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Pew Poll: Boys Rule, Girls Not So Much
Wall Street Journal ^ | 8/25/11 | Danny Yadron

Posted on 08/25/2011 4:39:26 PM PDT by CA Conservative

Not all conservative firebrands are created equal, according to a Pew Research Center poll released Thursday afternoon. The poll shows that 41% of GOP primary voters said there is no chance they would vote for former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, should she run for president. And two-thirds of all voters said Ms. Palin wouldn’t get their vote, the highest percentage of any declared or potential presidential candidate.

Another tea party favorite, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R., Minn.), performed slightly better – 31% of the Republican primary voters said they would never vote for Mrs. Bachmann while 56% of all voters said there is no chance they’d support her.

It’s a sharp contrast with Texas Gov. Rick Perry. Among the GOP voters, 77% said there is either a good chance or some chance they would vote for Mr. Perry, with only 17% saying no way. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney comes in a close second with Republicans — 75% said there’s at least some chance they’d support him and 21% said there is none.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bachmann; bachmann2012; palin; palin2012; perry; poll; rickperry; texas; womanpresident
Okay, this is a Pew poll, so take it for what it's worth. But it is interesting, nontheless.
1 posted on 08/25/2011 4:39:31 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: shield

For the ping list


2 posted on 08/25/2011 4:40:19 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative
41% of GOP primary voters said there is no chance they would vote for ... Palin ... two-thirds of all voters said Ms. Palin wouldn’t get their vote.

Ouch.

3 posted on 08/25/2011 4:48:49 PM PDT by newzjunkey (ineluctable indeed. /s)
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To: CA Conservative

The only really interesting polls are the ones in which actual voters actually vote and the results count.


4 posted on 08/25/2011 4:48:59 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There is only one remedy for ignorance and thoughtlessness, and that is literacy." R. Mitchell)
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To: CA Conservative

Why is it automatically assumed that the female candidates named are unpopular simply because they are female and the reverse for the male candidates? I like Bachmann as a candidate and have support he, but am not ready to chalk up her polling problems to her gender. As for Palin, I am not crazy about her as a candidate, but that opinion has nothing to do with her gender.


5 posted on 08/25/2011 4:49:50 PM PDT by rob777
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To: Tax-chick
The only really interesting polls are the ones in which actual voters actually vote and the results count.

Not surprisingly, it is usually the ones far behind in the polls that say that...

6 posted on 08/25/2011 4:51:51 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative
Drop from $1858 to $1754 is a plunge? I'm still up 450% (5.5x) so I'm not too worried about gold. The plunging value of the dollar is what is killing me.
7 posted on 08/25/2011 4:52:42 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Obama - the Half-Black Plague)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
Drop from $1858 to $1754 is a plunge? I'm still up 450% (5.5x) so I'm not too worried about gold. The plunging value of the dollar is what is killing me.

I don't think this comment was meant for me...

8 posted on 08/25/2011 4:54:27 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

I’m not a candidate for office, and therefore have only a philosophical interest.


9 posted on 08/25/2011 4:55:54 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There is only one remedy for ignorance and thoughtlessness, and that is literacy." R. Mitchell)
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To: Tax-chick
The only really interesting polls are the ones in which actual voters actually vote and the results count.

Granted the only poll that counts is still over a year away, but the polls calling the 2008 elections for Obama turned out to be very accurate. We can't just hope that the poll in 2012 turns out differently, we need to keep working at it.

10 posted on 08/25/2011 4:56:21 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: CA Conservative
Boys Rule, Girls Not So Much

Oh those sexist conservative bigots.

Republican primary voters have also latched onto (Perry's) claim that he helped create jobs in Texas.

Just a little reminder that while the editorial page of the WSJ may be mostly conservative, the rest of the paper is not.

11 posted on 08/25/2011 4:58:25 PM PDT by TChad
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To: newzjunkey
Palin's negatives are frightening evidence of the power of the Leftist MSM in forming opinion. They set out to trash, smear, and slander Palin from the moment she was picked by McCain, precisely because her record in Alaska was proof that she was a threat to the bipartisan elite who have a lock on the country.

This is also a testament to the stupidity of the Republican sheeple, as is their infatuation with a hack career establishment poseur like Perry and a country clubber like Romney.

