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GOP says Joe the Plumber may challenge Kaptur in '12
Toledo Blade ^ | 8/24/2011 | TONY COOK

Posted on 08/25/2011 10:31:09 AM PDT by markomalley

Joe Wurzelbacher, better known as Joe the Plumber, is considering a run against U.S. Rep. Marcy Kaptur in 2012, according to Republican Party sources.

Jon Stainbrook, chairman of the Lucas County Republican Party, said there is "high-level interest in the national Republican Party" in a potential Wurzelbacher candidacy.

"We are encouraging Joe to run," Mr. Stainbrook said. "He hasn't made any official decision yet."

Chris Maloney, spokesman for the Ohio Republican Party, said a candidate like Mr. Wurzelbacher would have strong fund-raising capabilities thanks to national recognition he received during the 2008 presidential campaign, but added such star power would have to be weighed against the advantages of experience that someone like a state legislator could bring to the race.

Mr. Wurzelbacher wouldn't confirm or deny a congressional run. "I think it's a very interesting idea," he said Tuesday. "That's as much as I can say."

One GOP source put the chances of Mr. Wurzelbacher running against Miss Kaptur at "90 percent."

Miss Kaptur (D., Toledo) has represented Ohio's 9th congressional district since 1983. She won with 59 percent of the vote in 2010 and her district voted heavily in favor of President Obama in 2008, but congressional redistricting later this year could shake up the district's political demographics.

(Excerpt) Read more at toledoblade.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: joetheplumber; kaptur; kaptur2012; mydrainisclogged; oh2012; plumber; teaparty

1 posted on 08/25/2011 10:31:10 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Would love to see that. It would be interesting to see what the district looks like after redistricting. Kaptur is strongest in the city of Toledo, and that city has been steadily losing population.


2 posted on 08/25/2011 10:42:02 AM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: markomalley

Stainbrook is a joke... He’s bent on destroying the Lucas county (Ohio) GOP from within at the behest of the publisher (John Robinson Block) of the local left wing rag, The Toledo Blade. That said, you might as well run a monkey as Joe the plumber...Kaptur will not lose. Unions still weild the power in the greater Toledo area...


3 posted on 08/25/2011 10:43:58 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: markomalley

Go JOE!

#1 Joe has been vetted (procto exam by the media)!
#2 Is a plumber and can identify sewage.
#3 Understands how the economy and small businesses work.
#4 Knows how to turn off a spigot.
#5 Not afraid to ask questions.
#6 Not afraid to get his hands dirty.


4 posted on 08/25/2011 10:45:40 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: markomalley

This is a good thing, we need more plain spoken ordinary people in Washington DC and in every state capital and city council across this country.


5 posted on 08/25/2011 10:49:13 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: sodpoodle
#3 Understands how the economy and small businesses work.

Yet didn't know who he was going to vote for 3 weeks before the 2008 election...
6 posted on 08/25/2011 10:58:51 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: markomalley

I hope he runs. There is nothing to lose and he’ll attract a lot of money from common folk even if the big ‘too cool for school’ guys in the party don’t support him. As for those who says he doesn’t have a chance I’d say at least his populist message will be there. I don’t understand why some don’t realize that win or lose having an active candidate campaigning on conservative values is a positive no matter what the district. Look at Wisconsin. If the GOP had gone soft that state would be solid blue. California is a good example of what happens when you don’t fight and allow your message to get lost and indistinct. We may lose many times but inch by inch we can win our country back. Don’t write off your fellow citizens.


7 posted on 08/25/2011 11:04:16 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: markomalley; kristinn; dcbryan; Tempest; swatbuznik; Kaslin

Hello Joe! Glad to see a worker take on a Debt-o-crat!

NEVER compromise on your principles as that is the only defense we have against any politician ( read: politicians in “both” political parties ).

Remember, a politician is anyone whose word cannot be trusted : “ Read my lips, no new taxes. “ Yep, when those words were betrayed we got 8 loooooooong years of Zipper-Boy.

Then comes RINO McCain - - - .


