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Daily Kos writer: We could use ‘global superplague’ to stop overpopulation
Life News ^ | 8/22/11 | Jeremy Kryn

Posted on 08/23/2011 4:09:13 PM PDT by wagglebee

August 21, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A prominent left-wing American political blog has come under fire after publishing one writer’s quip that the world needs “a global superplague” because “there are too many goddam people already.” Daily Kos contributor Jon Stafford’s August 10 post, in which Stafford described himself as “Not Pro-Choice, Pro-Abortion,” drew immediate attention in the blogosphere.

While Stafford said that his remarks are partly “facetious,” he went on to say, “nevertheless there is a seed of truth in it, because I believe that the world is wildly overpopulated and that we must take steps as a society to reduce it. 

“This will undoubtedly be met with accusations of callousness, but we would could really use is a global superplague.  The Black Death may have been horrible, but without it there would never have been a Renaissance.”

In the same blog post Stafford stated his belief in legalizing marijuana and homosexual “marriage” and his radical atheism. Just one day earlier, Stafford had said, “Rick Perry scares me.  Michele Bachmann too.  Not because they are crazy (although they are), but because they are charismatic and crazy. Because they tap into a strain of crazy that runs deep and strong in this country, a Christian fanaticism that is every bit as ugly as its Islamic counterpart.  And every bit as destructive.”

Commenting on Stafford’s post, Population Research Institute President Steven Mosher said, “The world is by no stretch of the imagination, overpopulated.”

“Anyone who argues that the Black Death, which decimated Europe’s population for a hundred years, was a good thing, needs counseling,” Mosher said. “When did it come to be ‘socially liberal’ to espouse genocide?  I thought that the Left was supposed to be opposed to such things?” 

“Of course,” Mosher continued, Stafford “may think that by not identifying a particular group to be eliminated, he escapes the charge of genocide, but I don’t think so. The history of population control program is replete with examples of the majority ethnic, religious, class, etc., group using abortion, sterilization and contraception to reduce the numbers of the minority group.  So, in practical terms, population control is genocide.”

In an interview with LifeSiteNews, American Life League President Judie Brown said, “On a practical matter having nothing to do with the avowed atheist, ‘overpopulation’ is not a problem at all.”

“The real problem is corrupt governments bloated with funds that are donated for the specific purpose of aiding the poor that never get to the poor,” Brown said. “The real problem is politics gone awry.  You might summarize it as selfishness.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dailykos; deatheaters; democrats; genocidalleft; genocide; jonstafford; leftuniverse; liberalfascism; liberalism; liberals; lifehate; molech; moloch; moralabsolutes; murderousleft; overpopulation; populationcontrol; progressives; prolife
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To: wagglebee
the Catholic Church changing the definition of usury from not being allowed to charge any interest to a prohibition against excessive interest.

The presenter on my "War and World History" lectures emphasized this change in finance. It's a very interesting point with many ramifications.

51 posted on 08/23/2011 4:48:26 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There is only one remedy for ignorance and thoughtlessness, and that is literacy." R. Mitchell)
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To: Tax-chick
The Renaissance began in Florence, Italy and that was because a few banking families (most notably the Medicis) were making more money than they knew what to do with financing the spice and silk trade.
52 posted on 08/23/2011 4:52:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
".... Because they tap into a strain of crazy that runs deep and strong in this country, a Christian fanaticism that is every bit as ugly as its Islamic counterpart. And every bit as destructive.”

Captain Hyperbole to the rescue, because everyone knows Michele Bachmann is the equivalent of Osama bin Laden!

OMG, Run! Michelle has a simitar!

53 posted on 08/23/2011 4:53:37 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: wagglebee
"While Stafford said that his remarks are partly “facetious,” he went on to say, “nevertheless there is a seed of truth in it, because I believe that the world is wildly overpopulated and that we must take steps as a society to reduce it."

Set an example and start with yourself, buddy (then again, these whack jobs never practice what they preach).

