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Jobless claims in U.S. rise to 417,000
Marketwatch ^ | 8.25.11 | Jeffry Bartash

Posted on 08/25/2011 6:06:43 AM PDT by Free Vulcan

New applications for U.S. unemployment compensation rose 5,000 to 417,000 , the Labor Department said Thursday. Initial claims from two weeks ago were revised up to 412,000 from an original reading of 408,000...

The average of new claims over the past four weeks, meanwhile, increased by 4,000 to 407,500...In addition, the Labor Department said the number of Americans who continue to receive state unemployment checks fell by 80,000 to 3.64 million in the week ended Aug 13. Continuing claims are reported with a one-week lag.

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To: Free Vulcan

There likely is not a nefarious reason for the upward revisions — although I can’t rule that out.

The real reason for the upward revisions is more ominous for the overall economy.

Economists — vetted as being relatively non-partisan — have told me that a pattern of upward OR downward revisions suggests a direction of momentum.

For example, during the mid years of the GWB administration, the typical pattern was to have upward revisions in the payroll numbers, and downward revisions in the jobless claims.

Why? the economy and the job markets were tending to grow during those — seem like so long ago — years of 2003 through 2007.

So the direction of the revisions suggested — although were no guarantee — a direction of the future economy.

Similarly, the pattern of upward revisions for the jobless claims is a hint that the direction for employment is toward EROSION — NOT healing.

It also may be that this means the jobless claims never got below 400K for a lengthening streak of weeks and months.

WSJ said the weekly numbers have been below 400K only once since April. But it wasn’t clear if that included the final figures after the usual upward revisions.


21 posted on 08/25/2011 7:04:49 AM PDT by Calif Conservative (rwr and gwb backer)
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To: Free Vulcan
Countdown to Hussein blaming:
Bush,
Irene,
Japan,
Tea Partiers:

22 posted on 08/25/2011 7:05:59 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Free Vulcan

23 posted on 08/25/2011 7:23:58 AM PDT by blam
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To: Free Vulcan

24 posted on 08/25/2011 8:00:44 AM PDT by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: smith288

LOL, Perry the Platypus will save us!


25 posted on 08/25/2011 8:02:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Free Vulcan

Bammy always accused Republicans of driving the economy into the ditch but Americans are now realizing that there’s nobody at the wheel.


26 posted on 08/25/2011 8:15:39 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Free Vulcan

the obama economy.


27 posted on 08/25/2011 8:48:34 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Free Vulcan

28 posted on 08/25/2011 8:52:01 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: Free Vulcan

And obama is doing what? Partying and golfing, golfing, golfing, golfing-— nat a care in the world. He does not need a job, he is set for life.


29 posted on 08/25/2011 9:54:29 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Red Badger

You can apply, but getting it is another thing.


30 posted on 08/25/2011 9:56:57 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Free Vulcan
Glug, glug, glug. America continues to go down the drain with the Ayatollah Obama in charge.
31 posted on 08/25/2011 10:28:52 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Was that the week they crowed about being under 400k? Then they revised up to 408K. And now its 412k


32 posted on 08/25/2011 11:23:33 AM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Roccus

Earthquake’s Fault!!


33 posted on 08/25/2011 11:26:30 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Free Vulcan

Summer of Recovery II


34 posted on 08/25/2011 11:50:17 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Bean Counter

I’m not sure that a 1% revision is a conspiracy.

However, the revision is always up. Umm, why is that?


35 posted on 08/25/2011 12:19:20 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That’s OK. Most economist (who the MSM consult) say that jobless claims under 700,000 signify a stable job market. (sarcasm, in case it wasn’t obvious).


36 posted on 08/25/2011 12:24:42 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Red Badger

Just read this:

U.S. workers are usually denied jobless benefits when they go on strike. After all, they walked off the job.

Except in New York. The state is the only one in the U.S. that in some cases allows striking workers to receive unemployment benefits, according to a union official.

Apparently thousands of workers at Verizon Communications are trying to take advantage of the rare law. During a two-week strike that ended Tuesday, about 21,000 union members filed applications for unemployment compensation, according to the U.S. Labor Department.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-verizon-strikers-filed-for-jobless-benefits-2011-08-25?dist=countdown


37 posted on 08/25/2011 12:41:00 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Free Vulcan

Revised, unexpected, why does anyone put any stock in these numbers? How many times do they have to play this song and dance before everyone realizes it’s all BS?


38 posted on 08/25/2011 12:44:13 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Free Vulcan
Green shoots smiling at me.

Nothing but green shoots do I see.

39 posted on 08/25/2011 12:56:26 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: xzins

402 revised + 399 revised +412 revised + 417/4=407500, so article is right but 3 of the weeks have been revised so far. With respect to another comment, earthquake didn’t cause first time claims but it will impact next week’s number. Who was dumb enough to go to unemployment office while or after earth quake not to mention that government employees were long gone to take first time claims


40 posted on 08/25/2011 1:31:09 PM PDT by kushnejz
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