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Qaddafi's Downfall, Obama's Victory
The Atlantic ^ | AUG 22 2011

Posted on 08/23/2011 2:37:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway

For Barack Obama, "leading from behind" has never looked so ... decisive. With Libyan rebels celebrating in downtown Tripoli, and Muammar el-Qaddafi apparently in hiding, the president's supporters are claiming vindication for a much-criticized approach to regime change in the Arab world.

Obama's strategy amounted to staying resolutely behind the scenes throughout the five-month NATO air operation. To wit: Don't say the United States is openly engaged in ousting Qaddafi. Don't even concede the United States is going to war. Take cover behind a political imprimatur for action from the Arab League and United Nations, and let Europe lead the strike forces. Then modestly take credit--albeit only with a restrained statement on Monday from Martha's Vineyard, where Obama is vacationing.

MORE FROM NATIONAL JOURNAL: Romney Playing Hands-Off When It Comes to Rick Perry Could We See a 'Libya Stimulus'? Huntsman Slams GOP Presidential Field "I think this is a tremendous achievement," said James Steinberg, Hillary Rodham Clinton's recently departed deputy secretary of State, who is now dean of the Maxwell School at Syracuse University. "The biggest factor to date is the fact that we [Americans] have not been the problem. People aren't saying the Americans are trying to do regime change. Whether in Tunisia or Libya or Egypt, we are seen as supportive of others. It's an obvious contrast with the previous administration.... And the fact that tyrants are not able to rally their people against us shows the nuance and skill of this. It's working."

Obama, with his administration in crisis over a staggering economy and mounting U.S. debt as he winds down two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan,

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gaddafi; illegalwar; noflyzone; obama; obama4alqueda; obama4sharia; obamaswar; regimechange; warpowers
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1 posted on 08/23/2011 2:38:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

My guess is the average American is not very concerned with what happens in Libya. How much of taxpayers’ money did Obama spend on Libya? How much will he promise for their future?


2 posted on 08/23/2011 2:39:31 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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I will not be surprised if Gaddafy goes like someone who has nothing left to lose.


3 posted on 08/23/2011 2:42:03 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: nickcarraway

Yet another situation where Obama voted “present” and now he wants to portray himself as George Freakin’ Patton.


4 posted on 08/23/2011 2:42:30 PM PDT by festusbanjo (This is what happens when you hire a guy to run the country that hadn't run anything but his mouth)
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To: nickcarraway

Leave it to the elitists at the Atlantic to think Gadhafi’s overthrow somehow matters to Americans trying to find jobs and figure out how they’re going to pay their bills. Meanwhile, the same East Coast snobs snivel about Saddam’s overthrow and consider it a grave injustice. No war for oil here Atlantic?? This isn’t Obama’s victory, it’s the victory of the Libyan people. Obama didn’t risk a thing. Indeed, Obama had to be dragged kicking and screaming by the Europeans into even doing anything—and even then he denied we were involved during most of the conflict. Now suddenly it’s “Obama’s victory?” And let’s not forget he violated the constitution to carry out his end of it by not getting Congressional authority. Meanwhile, what will it cost us to rebuild Libya? Some victory.


5 posted on 08/23/2011 2:44:01 PM PDT by MissesBush (Raising taxes on an economy in a death spiral is like taking up smoking when you have emphysema)
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To: nickcarraway

The good vibe will last about as long as that great victory over Bin Laden - a week or two.

Of course if the Muzzie B’hood acts as expected, it’s another negative, but trivial compared to the economic problems.


6 posted on 08/23/2011 2:44:49 PM PDT by nascarnation
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Give the warmonger another peace prize and he can start more wars!


7 posted on 08/23/2011 2:44:49 PM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: nickcarraway

Just like Jimmah and Iran.


8 posted on 08/23/2011 2:46:11 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, talk about “Mission Accomplished” eh? Guess it all depends on who’s doing the boasting.

It remains to be seen whether what now follows in Libya will be Switzerland, or Somalia. The latter seems more likely. Let’s see where we are a year from now before we start claiming some great “victory”.


9 posted on 08/23/2011 2:46:55 PM PDT by Argus
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The good vibe will last until the tribal civial war starts. Then, the news media will behave as though Libya does not exist.


10 posted on 08/23/2011 2:50:34 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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Whether the world rejoices or curses Obama's encouragement of the rebel forces in Libya, Egypt and Syria will hinge on the governments that come to power.

My money is on fundamentalist Islam and Iran style regimes. Not good.

11 posted on 08/23/2011 2:50:49 PM PDT by Vinnie
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It's changed from a shithole with a boxed-in scumbag for a leader, into a shithole with a leaderless al Qaeda class picking over the weapons of mass destruction spoils up for grabs.

Yea.

12 posted on 08/23/2011 2:51:23 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: nickcarraway

Atlantic magazine is such a Leftist pimp rag .


13 posted on 08/23/2011 2:51:39 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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“...the president’s supporters are claiming vindication for a much-criticized approach to regime change in the Arab world.”

The critics will, of an absolute certainty, be vindicated when Libya emerges with a new leadership which is light years worse than Gaddafi ever was.

This whole thing has been folly right from the beginning.


14 posted on 08/23/2011 2:52:03 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Army Air Corps

Or find a way to blame it on the Tea Party.


15 posted on 08/23/2011 2:52:14 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: Army Air Corps

civial = civil


16 posted on 08/23/2011 2:52:20 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: ilovesarah2012

It’s said he spent in excess of $100 Million..............all borrowed.


17 posted on 08/23/2011 2:53:17 PM PDT by RC2
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So an “Illegal war for oil” is all A-OK, and a promise that it will be over in “weeks not months” is all A-OK six months later, and no need for Congress to approve it because of NATO and/or it wasn't “war” it was a “kinetic military action”.

Yeah.

THAT’s the ticket!

18 posted on 08/23/2011 2:54:27 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: nickcarraway
I am having a problem defining victory.
19 posted on 08/23/2011 2:54:39 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: comebacknewt

Indeed.

“Obama’s plans for Libya would have worked had he not been needlessly distracted by the Tea Party terrorists during the debt ceiling debate.”


20 posted on 08/23/2011 2:55:31 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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