54 posted on 08/23/2011 4:53:44 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: wagglebee

There was a History Channel or A&E documentary about the Medicis that emphasized their role in the revival/reinvention of classical civilization. Really neat stuff.


55 posted on 08/23/2011 4:57:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There is only one remedy for ignorance and thoughtlessness, and that is literacy." R. Mitchell)
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To: wagglebee

For all those like Kos, who think that we need to do something about “overpopulation”, I say, which way would you like to go, rope, gun, poison...what? I’ll send it over. I’m not a part of the problem, but they surely are. So Kos, you go first. Hey, maybe they’d enjoy Jim Jones Juice.


56 posted on 08/23/2011 4:59:47 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: wagglebee

I’ve got a theory that the rise of the West came from storytellers who brought bits of odd things, herbs, a piece of jewelry. Troubadors and such. That, and the break that came in the Mass in Latin that portrayed the Passion of Christ in the local languages.

I figure people who were trying to escape whatever, or had that feeling of wanting to explore, just plain got curious. A couple of them hit pay dirt.

Of course, gun powder helped.........


57 posted on 08/23/2011 5:02:59 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Tax-chick
They were a force in southern Europe for four centuries.
58 posted on 08/23/2011 5:03:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: El Cid
Because asking you to take a tract, or telling you to repent and 'Seek Ye the Lord While He May Be Found' -- is every bit as destructive as lopping your head off, blowing up buses, or plowing planes into buildings...

... or wishing a massive super plague to wipe out humanity. Palin and Perry are "crazy" because they aren't hoping for global genocide.

What is interesting to observe, is that these madmen who wish death and misery on most of the world don't realize that it is those in the urban areas that will most likely succumb to the horrors first as carriers of the disease will fly, drive, or be shipped in from around the globe. Those most likely to survive are those who have seen the upcoming disaster and have prepared to go underground while the savages eat each other.

59 posted on 08/23/2011 5:03:44 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: wagglebee

Yeah, I know. I was lazy and stupid. (Nobody’s perfect.) Please accept my apologies.

However, I believe my point is still valid: Buy PM and hold


60 posted on 08/23/2011 5:05:13 PM PDT by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: wagglebee

Image a world with no Leftists.... wait, what am I saying?


61 posted on 08/23/2011 5:05:27 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Fight for Liberty)
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To: wagglebee

Mr. Stafford, if you take a gun and blow your brains out, and take one for the team, then I might be impressed.


62 posted on 08/23/2011 5:06:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wagglebee

Daily Kos writer: We could use ‘global superplague’ to stop overpopulation >>>>

he should try it on himself and his family first.


63 posted on 08/23/2011 5:11:39 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: wagglebee

I like your simple answer. Refreshing and probably true!


64 posted on 08/23/2011 5:12:07 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: wagglebee

Dear Daily Pus.

The Powers That Be have a much better plan to decimate the world’s population: starvation.

Wake up and smell the rotting corpse that will be your flesh, too.


65 posted on 08/23/2011 5:18:19 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: edcoil

That is because they are the descendants of the early Darwinists, who had an incestuous relationship with the early eugenicists.

Their common goal was to rid the world of those they considered genetically inferior (sound like anyone you’ve heard of with a funny mustache?).

Their goal is to eliminate those they consider to be stupid (ever hear them refer to conservatives as anything but?), extreme (notice how all religious people are extreme), and dangerous (patriots who fight for freedom are now ‘terrorists’).

Don’t be fooled. They believe they are superior and if they get us out of their way, they can....FINALLY....create that Utopia that we keep upsetting despite their heroic efforts.


66 posted on 08/23/2011 5:21:50 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe; edcoil
That is because they are the descendants of the early Darwinists, who had an incestuous relationship with the early eugenicists.

To be accurate, the early Darwinists WERE the early eugenicists, the Darwin family and their in-laws founded the eugenics movement and were its leaders for the better part of a century.

67 posted on 08/23/2011 5:24:17 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: americanophile

I’ll buy it.


68 posted on 08/23/2011 5:28:31 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: wagglebee

oops....should have read it more carefully.


