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Unions splitting from Democrats in 2012, Trumka says
Hot Air ^ | 8/25/2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 08/25/2011 2:07:07 PM PDT by Uncledave

Unions splitting from Democrats in 2012, Trumka says

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posted at 4:05 pm on August 25, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
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The media likes to push the notion that the Republican Party will split in two because of the Tea Party, but they may have missed a real split on the other side of the aisle. AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka announced the creation of a union super-PAC that will “build our own structure” rather than “build structures for others.” And by “others,” Trumka means the Democratic Party:

The growing rift between labor and their Democratic allies was on full display Thursday, as AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka told reporters that labor groups are planning to scale back their involvement with the Democratic Party in advance of the 2012 elections.

Going forward, Trumka said, the labor movement will build up its own political structures and organizations rather than contribute to and depend on the Democratic Party’s political operation. …

Labor has traditionally been a major contributor to Democratic candidates and causes around the country. Trumka said that their outside effort will help keep union-backed candidates more accountable for promises made on the campaign trail.

“Let’s assume we spent $100 in the last election,” he said, explaining the union’s position.

“The day after Election Day, we were no stronger than we were the day before,” said Trumka. “If we had spent that [$100] on creating a structure for working people that would be there year round, then we are stronger.”

That’s not just an expression of disapproval with the Democratic Party. It’s a public vote of no confidence. Unions spent heavily in the 2010 midterm elections; they accounted for three of the top five high-spending outside groups in that cycle. They also spent tens of millions of dollars in Wisconsin this year in an attempt to wrest control of the state Senate away from Republicans, and failed to achieve their objective. Trumka’s comments make it clear that he doesn’t see a great prospect of electoral success in 2012, either.

Trumka also directly criticized Obama for his inaction on job creation:

“He’s going to give a speech in a couple of weeks on job creation,” Trumka told reporters. “If he’s talking about another percent or two break from a tax here and doing something with patent control, and doing three years down the road something with infrastructure bank, that’s not going to get the job done.”

This puts the AFL-CIO into a position where the creation of a third party is not just a theoretical possibility, but perhaps a likely outcome. The Tea Party doesn’t have deep pockets for organization, but the unions have a mostly-mandated grip on the pockets of their members, thanks to closed-shop rules in many areas of the country. They can generate hundreds of millions of dollars for elections and candidate recruitment, especially in areas of high union concentration. Unions might not be strong enough to run their own presidential candidate, but they could win House seats and perhaps a few Senate seats as well, or more likely just provide a competitive third choice for voters. In fact, there’s really no other way to read Trumka’s statement but as a threat to compete with the Democratic Party on their own terms.

And that’s where the Democratic Party will suffer most. If unions start running well-funded alternative candidates, the vote will split and allow Republicans to make gains in Congress and in state legislatures. Either Democrats will have to start endorsing union candidates or start falling hopelessly behind the GOP in power and influence.

Even if this turns into just a one-cycle phenomenon, it couldn’t come at a worse time for Obama. In order to win a general election, Obama needs to run to his right — and in order to keep the union funding he desperately needs, he will have to move to his left. Either way, Obama loses, as does his party.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aflcio; thirdparty; trumka; unions
Hard to imagine them forming another party or not voting for the dem in the end, but here you go...
1 posted on 08/25/2011 2:07:10 PM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave

Yeah right!


2 posted on 08/25/2011 2:08:54 PM PDT by mardi59
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To: Uncledave

Trumka is a communist. Don’t trust what he says.


3 posted on 08/25/2011 2:10:17 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint /Palin, DeMint/Bachmann, DeMint/Cain, DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: Uncledave

Trumka...

Isn’t that moron for Idiot-stick?

Who WILL unions be voting for then? LMAO

LIAR!

There’s only one game in town for these goons, and they damn well know it.


4 posted on 08/25/2011 2:10:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain 5 yrs Left/1 yr right "BAD!" - Republicans 3 yrs Right 1 year Left to elect RINOs. "Good?")
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To: Uncledave

This is such a phony story, what a media the Dems have!


