Posted on 08/26/2011 5:56:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Goldwater was the pioneer, flawed yes but a pioneer nevertheless. And it’s to his campaign that we look if we want to see the beginning of what was to come, when we started to wring the liberalism out of the republican party.
From that point the republican party started to move back toward the right and it took a man of courage like Golwater to say to hell with it, let’s get this ball rolling in the right direction.
Did you read the book “Before the Storm?” That’s a great book to the leadup to the Goldwater campaign and what the country was like at the time. And then Stephen Hayward’s “The Age of Reagan” seems to pick up from that very spot to tell the rest of the story.
Best post of the thread.
It's the Politico - who expects facts from them? I challenge them to find an official quote where he said Texas should secede, or to find out where the constituipn allows for Social Security.
The other allegations are plusses for him - homosexuality and alcoholism are abnormalities and even if the 'condition" cannot be changed, the ACTIONS can be. I know homosexuals who opted to not practice the activities due to their own religious beliefs. I am a recovered alcoholic (always an alky, but not suffering from active drinking). Global warming is a fabrication that we cannot cause and could not stop if it were happening. As far as "having doubts" about evolution, what's wrong with that? Evolution is a theory, not a Law than can be absolutely proven any more than creationism can be disproven. Perry never said it's bunk, he just expressed doubts - a rational and healthy state of mind.
These grants that you cited may also be loan programs that pays the tuition costs and allows the student (or parents) to pay off during the school years and after graduation. All students compete for the same grant money and government subsidized loans. And, if you pay income taxes, there are nice tax deductions for the money you contribute. I for one would rather see a kid from illegal parents working towards a degree in engineering than working for a group of gang-bangers smuggling cocaine through Mexico. I expect an answer to this question: What would you do with the kids of illegal immigrants? If you give me no answer, you are a troll with no ideas. All you have is your talking points you picked up at the DU.
Texas was one of the first states to pass an in-state tuition bill for illegal immigrants. Ten states currently have such laws, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. About 12,138 children of immigrants got in-state tuition in 2009, about 1 percent of students in Texas trade schools, colleges, and universities. So why get our pants in a wad over 1 percent of the students? It makes conservatives out to be nitpickers on the fringe. Look at the numbers before paint ourselves in a corner: only 8,406 were in community and technical schools, only 3,725 at universities, and 7 at health-related institutes. Read a good summary of the current status of this issue in a Dallas Morning News article:
Critics have said it gives a financial advantage to illegal immigrants while U.S. citizens who are not Texas residents still must pay out-of-state tuition rates, which are higher. Personally, I don’t like giving illegals a favorable tuition rate over other state’s legal residents. However, we can understand Perry’s reasoning, even though we don’t like the conditions that made it necessary. The illegals have children and they are human beings to be treated with respect. I do think that there was some pandering to the Mexican immigrants (legal and illegal) behind the overwhelming votes for this bill. In the real world politicians do that.
As a measure of Texas’ version of the “Dream Act,” popularity, it should be noted that it passed the Texas Senate with NO “no” votes – Perry was not out on a limb on this one, it was overwhelmingly supported. It should also be noted that the Texas “Dream” act should not be confused with the federal version. The Texas version relates to higher education only whereas the federal act would facilitate giving legal status to children who entered the U.S. illegally with their parents.
When Perry compared homosexuality to alcoholism, and said that scientists drum up phony climate change data to make a buck, I reached for my check book and sent him a nice campaign contribution. This told me he knows the name of the game with politicians and grant money.
When you ask a homo how many sexual contacts they have in a week, that tells you that there is a certain amount of addiction involved in the lifestyle.
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