69 posted on 08/23/2011 5:48:50 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: wagglebee

You are absolutely correct. That’s why I used the term “incestuous.”


70 posted on 08/23/2011 5:55:15 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: wagglebee

Him first.


71 posted on 08/23/2011 5:58:23 PM PDT by onedoug (!)
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To: Ernie Kaputnik
Okie dokie, Senior Mosher, you liberal POS.

The guy you want to address is named Stafford. Steven Mosher is a conservative, pro-life Catholic who was pointing out just how completely evil Stafford's ideas are.

72 posted on 08/23/2011 6:04:18 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: wagglebee

This is common crap from left wing cowards. I’ve dealt with these turds when I was in local government.

But I promise: confront these left wing Nazis in a dark parking lot, alone, with no witnesses around and challenge them to a fight. They will run. They will piss in their pants. They will beg for mommy to protect them.


73 posted on 08/23/2011 6:28:03 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: wagglebee
"Daily Kos writer: We could use ‘global superplague’ to stop overpopulation"

You first, buddy.

74 posted on 08/23/2011 6:39:09 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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To: Centurion2000
Send him a knife with the words "YOU FIRST" engraved on it. Self hating humans advocating genocide make me sick.

He can keep it next to the one he already has, the one that says "Blut und Ehre".

75 posted on 08/23/2011 6:40:49 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: wagglebee
"A prominent left-wing American political blog has come under fire after publishing one writer’s quip that the world needs “a global superplague” because “there are too many goddam people already.” "

Yet, there are plenty of places all over the globe, many here in the USA, where I could spend a year without encountering another living soul. There are miles upon miles of unused land all over the earth that could be used for living space and to produce food (far in excess of need) for many times many more people. Tell me how, exactly, that means there are too many people. Please. Maybe take a step outside the city every once in a while to see the difference, you giant, blubbering retard.

76 posted on 08/23/2011 6:44:47 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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To: wagglebee

The SCARY part is that there are people in the Administration, RIGHT NOW, that agree with him...


77 posted on 08/23/2011 6:53:41 PM PDT by tcrlaf (PREFRONTAL LOBOTOMISTS FOR OBAMA2012!)
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To: wagglebee

If I can ever perfect and patent my superplague gun, I’ll aim it at the Daily Kos douchebag first. After all, he should walk the walk.


78 posted on 08/23/2011 6:59:12 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: wagglebee
There is no over population. Cherterton said it best:

Chesterton on birth control/population control:

In 1925 Chesterton wrote an introduction to Charles Dickens’ A Christmas Carol in which he said that “The answer to anyone who talks about the surplus population is to ask him, whether he is part of the surplus population; or if not, how he knows he is not.”

Elsewhere, in an essay titled “Social Reform vs. Birth Control,” Chesterton argued that it is typically the wealthy elite who are interested in promoting population control as a solution to poverty, often simply as a means of avoiding dealing with the more difficult root problems that lead to poverty. "If [the Birth-Controller] can prevent his servants from having families, he need not support those families. Why the devil should he?” wrote Chesterton. “The landlord or the employer says in his hearty and handsome fashion: ‘You really cannot expect me to deprive myself of my money. But I will make a sacrifice. I will deprive myself of your children.’


79 posted on 08/23/2011 7:08:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: hsalaw

It is a bloodthirsty and abusive mentality. It should NEVER get near power in a constitutional Republic.


80 posted on 08/23/2011 7:09:34 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: The Theophilus
Re: 59

You hit on the key word: "madmen".

'...they became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,... Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves..."

Romans 1 has these fellows pretty well pegged...

81 posted on 08/23/2011 7:10:44 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid

With committed Leftists it always eventually comes down to mass murder in the name of the “Common Good”


82 posted on 08/23/2011 7:43:24 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: wagglebee
These “liberals” need to step up and be gassed. It would help against overpopulation and they would not be hypocrites. They would put their lives where their mouths are.
83 posted on 08/23/2011 8:08:37 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD Jesus Christ is the antidote, the one and only antidote.)
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To: rdcbn
With committed Leftists it always eventually comes down to mass murder in the name of the “Common Good”

True. That is because their god is the Government - or the State. If puny people need to die for the advancement of the State - then all is well.

