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Bangor woman records couple dumping water in food stamp scam
Bangor Daily News ^ | August 22, 2011 | Nok-Noi Ricker

Posted on 08/25/2011 4:48:09 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

BANGOR, Maine — A local woman saw a young couple opening water bottles and dumping out the contents in front of Shaw’s grocery store on Saturday and pulled out her iPhone and videoed the two brazenly committing the common food stamp scam.

She then went into the store at around 1:30 p.m. to report what she saw and police were called to investigate the fraud.

The Bangor couple, a 23-year-old man and a 17-year-old female who turned 18 on Sunday, told the investigating officer that they had purchased two cases of water with funding provided by the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly known as the Food Stamp Program.

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What a way to celebrate an 18th birthday.
1 posted on 08/25/2011 4:48:14 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

I musta missed something.

So, why were they dumping the water?

I don’t get it.


2 posted on 08/25/2011 4:49:53 PM PDT by Westbrook
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To: Westbrook

To return the empties and collect the deposit money.


3 posted on 08/25/2011 4:51:18 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

no more food stamps for them. I am sure they will find more hand outs as the Demmies have all sorts of rip offs for scammers like this, but wouldn’t it be wonderful if these kids actually got set on a new path by having to get a real job?


4 posted on 08/25/2011 4:52:29 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Westbrook
They profit by getting money on the bottle returns.

From the article: The bottled water cost around $6 and the duo got $2.40 back in cash from the redeemed bottles. U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the SNAP program, has taken a stand on water dumping — buying beverages with food stamps, dumping the liquid and returning the empties for cash — and has proposed a new rule that could disqualify recipients who engage in the practice.

5 posted on 08/25/2011 4:52:29 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Why were they dumping perfectly good bottled water? I could see if there were selling the bottles for a profit/the cash.

What am I missing here?


6 posted on 08/25/2011 4:52:41 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint /Palin, DeMint/Bachmann, DeMint/Cain, DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!!!)
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To: LearsFool

> To return the empties and collect the deposit money.

They did that for chump change?

Unreal.

What a couple of LOSERS.


7 posted on 08/25/2011 4:52:57 PM PDT by Westbrook
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

You see it perfectly, Alice.


8 posted on 08/25/2011 4:54:02 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I can see 2012 from my house!" Jim Thompson, 7-16-2011)
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To: LearsFool

Would it not be simpler and more profitable to ask a friend to do some of his shopping with your food stamps? For example, have him buy $6 worth of food on your stamps, and hand you $6.


9 posted on 08/25/2011 4:54:29 PM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: LearsFool
But they were recycling, right?

Saving the planet, right?

/s

10 posted on 08/25/2011 4:54:45 PM PDT by THX 1138 ("Harry, I have a gift.")
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To: Westbrook

They buy bottles of water ($6), dump the water out, and return the empties for cash ($2). That cash can then be used to buy non-food items You’re not supposed to be able to get cash from SNAP benefits.


11 posted on 08/25/2011 4:54:45 PM PDT by christx30
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To: Westbrook

They use welfare money from taxpayers to purchase a $6 case of
water, then dump the water so they can pocket $2.40 for returning
the empty bottles. The water is wasted.


12 posted on 08/25/2011 4:55:48 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: ConservativeStatement

Why on earth bottled water is covered by food stamps is beyond me. I merely turn on the tap and out it comes!

That’s a lot cheaper than the real “bottled water scam”, i.e. selling water in bottles. And if taste or purity is a concern, buy a Brita pitcher.


13 posted on 08/25/2011 4:56:12 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
It is an immediate profit. Return the bottle and get cash. Even if they sold water at a profit, they would have to include the bottle in the deal and that would nullify the returnable from their possession.
14 posted on 08/25/2011 4:56:48 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: Lady Lucky

It is very difficult to think clearly when you are on drugs.


15 posted on 08/25/2011 4:57:26 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: Lady Lucky
Would it not be simpler and more profitable to ask a friend to do some of his shopping with your food stamps? For example, have him buy $6 worth of food on your stamps, and hand you $6.

That was my thought, too. I guess when you're as rock bottom as these folks are on the economic ladder, you don't have friends doing much shopping with real money?
16 posted on 08/25/2011 4:58:46 PM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: ConservativeStatement

Ah, but then they were able to buy a quart of Schlitz. Instant party.


17 posted on 08/25/2011 5:00:30 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: ConservativeStatement

Ah, but then they were able to buy a quart of Schlitz. Instant party.