5 posted on 08/25/2011 2:11:21 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Uncledave
This puts the AFL-CIO into a position where the creation of a third party is not just a theoretical possibility, but perhaps a likely outcome.

I'm not quite sure it would be legal but let them blow more money on it.
6 posted on 08/25/2011 2:12:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

The CPUSA has stated that there is no need for them to run a presidential candidate - the democrats have that covered.

Yes, I’m series - they officially stated that.


7 posted on 08/25/2011 2:12:46 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Uncledave

Replies the scorpion: “Its my nature...”


8 posted on 08/25/2011 2:13:35 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: DoughtyOne

They are seeing their power being stripped away. In states where the unions iron grip is being broken, the economy is growing.

A few more states and who knows.

Everywhere mandated contributions for elections are overturned, contributions drop 80/90 pct.


9 posted on 08/25/2011 2:15:49 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Uncledave

They’re finally going to go to their true home, The Communist Party.


10 posted on 08/25/2011 2:17:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Uncledave

Where are they going when they leave the democrats?

To the Communist Party USA (CPUSA)?

Or isn’t that far enough to the left for them either?


11 posted on 08/25/2011 2:20:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I may be wrong, but it’s my take the their power is being stripped in Republican controlled states. Subsequent to that, we (and they) are seeing the economies favorably impacted. You are right. A few more states and who knows?

Yes, everywhere mandated contributions for elections are struck down, said contributions drop by 80 to 90%.

In light of this Trumpka wants us to believe that with-holding support for the Democrats, the only viable alternative to the Republicans, makes sense to him?

It’s my premise that you and I both know different.


12 posted on 08/25/2011 2:23:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain 5 yrs Left/1 yr right "BAD!" - Republicans 3 yrs Right 1 year Left to elect RINOs. "Good?")
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To: Uncledave
Yep, they are not going to vote NOBAMA 2012. That's why them and the Whiteyhut fought so hard to keep the Visitors List secret showing just how often trumkamonkey came by.

By the way, where does the unions find such Neanderthal looking thugs for big shots? They must be watching too many old gangster movies.

13 posted on 08/25/2011 2:30:33 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Uncledave

Trumka will have some ‘splaining to do to his commissar.


14 posted on 08/25/2011 2:30:40 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (I'll follow an eloquent Allen West out of hell.)
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To: DoughtyOne

this is a fake move.

They are just going to funnel money into their PAC and still support democrats. This is to fake “independence.”

This is all about mandatory dues deductions.

it is the lifeblood of the unions.


15 posted on 08/25/2011 2:32:51 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: mardi59
Yeah right!

Exactly!!! Where else are they going to go?

16 posted on 08/25/2011 2:33:19 PM PDT by NRG1973
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
Trumka is more Tony Soprano then Karl Marx.
17 posted on 08/25/2011 2:38:36 PM PDT by Reily
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To: NRG1973
Yeah right! Exactly!!! Where else are they going to go?

no kidding...can you imagine millions of dollars of the lemming union workers money going to a realistic, honest, truly progressive party....I think not. They will continue to blindly follow their "leaders" right down the porcelain convenience. Their blind allegiance to the group that has taken them and the black community down the tubes boggles the mind....come to think of it, when you receive monies taken from groups by force....I guess you can build yourself an empire and enjoy life......right union/demo bosses?????

18 posted on 08/25/2011 2:43:37 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: Iron Munro

“Where are they going when they leave the democrats?
To the Communist Party USA (CPUSA)?
Or isn’t that far enough to the left for them either?”

North Korea!


19 posted on 08/25/2011 2:47:47 PM PDT by rex regnum insanit (falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus)
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To: Uncledave

Trumka is a lying SOS, says crosshairs.