12 posted on 08/25/2011 5:00:28 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I agree, but in the case of primaries that are still, in some cases, nine months away, I think too much emphasis on general polls is unhelpful. Most voters don’t even know who will be on their primary ballots, and a reasonable person can’t decide on his vote until he knows what the choices are.


13 posted on 08/25/2011 5:04:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("There is only one remedy for ignorance and thoughtlessness, and that is literacy." R. Mitchell)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; caww; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

14 posted on 08/25/2011 5:05:40 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: CA Conservative

It should be considered (and don’t shoot the messenger here) that many of the very evangelicals that you would think would be supportive of Bachmann and Palin might also have the firmest belief that women (any woman) should not hold the highest office in the land and would prefer to have a male president over a female one.

Personally, I don’t feel that way but the numbers in these polls may reflect a strong bias against the prospect of a woman president, regardless of her views. I could certainly get behind a strong-willed Margaret Thatcher type but I do know of women who would bristle at the notion.


15 posted on 08/25/2011 5:08:46 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: CA Conservative

Surely this goes a long way toward explaining why every Palin event is over subscribed. And all those men and women flocking to hear her could not possibly be voters.


16 posted on 08/25/2011 5:10:25 PM PDT by dools0007world (uestion)
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To: OrangeHoof; All

“It should be considered (and don’t shoot the messenger here) that many of the very evangelicals that you would think would be supportive of Bachmann and Palin might also have the firmest belief that women (any woman) should not hold the highest office in the land and would prefer to have a male president over a female one.”

That is possible amoung older conservative evangelicals. I’m in my late 50s and would “prefer” to chose a man over a woman. However, that is only true if both man and woman are equally conservative. So, as it is right now, I would gladly vote for either Bachmann or Palin over Romney..and even Perry. Both of these ladies are, in my opinion, bonafide moral/fiscal conservatives. I know Romney isn’t at all....and I have doubts about Perry.

I don’t understand the negative attitude about Palin...it has to be more than just the MSM attacking her. Although I am sure that is the major factor.


17 posted on 08/26/2011 9:23:10 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: CA Conservative

Rich: Are you people looking at the same candidates I am?


18 posted on 08/26/2011 9:30:34 AM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: CA Conservative

Well they say that now. But in November 2012 if the choices are Bachmann and Obama or Palin and Obama the republicans will all vote for the republican candidate and I believe that a lot of indendents will also. Obama is so bad only the blacks and hard core progressives will vote for him again. IMO.


19 posted on 08/26/2011 9:43:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: hellbender

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.


20 posted on 08/26/2011 10:05:36 AM PDT by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: rob777

I don’t think this is about gender nearly as much as it is about executive experience. Bachmann has little to none. Palin has some, but IMO, not enough, especially when you consider how small the population of Alaska is.


21 posted on 08/26/2011 10:21:10 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: dools0007world
Surely this goes a long way toward explaining why every Palin event is over subscribed. And all those men and women flocking to hear her could not possibly be voters..

Certainly not, they are either terrorists or traitors, depending on whether you're a progressive or a rino drone. 48hrs ago The Hair's supporters crowed over another poll that said 50% of the nation would vote Obama if Palin enters the race. Just as trustworthy as 50% of schoolchildren saying they'd rather eat sh*t if they don't like the menu.

22 posted on 08/26/2011 10:47:15 AM PDT by tarotsailor
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To: Sola Veritas

I had a coworker recently who was British (so not able to vote) but very conservative. You bring up Palin and she grimaces. You bring up Bachmann and she sneers. But you bring up Herman Cain, and she thinks he’s great and would vote for him in a minute.

Purely anecdotal but I’ve seen this type of reaction from conservative women more than once.


23 posted on 08/26/2011 2:31:58 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: OrangeHoof
I had a coworker recently who was British (so not able to vote) but very conservative. You bring up Palin and she grimaces. You bring up Bachmann and she sneers....

See also: "Redcoats".

Just saying...

24 posted on 08/27/2011 1:02:47 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: CA Conservative

.....the Poll is a fraud on it’s face..........SO WHO ARE THESE 41% GOP VOTERS GONNA VOTE FOR...........BARRACK OBAMA................PLEASE!!!

If Sarah gets the nomination, and she might, she will be the next President.............period!

F the pundits, Frank Luntz and all Democrats!


25 posted on 08/27/2011 7:17:00 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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