18 posted on 08/25/2011 5:01:37 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Lady Lucky
Would it not be simpler and more profitable to ask a friend to do some of his shopping with your food stamps? For example, have him buy $6 worth of food on your stamps, and hand you $6.

Somebody already thought of that.

:-)
19 posted on 08/25/2011 5:02:55 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
I could see if there were selling the bottles for a profit/the cash.

That would be dangerously close to work. Being on welfare means you shouldn't have to work.

20 posted on 08/25/2011 5:03:18 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Lady Lucky

Several months ago, I was going shopping at Giant Eagle. As I approached the door, a “minority” woman asked if I had a shopping list. She told me she would purchase the items on my list, if I would pay her 75% in cash. I said “No.” She then dropped her fee to 50%. I told her to drop dead. She screamed at me as I headed into the store.


21 posted on 08/25/2011 5:03:56 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Myrddin

This is how Uncle Tom Obama gets his.... “$1.00 in food stamps generates $1.86!”


22 posted on 08/25/2011 5:04:23 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: LearsFool

Home Shoplifting Network? Ouch!


23 posted on 08/25/2011 5:09:43 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
A different bunch of do-gooders set this up with a deposit/return system. They seek to do good by requiring a deposit on each bottle of sodapop (I guess they count plain water as sodapop there) so that the poor will be encouraged to collect empties to return to get back the deposit.

All these young people did was sacrifice their prime rib easily purchased with their foodstamp card in return for bottled water which they could turn into real cash.

Frankly, they'd been ahead of the game by buying a steak and then selling it to their neighbors for a discount.

The next busybody do-gooder is the ol'gal taking a picture of this going on imagining that she's discovered something.

Be better for her to start a campaign to eliminate the bottle deposit law. That way none of the poor will be tempted to violate the law. We are all ahead letting them practice being honest.

24 posted on 08/25/2011 5:10:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Westbrook

YOU paid for the water. THEY got the cash for the bottle refund.


25 posted on 08/25/2011 5:11:29 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Where's he getting these ideas? He's not smart enough to be that stupid all by himself.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules
It is very difficult to think clearly when you are on drugs.

This is why we should keep congress from passing new laws.

26 posted on 08/25/2011 5:11:34 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: ConservativeStatement

One would have to be awful desperate to not even want to use the water before getting the small fraction of its price as cash — literally nickles and dimes. Technically it’s a scam but it’s a pretty pitiful scam.


27 posted on 08/26/2011 9:10:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: ConservativeStatement

All this food stamp Snap horsedoo is setup to be scammed, has been from the start. Sort of another reparations methodology and they get by because they also let crackers scam.

There used to be a perfectly good way to feed the poor, it was called Commodities. There was a small local outlet run by USDA that would give those authorized enough essential foods for a week or so. Am betting the grocers wanted in on this action and waaalaaa Food Stamps through the stores that didn’t give a damn is the system was scammed so long as they got their “share”.


28 posted on 08/26/2011 9:16:37 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Westbrook
"I musta missed something. So, why were they dumping the water? I don’t get it."

Yeah, you missed clicking on the link to read the article that tells you why.

29 posted on 08/26/2011 9:18:22 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Westbrook

You missed it because like most honest Americans you don’t understand all the govt assistance scams that go on all the time.


30 posted on 08/26/2011 9:19:10 AM PDT by ully2
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To: Lady Lucky
Would it not be simpler and more profitable to ask a friend to do some of his shopping with your food stamps?

Their friends don't have any money either, and if they did, they wouldn't buy food with it.

31 posted on 08/26/2011 9:20:17 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Westbrook
So, why were they dumping the water?

24 bottles of nutritionally void water at 25¢ each purchased for $6 in food stamps. 24 empties returned for the libtard-imposed 10¢ return fee = $2.40 in cash they can spend on whatever. Just rational economic actors acting rationally.

Food stamps shouldn't be good for bottled water. Sheesh!

32 posted on 08/26/2011 9:20:42 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: dusttoyou

If these idiots were smart they’d buy a case of 24 for 4 bucks and turn around sell them for a buck a piece. Its damn hot out there...


33 posted on 08/26/2011 9:21:05 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: LearsFool
Why on earth bottled water is covered by food stamps is beyond me.

But of courxe my state allows food stamp recipients to get free bottled water, but still forces me to pay sales tax on bottled water when i buy it (nearly all food items are sales tax-exampt).