8 posted on 08/25/2011 11:05:00 AM PDT by Graewoulf (obamatrauma"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Son House

That’s refreshing - to admit indecision. Probably why he was asking questions - to help make up his mind. Not everyone is a FReeper;)


9 posted on 08/25/2011 11:26:53 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

I think you are right that if he has any shot it will be as a result of redistricting. Kaptur has been hard core, lock-step with the unions for a couple of decades. She is likely to carry anything that is not a barbell-shaped district incorporating the wealthier northern suburbs of Columbus.


10 posted on 08/25/2011 12:14:55 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sodpoodle

I’ve seen no admission, although if there was one I’d share in the refreshment of enlightenment.


11 posted on 08/25/2011 12:14:55 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House

Read your own post:

You are the one who claimed Joe the Plumber did not know who he was going to vote for - three weeks prior to the election.

Was I wrong to trust you?


12 posted on 08/25/2011 12:45:46 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle

No go back to the day he went out to see Obama, he said he didn’t know who he was voting for. The point is, he should have known the differences long before then, and to herald him as some great conservative is akin to asking for another Scott Brown RINO


13 posted on 08/25/2011 1:19:01 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Son House

I have no idea when Joe the Plumber went to see Obama. He was just an inquisitive regular guy who took an opportunity to ask a very pointed question....and a good one.

He may very well have been coy when asked who he was voting for, and to avoid more questions for which he was not prepared - gave the vague response of being ‘undecided’.

He was an unknown plumber FGS!


14 posted on 08/25/2011 1:28:22 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: GraceG

You are absolutely right. Way to go JOE. Kaptur has been in the Congress too long.


15 posted on 08/25/2011 1:52:15 PM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: markomalley

16 posted on 08/25/2011 2:18:59 PM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: sodpoodle

It’s funny just how deluded the left is. On some other boards they try to take Joe the Plumber apart because he’s “not a real plumber”. And they claim that he was a “plant” to get Obama. Yeah, I’m sure that Joe moved into that neighborhood 15 years ago in the off chance that a presidential candidate might stroll by and he could ask a question. And how DARE he ask a “tough” question of Obama. Obviously racist. Every good person knows that you simply don’t ask liberal politicians about anything substantive.


17 posted on 08/25/2011 2:32:56 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: boop

Even more preposterous are FReepers who label any candidate as a RINO who deviates ever so slightly from their own stringent and unattainable requirements.

We should allow for a few imperfections in candidates who are courageous enough to run as Republicans and volunteer to absorb the slings and arrows of outrageous, leftist journ0lists. That’s enough vindication right there.


18 posted on 08/25/2011 3:05:17 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: markomalley

Toledo? Good luck. He’ll need it. It’s like a giant Ypsilanti.


19 posted on 08/26/2011 9:34:52 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I am not lead by any politician. I am my own leader.)
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To: sodpoodle

“...#2 Is a plumber and can identify sewage....”

I’d say he pretty much correctly identified sewage on National TV the day he spoke with Hussein Odouchebag...


20 posted on 08/26/2011 9:47:50 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

I really hope that the OH GOP doesn’t try to draw a district to defeat Kaptur—before you say anything, let me explain why. Toledo is heavily Dem, as is most of Lorain County further east (with the most heavily Dem lakeside areas in Sutton’s OH-13); in between is politically marginal territory. If GOP redistricters try to draw a winnable CD that includes Toledo, Kaptur would still be favored for reelection, and it would probably result in a Democrat also being elected from a Lorain-centric district (either Sutton or someone else). The most obvious move for Republicans in OH is to split up the two Dem strongholds in Sutton’s OH-13, with Lorain being given to Kaptur and the west side of Akron being given to Democrat Tim Ryan of Youngstown (who already represents eastern Akron), thus getting rid of Sutton. That’s actually easier to do than getting rid of Kucinich by combining his CD with Fudge’s black-majority Cleveland district (Kucinich represents too many Dem-leaning suburbs that wouldn’t fit in Fudge’s CD).

So I think that we should make Kaptur’s CD *more* Democrat, even if it would mean that Joe the Plumber won’t be able to beat her. Sorry, Joe, but the most important thing is to reduce the total number of Democrats elected to Congress from OH, and trying to defeat Kaptur would get in the way of that.