20 posted on 08/25/2011 2:49:22 PM PDT by crosshairs (If Sharia Law becomes the law of the land, heads are gonna roll.)
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To: longtermmemmory

I did not key in on that, and I think you’re probably right on target there. Good call.


21 posted on 08/25/2011 2:50:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain 5 yrs Left/1 yr right "BAD!" - Republicans 3 yrs Right 1 year Left to elect RINOs. "Good?")
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To: longtermmemmory

Nailed!


22 posted on 08/25/2011 3:02:48 PM PDT by rocksblues (Obama, the biggest liar in the history of American politics!)
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To: Uncledave

I’ve either been looking out my window or have been outside all day today and I have not seen one pig fly by.


23 posted on 08/25/2011 3:25:44 PM PDT by Graneros ("It is no exaggeration to say that the undecided could go one way or another.")
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To: Uncledave

Rule One-democrats lie
Rule Two-democrats believe killing babies is a right
Rule Three-don’t ever forget rules one and two


24 posted on 08/25/2011 3:29:46 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 -The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Resisting Tyranny Since 1-20-2009)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Perhaps they’ll stop the facade and join directly with the Communist Party. The Dems are very left wing and have a large percentage of their members who are card carrying Socialists but I don’t think the Dems are quite ready yet to completely support the Communist Party. Perhaps the Unions are.


25 posted on 08/25/2011 3:35:25 PM PDT by Graneros ("It is no exaggeration to say that the undecided could go one way or another.")
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To: Uncledave

Unions splitting from Democrats.

Satan against Satan?


26 posted on 08/25/2011 3:35:58 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Uncledave

Do you happen to know what percentage of the vote these guys claim to control as opposed to the votes they actually control? If I were a union person, I would be suffering some severe disenchantment at this point.


27 posted on 08/25/2011 3:42:08 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: DoughtyOne

The word is that Trumka meets with the Zero on a daily basis.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this is just some kind of BS tactic to pull his employees(politicians) in line.


28 posted on 08/25/2011 3:50:52 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Uncledave
Unions splitting from Democrats in 2012, Trumka says

Awwwwwwww.... No Please say it's not true!

Please Don't!

Please Don't!

Please Don't!

Please Don't!

Please Don't!

Please Don't!


29 posted on 08/25/2011 3:53:39 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: MrB
The CPUSA has stated that there is no need for them to run a presidential candidate - the democrats have that covered.

Yes, I’m series - they officially stated that.

A link would be quite useful here.
Yes, I'm series, too!

30 posted on 08/25/2011 3:58:15 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: All; Uncledave
If unions follow through trying to start up a third-party it's an attempt to recreate a Perot-type populist revolt and take anti-Obama votes from the Republicans, giving Obama the edge he needs to win in 2012.

This is a scam.

31 posted on 08/25/2011 4:16:51 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama is unpatriotic by his own standard.)
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To: Uncledave

“He’s going to give a speech in a couple of weeks on job creation,” Trumka told reporters. “If he’s talking about another percent or two break from a tax here and doing something with patent control, and doing three years down the road something with infrastructure bank, that’s not going to get the job done.”

Obama can’t because it’s too expensive. And by too expensive, I mean it would require such a large diversion of people’s time towards giving other people work to do that is not needed everyone would be worse off than before.

The progressive mindset requires that they take the natural relationships between people and enforce a structure on them.


32 posted on 08/25/2011 4:25:40 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Publius6961

Here’s one link: http://marty4650-spincycle.blogspot.com/2011/07/communist-party-usa-endorses-barack.html

Basically, the CPUSA has not run a presidential candidate since 1984 and has endorsed the democrat candidate in every election saying that he’s “close enough”.


33 posted on 08/26/2011 9:22:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: longtermmemmory
This is all about mandatory dues deductions.

I'm inclined to agree. Simply electing Democrats isn't getting the job done. Electing Democrats who have to deliver on this issue or else, might. This isn't about fleeing to the Republican party, it's about power within the one they figure they already own.

34 posted on 08/26/2011 9:31:58 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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