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Private planes, private no more
Chicago Tribune ^ | 8-24-2011 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 08/25/2011 1:04:07 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules

"Both general aviation and commercial aircraft use the public airspace and air traffic control facilities, and the public has a right to information about their activities." Oh, please. We all use public streets and sidewalks, which doesn't mean the police have a right to monitor our movements and let the world know where we go.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aircraft; airplanes; airtraffic; aviation; flying; generalaviation
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Their coming for the planes and I did nothing, they are coming for you next.
1 posted on 08/25/2011 1:04:17 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Bump


2 posted on 08/25/2011 1:05:27 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Bump


3 posted on 08/25/2011 1:06:34 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Flight plans???

It seems the only pilots who might not file flight plans would be drug smugglers.

That can’t be right/s


4 posted on 08/25/2011 1:09:37 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Can you please just put your comments in the comment section instead of the actual article?


5 posted on 08/25/2011 1:11:06 PM PDT by Palter (Celebrate diversity .22, .223, .25, 9mm, .32 .357, 10mm, .44, .45, .500)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

planes...
trucking...
cars...
you...

They want to know what we are doing every second of the day.

Ever wonder why they are so damned determined to let Mexican trucks into the nation? It’s so they can then order all trucking to submit to instantaneous tracking.

Why let people from terrorist nations in here? Because it helps with the claim that we have to look at women’s privates in airports.

It’s a rigged game. We lose.


6 posted on 08/25/2011 1:11:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain 5 yrs Left/1 yr right "BAD!" - Republicans 3 yrs Right 1 year Left to elect RINOs. "Good?")
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To: US_MilitaryRules

The rest of the article if you don’t want to go to the leftist rag. I don’t know if it can be posted or not so here it is.

“Anyone who drives much in states with tollways has learned to love those transponders that let you whiz through without stopping to hand over your cash. It doesn’t bother most of us that the government could use the signals to track our travels. But how about if the government posted that information online for anyone with an Internet connection?

If that gives you the creeps, it should. A key element of privacy is keeping control of such personal information. But the federal government is showing a flagrant disregard for that trivial concern.

The Department of Transportation, which used to allow anyone with a private plane to choose not to have their flight plans made available for public consumption, has decided to eliminate that option. So if you want to snoop into someone else’s travel itinerary, you can do it.

To have their information kept out of public view, airplane owners have to provide “written certification of a valid security threat.” Otherwise, they’re out of luck. But why shouldn’t people be allowed privacy even when it’s not essential for their safety?

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has no good excuse for the change. “Both general aviation and commercial aircraft use the public airspace and air traffic control facilities, and the public has a right to information about their activities.” Oh, please. We all use public streets and sidewalks, which doesn’t mean the police have a right to monitor our movements and let the world know where we go.

General aviation groups aren’t happy, and who can blame them? “There can be no legitimate reason for a government agency to facilitate the monitoring of wholly private activity by anyone with an internet connection,” said Ed Bolen, head of the National Business Aviation Association.

But under LaHood’s policy, Big Brother will be watching. And so will anyone else who wants to.


7 posted on 08/25/2011 1:14:35 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Flight safety needs regulation of flight plans for obvious reasons. However, that being said, there is no legitimate reason at all for this information to be made public.

Which means that we should all expect an *illegitimate* reason, as of yet unspecified. That is, *who* would want this information for nefarious reasons? Think the usual suspects, such as political dirty tricks, labor unions, so that the MSM can follow and harass, or the good old fashioned reason that somebody can make money out of the deal that they couldn’t without government provided private information.


8 posted on 08/25/2011 1:16:03 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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"Oh, please. We all use public streets and sidewalks, which doesn't mean the police have a right to monitor our movements and let the world know where we go."

Oh, please! Don't give them any ideas! (Although I'm sure they're already hard at work developing plans for just such a thing!)

CA....

9 posted on 08/25/2011 1:16:16 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: Palter

That is from the article. Go read it.


10 posted on 08/25/2011 1:16:16 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Obama wants insight into everything you do, but we cannot have insight into his college grades.


11 posted on 08/25/2011 1:16:24 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Fine. Then don’t edit the stupid article. Start it from the dam beginning.


12 posted on 08/25/2011 1:17:53 PM PDT by Palter (Celebrate diversity .22, .223, .25, 9mm, .32 .357, 10mm, .44, .45, .500)
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To: US_MilitaryRules
The Department of Transportation, which used to allow anyone with a private plane to choose not to have their flight plans made available for public consumption, has decided to eliminate that option. So if you want to snoop into someone else's travel itinerary, you can do it

By making this information public, it opens the information to all of the other branches of Big Brother. This is another Fascist end-around play on the privacy act laws. The more we get to know the mystery man Obama the more his "Change" grows big teeth.

13 posted on 08/25/2011 1:18:43 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

It’s ok. The news papers use the public roads for delivery. We have the right to look inside their files and uncover everything they do.

Their right to say what they want will not be abriged, but all they do will be public knowledge


14 posted on 08/25/2011 1:21:16 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: sodpoodle
It seems the only pilots who might not file flight plans would be drug smugglers.

Which in this administration is likely to be one and the same.

15 posted on 08/25/2011 1:21:29 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Just as long as they stop taxing the average traveling people and giving it to hobby airports to support private plane owners. Re- Distribution from the bottom up is as wrong as welfare.
16 posted on 08/25/2011 1:23:26 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

I dunno... I own a BeechF33A Bonanza with a partner and I enjoy tracking his flights in our plane and vice versa. Flightaware.com is great!


17 posted on 08/25/2011 1:25:47 PM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Palter

Where did he insert his own comments in to the article?


18 posted on 08/25/2011 1:26:41 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: sodpoodle

Wrong. No flight plan is required in the US for almost all VFR flights.


19 posted on 08/25/2011 1:27:25 PM PDT by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Palter

It looks like SOMEONE has a little trouble qadmitting when they are wrong.

There is no rule that excerpts must start from the first sentence of a piece. Many people who post articles include excerpts from the ‘meat’ of an article or editorial.

Are you going to curse at ALL of them?


20 posted on 08/25/2011 1:29:27 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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