If your God is the True God - the Creator of Heaven and Earth, who created man in His own image - you are going to have to respect people. We realized that we were rescued from the dung heap, and as such we agree with the command:

Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

We have been rescued and redeemed when we were enemies of God. The least we can do is be patient and caring of those that are currently enemies of God. We were once enemies, but Christ died for us and brought us into His Kingdom by the work of the the Holy Spirit who gave us a new birth.

Romans 5:5b ... because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us...
Romans 5:8-10 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

So our human nature is frail, and we tend to lose our tempers -- but we have to remember that Satan has blinded the eyes of these people. And as a result of their blindness - they create their false idols - and are in a very pitiful position.

84 posted on 08/23/2011 8:11:51 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: wagglebee

These people are EVIL no other way to describe them.


85 posted on 08/23/2011 8:33:23 PM PDT by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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There are so many of these people out there, spouting off about how great it would be if there were far fewer people on the planet (some of them go on about how wonderful the earth would be if there were NO human beings on the planet.)

Just once, I wish these "do-gooders" would set a good example and off themselves, but NO! It's always somebody else who needs to be eliminated.

Mark

86 posted on 08/23/2011 8:35:06 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: wagglebee
A prominent left-wing American political blog has come under fire after publishing one writer’s quip that the world needs “a global superplague” because “there are too many goddam people already.”

Seems to me the solution is obvious.
Baby steps.

Start with members of idiot "Political Blogs" that nobody visits anyway, except other idiots.

87 posted on 08/23/2011 9:17:47 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: dfwgator
Mr. Stafford, if you take a gun and blow your brains out...

Oh the irony!

You do realize that you're asking the impossible, right?

Right?

88 posted on 08/23/2011 9:28:30 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Publius6961

Ok, how about asking him to swallow Drano?


89 posted on 08/23/2011 9:31:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Ok, how about asking him to swallow Drano?

Works for me!

.... wait...

May I rephrase that?

90 posted on 08/23/2011 9:34:37 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: wagglebee

If only these genocidal nutjobs would show us the way, and commit the suicide that they are so fond of assisting; if only they would correct their mother’s mistake and abort themselves.

And if only they would shut up until they do.


91 posted on 08/24/2011 7:40:49 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: dfwgator

It's happening already.........

92 posted on 08/24/2011 7:51:18 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: wagglebee

I’m surprised that Stafford didn’t acknowledge AIDS as a super plague, but then he’s an admitted atheist and supporter of “homosexual marriage”.


93 posted on 08/24/2011 8:03:05 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MarkL
There are so many of these people out there, spouting off about how great it would be if there were far fewer people on the planet (some of them go on about how wonderful the earth would be if there were NO human beings on the planet.)

The problem is not too many people. The problem is there are too many unskilled illiterates who do not produce enough value to be able to feed themselves, and the Western middle class is running out of ability and willingness to subsidize the global underclass.

If the people of Somalia were able to crank out good software, hardware chips, textiles, or whatever, then they would have no problems with feeding themselves.

The global crisis that we are starting to see, is that there are an increasing number of people who do not know how to produce anything that will pay for their food and shelter.

94 posted on 08/24/2011 8:19:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: SandRat

95 posted on 08/24/2011 8:23:08 AM PDT by Quaid
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To: PapaBear3625
Perhaps Daily Kos contributor Jon Stafford needs to join the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement (VHEM) [http://vhemt.org/]. These crazies really exist and he'd fit right in among the loons.

Perhaps Mr. Stafford would care to volunteer for some weaponized bio-weapon experiment. He'd be on the cutting edge. Oh, wait . . . he wants to stay around, but he wants to kill millions of other surplus human breeders. That sounds pretty hypocritical to me. He ought to have the courage of his convictions and lead by example — a guinea pig for bio-weapon research.

96 posted on 08/25/2011 12:25:43 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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