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Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich Agree: It's Okay for the Feds to Force Workers to Pay Tribute to Union Bosses
1 posted on 08/26/2011 1:54:29 PM PDT by Nachum
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Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich Agree: There’s no point in either of them trying to win over the conservative base so it makes more sense for both of them to try to win over middle of the road republicans, independents, and disaffected democrats.


2 posted on 08/26/2011 1:58:20 PM PDT by RC one (NO MORE RINOs!!!)
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What?????
3 posted on 08/26/2011 1:59:15 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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The reason Perry is ahead right now not because he's that great, it's that Milt is so nothing.

Perry is just filling the vacuum that will disappear when Sarah declares.

4 posted on 08/26/2011 1:59:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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Newt already knew he was out of the running.

Now it seems that Mitt has just thrown in the towel.


5 posted on 08/26/2011 2:04:52 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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As smart as Newt is, he has to have taken leave of his senses to support something like that!

He has just proved he is a poor campaigner if that is true!


6 posted on 08/26/2011 2:05:18 PM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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Let’s fix that... Like so many things, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich agree wholeheartedly with Obama... They are cut from the same big government cloth, only difference is that Obama has no clue how to get anything done, whereas Mitt and Newt are more than eager to give away the store and give us mother government.


7 posted on 08/26/2011 2:05:58 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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". . . it is a freedom issue."

It is an individual freedom issue, indeed!

8 posted on 08/26/2011 2:06:20 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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Sorry boys. It will be a cold day in hell before I “join” a union.


9 posted on 08/26/2011 2:07:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If the Tea Party was a bunch of Islamofascist "rebels", would the state run "media" like us too?)
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“Franklin Roosevelt’s 1935 Wagoner Act used, for the first time, federal powers to force every working man and woman to pay a third party, Big Labor bosses, in order to get or keep a job. It was wrong then, and it is outrageous now.”

Actually, that was the Wagner Act, not the Wagoner Act, and it was Wagner’s, obviously, not FDR’s. I know, I know, president’s have to sign something for it to become law. But I think it’s important to clarify that Congress is primarily responsible for law, not the executive. Though in this case FDR had a chokehold on the legislature, it may not be to our liking to blame conservative presidents for their liberal Congresses.

That being said, I’m not overly familiar with the Wagner Act itself, but I do know that the “right” to collective bargaining wasn’t originally what we’ve taken it now to mean. All it really meant was that employers couldn’t stop employees from joining unions if they wanted to, which by the way was already the case before the law passed. No one was sneaking into potential union member’s bedrooms in the middle of the night to beat people with sticks until they agreed to stay company men anymore. Perhaps it meant businesses couldn’t make it a condition of employment to sign a pledge not to join a union anymore. Again, I don’t know all that much about it.

What I do know is that the idea wasn’t what Big Labor and lefties everywhere wanted it to be, i.e. so long as an entity—often entirely controlled from the outside—got a bare majority to sign a piece of paper the bosses had to deal with them and only them. Employers still should have been free to contract with minority unions, including company unions, and individuals. Heck, they could, and still can in my opinion, always tell everyone to go to hell and get off their property and start over with new employees. But the unions’ freedom to blockade, beseige, trespass, and inflict all manner of violence limits this.

It was left to the courts to interpret the right to bargain collectively with a right to a closed shop, and woe befell our nation.


10 posted on 08/26/2011 2:09:44 PM PDT by Tublecane
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I support neither Romney nor Gingrich, but this is garbage. Watch the clip. Neither one said they support the Federal Government forcing employees to join unions in this clip. What they said was that they believe that the Federal government (through the radicalization of the NLRB) is trying to take right to work away from the states. They said that right to work is a state's rights issue. Neither was asked about a Federal law banning forced unionization.

That said, as a Constitutional conservataive, I don't see where in the Constitution that the Congress would be given the right to pass such a law. Labor relations within a state are none of the Federal government's business. In his answer in the clip, Newt was exactly right.

11 posted on 08/26/2011 2:16:16 PM PDT by BruceS (If you refuse to support the lesser of two evils, then you are supporting the greater of two evils.)
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Why would Gingrich and Romney embrace it?

They’re both liberal losers?


17 posted on 08/26/2011 3:13:05 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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