34 posted on 08/26/2011 9:22:14 AM PDT by denydenydeny (The moment you step into a world of facts, you step into a world of limits. --Chesterton)
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To: Westbrook

The bottles can be returned for cash


35 posted on 08/26/2011 9:22:22 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: goseminoles

Plus, people in maine may be willing to spend 5 bucks a bottle should the hurricane hit. Morons!!!


36 posted on 08/26/2011 9:22:30 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: THX 1138

“But they were recycling, right?

Saving the planet, right?

/s”

I can beat that: They COULD have sold their food stamps and would have probably got just about as much on the dollar. At least they were working for their money.

Double, vomitous /s


37 posted on 08/26/2011 9:23:00 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Technically it’s a scam but it’s a pretty pitiful scam.

Indeed, and that water was $6 but how much did it really cost taxpayers to get the $6 to that leach? All those gub'mint employees and their perks and their theft ...

38 posted on 08/26/2011 9:23:53 AM PDT by NativeSon
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To: dusttoyou
The government wasn't a terribly efficient distributor of goods. Grocery stores do a much better job of it AND, best of all, they are ubiquitous.

Then there's the problem in the inner cities where we have people in charge of children and they have no idea how to cook. I've participated in charitable activities that get around that problem ~ we taught the children to cook ~ I provided suitible recipes from my mother's vast knowledge of how poor people stretch their pennies.

We had 12 girlscout troops and about 5 boyscout groups, plus an older teenagers program ~ there were Catholic priests and nuns working with Lutheran and Baptist ministers, and folks with overseas missionary experience all over the place.

Someone got pots too. Many of them had no pots for cooking.

39 posted on 08/26/2011 9:27:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cynwoody

That’s something your average “I want to feel good about myself so I support public assistance policies” liberal really doesn’t, or refuses to, get -

people act rationally.

Whenever you try to address the issue from this angle, that people act rationally, they will deny it. Part of this, though, is that they have their own superiority complex to feed, thinking themselves “smarter than most people”.


40 posted on 08/26/2011 9:28:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: denydenydeny
The reason bottled water is on the list is very simple ~ there really are people so poor they don't have safe running water.
41 posted on 08/26/2011 9:29:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: The Antiyuppie

Buying bottles? I haven’t heard of that since I was a kid. We used to pick up Coke bottles to raise candy money.


42 posted on 08/26/2011 9:29:52 AM PDT by Brownie63
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To: ConservativeStatement
Simple soulution, take bottled water of the approved list for food stamps.

I did not know that they have deposits on water bottles in some places. No wonder water is $6 there; a 24 pack of Nestle water here is about $3.25

43 posted on 08/26/2011 9:31:08 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: ConservativeStatement

So THAT’S how we get the “bang for the foodstamp buck” Pelosi was talking about....../s


44 posted on 08/26/2011 9:32:49 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: ConservativeStatement

I can’t imagine doing all of that for a measley $2.40. And what can you get for $2.40? Can you even get drugs for that small amount of money??? I just can’t imagine being that hard up for money.


45 posted on 08/26/2011 9:35:12 AM PDT by sistabrista
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To: ConservativeStatement

Unintended consequence of environmentalism.

The funny thing is, the ‘bottled’ water is just the same as regular water. Here in Houston the bottled water comes from the very same Lake Houston (or Lake Livingston, or Lake Conroe) that the city water comes from.

Idiots.


46 posted on 08/26/2011 9:36:17 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder (I sure hope there is a New Morning in America soon. All this hope and change is leaving me depressed)
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To: Westbrook

I didn’t get it either, but now I understand from the comments.

What a pathetic use of time and waste of taxpayer money.


47 posted on 08/26/2011 9:38:32 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: "I love when the liberals get all wee-wee'd up.")
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To: Lady Lucky

“Would it not be simpler and more profitable to ask a friend to do some of his shopping with your food stamps?”

It would if you had friend who were not also already on food stamps. :)

Actually, I think they do what you describe too. Or at least they used to when it was actual food coupons. You could buy them at some discount to their face value.


48 posted on 08/26/2011 9:41:27 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: LearsFool
To return the empties and collect the deposit money.

In which case it wasn't "food stamp scam" and illegal but "food stamp abuse" and merely reprehensible. I wonder about this, though. I don't think that food stamps will pay for bottle deposits.
49 posted on 08/26/2011 9:42:18 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Westbrook

Hey C’mon! I don’t blame them! Have you seen the price of cigarettes lately? Or beer??? It’s outrageous! They had to get the money somehow! /s


50 posted on 08/26/2011 9:53:52 AM PDT by Jerry Attrick
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