it. It works.

Under my vet's supervision I've put dogs through this treatment and they test negative in about 7 months. I actually prefer it to the "fast kill" (Immeticide injection treatment method). With the slow-kill method, the heartworm preventative is given twice a month PLUS the antibiotic Doxycycline is given. The Doxycycline is a must; it's the key to the success.

Send a private email with your email address and I'll send you a pdf I wrote because I was getting so many requests for the info.
68 posted on 08/23/2011 2:11:44 PM PDT by Shannon
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To: LaRueLaDue

All harder to do when you only have one dog (or two). Hopefully I will not be in this situation forever, but for now, it is what it is.
My best situation was when I worked for my vet. Obviously she was my favorite. :)


69 posted on 08/23/2011 2:13:46 PM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

midrin.

It’s the only thing that works for her.


70 posted on 08/23/2011 2:22:07 PM PDT by Marie (I agree with everything that Rick Perry is saying. I just wish that *he* did. (NO to Bush II))
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To: headstamp 2
So just to get this straight, the drug used to treat already infected dogs is not available. But the preventative drug still is?

That's what I got.

71 posted on 08/23/2011 2:24:18 PM PDT by Marie (I agree with everything that Rick Perry is saying. I just wish that *he* did. (NO to Bush II))
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To: skippermd

check post 23


72 posted on 08/23/2011 2:27:27 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: YoungCurmudgeon

Yes, I worked for a vet years ago and people do lots of goofy things. One client injected something a breeder had given her in a syringe (I don’t recall what it was now, it wasn’t ivermectin, but it was supposed to be given orally and the client had to find a needle to put on the syringe in order to inject it!).

I don’t have a problem affording preventative at this stage in my life, especially for one or two dogs —it IS expensive but I spent about $500 last time I was in the vet for my dog’s yearly visit including her vaccs and a cyst the vet wanted to look at so the heartworm meds were the least of my problems. :) Besides I’m far more irritated by the 75$ a year licensing fee I pay out here. I don’t feel like I get anything for that except annoyed.


73 posted on 08/23/2011 2:36:10 PM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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Marie,,, You may want to give the dog a baby aspirin before you start the Ivermectin treatment ,as to thin the blood.
74 posted on 08/23/2011 3:39:34 PM PDT by piroque (Southern born and Raised,)
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To: YoungCurmudgeon
I had a HW+ rescue Sheltie. As I'm sure you know, the University of Washington is the only place in the country that tests for the gene to see if the dog will react to Ivermectin. Best $70 I ever spent. She didn't have that mutant gene. We did the slow-kill method and she converted in under a year.

ps. I love my vet. He treats all my rescues like first class "citizens" and even gives me prescriptions to Walmart to save me money.
75 posted on 08/23/2011 5:44:41 PM PDT by Shannon
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To: LaRueLaDue

cattle dosage per weight


76 posted on 08/23/2011 6:46:24 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: Marie

I don’t know what your daughter’s migraine medication was. But there is a whole new group of meds that actually stop the migraine rather than just alleviating the symptoms. They work much better.

The medication I am most familiar with is Zomig.

http://www.zomig.com/zomig-coupon.aspx

The original medication of this class was Imitrex. But I think Zomig is an improvement.


77 posted on 08/23/2011 8:16:31 PM PDT by dervish (female candidates: the last frontier)
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To: YoungCurmudgeon

I have 3 of those dogs. Is there an alternative for them?


78 posted on 08/23/2011 8:34:04 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: YoungCurmudgeon
Cattle injectable works well for multi dog homes. The correct dose for prevention is in the range of a few MICROGRAMS per pound.

For the collies and such, the preventative is USUALLY ok, but the deworming dose is way too high, and they will be seriously affected.

For those who use the paste, DON'T. You have no way of accurately measuring, and it will cause considerable damage, if not death.

On the heartgard package, divide the amount of active ingredient by the weight of the highest pound dog on the package, and that is your highest safe dose per pound you can use of the injectable. Be warned, the injectable is in milligrams per cc, not micrograms, so a small mistake is a 1000 X overdose.

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If you are not good with numbers (not willing to bet your dog's life on your mathematical genious)ask you vet to calculate the correct dose for your dog. If they won't do it, ask them why?

Most are not greedy. They just don't want to be resposible for your dog dying when you screw up your calculations.

79 posted on 08/23/2011 8:40:04 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot

ps, the injectable is in liquid form, however, it is given oral for prevention, never injected.


80 posted on 08/23/2011 8:43:28 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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