21 posted on 08/26/2011 10:16:19 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Reporting in from Ohio:

Fudge’s district will remain the same but extend down to inner city Akron. Think barbell shaped Voting Rights Act district.

Kucinich/Sutton/Kaptor three districts(west side of Cleveland to Toledo) become two districts


22 posted on 08/26/2011 10:20:35 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (From the Halls of Martha's Vineyard to the shores of Tripoli)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

My understanding is that Ohio will lose two congressional seats and the two that are rumored to be eliminated are Kucinich’s district in Cuyahoga County and one GOP district downstate to be collapsed-—I heard that unfortunately Congressman Jordan’s district is on the chopping block. I was hoping that in case that were to happen, Jordan would consider running against Sherrod Brown the incumbent US Senator who is up for re-election next year.


23 posted on 08/26/2011 10:22:18 AM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Ohio GOP has 13 incumbents to protect. Which may be one more than they actually can protect. Drawing Kaptur’s district into a competitive one is near last on their list of priorities.


24 posted on 08/26/2011 10:23:38 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (From the Halls of Martha's Vineyard to the shores of Tripoli)
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To: markomalley
Jon Stainbrook, chairman of the Lucas County Republican Party, said there is "high-level interest in the national Republican Party" in a potential Wurzelbacher candidacy.

If Joe Wurzelbacher is the best that the Lucas County Republicans have to offer then God help them.

25 posted on 08/26/2011 10:23:54 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: SoJoCo

Why not Joe the Plumber? No one else in 30 years has come close to unseating Kaptur. At least he will attract a lot of attention and interest into the race. I say he should go for it.


26 posted on 08/26/2011 11:12:55 AM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: NeoCaveman

I am so glad to hear that—I was afraid that they’d be slicing Cuyahoga County too thin and that a Democrat might get elected in the Cleveland suburbs. Akron is the only source of black voters for Fudge’s CD, but from what I had read earlier it seemed as if OH Republicans were insisting on giving Fudge all of Cleveland (which would mean that the CD would likely be just under 50% black and could lead to a judge throwing out the map and redrawing it himself). Kucinich would still have a heavily Dem CD in white partes of Cleveland and its Dem suburbs, and should be extended east through a narrow lakeside strip (which wouldn’t cost Fudge too many black voters) to take in Dem parts of NW Lake County.

The biggest problem with extending Fudge’s CD south through Twinsburg to inner-city Akron is what to do with LaTourette’s OH-14, which is stuck in a corner and could be forced to take on Dem precincts in Trumbull County if Ryan’s Youngstown-Warren CD still connected to Akron through Portage County. I was playing around with maps a couple of months ago, and found that the best way around the problem would be for LaTourette’s CD to scoot south from eastern Cuyahoga and Geauga through northern Portage and a land bridge in eastern Summit down to northern Stark County; Ryan’s CD would then connect to Akron through Alliance, Canton and Massillon. It would be ugly as hell, but effective.

Another way to get around this problem would be not to give Ryan any part of Akron at all, and have his district snake south along the PA border to take in Poland, East Palestine, East Liverpool, Toronto (boy, there sure are a lot of foreign-sounding city names in eastern OH!), Steubenville, Martin’s Ferry, St, Clairsville and Bellaire—unfortunately, it might take in more Republicans than I would like. That would also leave all of Canton, Massillon and Alliance in a GOP district, and the cities now vote Dem enough that it would be hard to draw safe Republicans all around. White parts of Akron would then need to be placed in Kucinich’s CD so as to avoid them ruining otherwise GOP districts, which means that not one but two narrow tentacles (Fudge’s from Glen Willow and Kucinich’s from Walton Hills?) would have to stretch from Cuyahoga to Summit County.

As for which GOP district in the rest of OH to eliminate (there are no current Dem CDs outside of NE OH and Toledo), that will be tough. The marginal OH-06 (Johnson) would make most sense if Ryan’s CD goes down to Belmont County, and maybe it can be combined with Schmidt’s OH-02 (which will likely need to give up her Hamilton County precincts to shore up Chabot in OH-01). That would still make it difficult to draw a map around Columbus with nothing but GOP CDs, since the two Columbus CDs (held by Tiberi and Stivers) are extremely marginal and the third GOP CD that dips into Columbus (held by Austria) can’t take in too many more Dems. Maybe give Jordan part of Columbus could solve the problem; if Jordan was running for the Senate (which he isn’t, and we already have a fine candidate in Josh Mandel), it would be a no-brainer to break up his heavily GOP CD and split up his counties among Tiberi, Stivers, Austria, Dayton’s Turner and Bowling Green’s Latta.

Frankly, I think that it would be nearly impossible for Republicans to hold every CD south and west of the imaginary line from Toledo to Youngstown for the next decade, and Republicans should consider drawing an über-Democrat, black-majority district that goes from Cincinnati to Dayton to Columbus, which would make every surrounding CD comfortably Republican. That would likely resuly in Turner’s CD being eliminated and Schmidt and Johnson being placed in the same CD, but it would pretty much guarantee an 11-5 GOP congressional delegation for the next decade (which is not bad at all for a state that leans only slightly Republican). I know that OH’s current delegation is 13-5 Republican, but our hold in 7 of those 13 CDs is rather tenuous and trying to draw a map with 12 GOP CDs out of 16 could result in the *Dems* getting an 11-5 majority in the delegation.


27 posted on 08/26/2011 11:59:06 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

A little birdie (actually a damn big one) told me that Austria and Schmidt might be in trouble (two go in, one comes out), that made no sense to me until I read your comment. Hmmm.

As for LaTourette, give him all of Portage county, so he can go from winning with 70% to winning with 65%


28 posted on 08/26/2011 12:06:17 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (From the Halls of Martha's Vineyard to the shores of Tripoli)
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To: NeoCaveman

Portage County has too many heavily Dem parts (particularly the city of Kent, which in 2004 had 11,300 voters and gave Kerry 70%, and Ravenna city and township) to add the whole county to a marginally GOP CD without any repercussions. The problem with LaTourette isn’t his winning percentage, but the fact that his CD only gave Bush like 52% in 2004 and voted for Obama in 2008; it’s voters are by no means strongly Republican, and if the Dems run a strong candidate, LaTourette could be gone (and if LaTourette retires, the Dems could easily pick up the CD). Same thing for Tiberi in Columbus/Delaware County, by the way.

What I would love is for black leaders in Cincinnati and Columbus demand that a second black-majority CD be created, and threaten to sue if the legislature doesn’t do that, so that Republicans can say “gee, our hands are tied, we just have to stick every heavily Dem area in SW and Central OH into a single district.” BTW, I forgot to mention that such black-majority CD would also take in the most heavily Dem precincts in Clark County (which is en route from Dayton to Columbus).


29 posted on 08/26/2011 12:24:50 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: markomalley

Go Joe!


30 posted on 08/26/2011 2:06:36 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

And he won’t come close either. He’s the GOP equivalent of Levi Johnston saying he was considering running for mayor of Wasilla.


31 posted on 08/26/2011 2:51:09 PM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: markomalley

Joe the Plumber had FAR MORE experience running a business, than Obama had before he obtained the job of running the largest business in the world.


32 posted on 08/27/2011 10:16:32 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: markomalley

” - - - Joe Wurzelbacher, better known as Joe the Plumber, is considering a run against U.S. Rep. Marcy Kaptur in 2012, according to Republican Party sources. - - - - “

Well, how about an update on Joe?

Is Joe going to run or not?


33 posted on 10/01/2011 3:58:55 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: sodpoodle

I agree...


34 posted on 10/10/2011 10:19:07 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Graewoulf
Here's your answer...

Joe the Plumber files as a Congressional candidate-Drudge headline

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2790636/posts

35 posted on 10/10/2011 10:23:20 AM PDT by hoagy62 (The United States of America. Great idea...while it lasted.)
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To: stevie_d_64

(August thread! That was a blast from the past;) LOL!

Here’s an update
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2790636/posts

Funny thing - that same anti-Joe the Plumber is posting nasty stuff again.


36 posted on 10/10/2011 11:01:03 AM PDT by sodpoodle (God is ignoring me - because He is watching you.)
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