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WikiLeaks: Guantanamo detainee is now Libyan rebel leader (Obama just gave Libya to Al Qaeda)
the telegraph ^ | 4/26/2011 | Holly Watt

Posted on 08/27/2011 5:09:11 AM PDT by tobyhill

In a newly disclosed file by WikiLeaks that was written in 2005, Abu Sufian Ibrahim Ahmed Hamuda Bin Qumu was identified as a “probable member of Al Qaida and a member of the African Extremist Network”.

The revelation will raise concerns about the range of factions fighting Gadaffi in Libya, some of whom have been associated with Al Qaeda.

Qumu was previously a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, but allegedly left the proscribed group in 1998 to join the Taliban.

In the report, US investigators classified Qumu as a “medium to high” risk because he was “likely to pose a threat to the US, its interests and allies”.

Qumu was imprisoned in Libya for ten years for alleged “murder, physical assault, armed assault and distributing narcotics”, but escaped in 1993 and fled to Afghanistan.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1993; afghanistan; alqaeda; ansaralsharia; ansaralshariah; binqumu; guantanamo; guantanamodetainee; libya; libyarebelleader; lifg; qumoo; qumu; taliban; wikileaks

1 posted on 08/27/2011 5:09:15 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

And this is a surprise to ... whom ?


2 posted on 08/27/2011 5:14:17 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Nachum

One for the list ping!


3 posted on 08/27/2011 5:17:55 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: knarf

Just pointing out the obvious because it appears some people have blinders on.


4 posted on 08/27/2011 5:18:27 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: tobyhill
One of Juan Mc Cain's Heroes?
5 posted on 08/27/2011 5:20:30 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: tobyhill
(Obama, a go-along congress and a complicit media just gave Libya to Al Qaeda)
6 posted on 08/27/2011 5:21:27 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("Born in a well? Let me see that birth certificate again!")
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To: tobyhill

this can go in the “Blame Bush” file.....

no really....not sarcasm...he should have fought this like WW2 after 9/11....not Vietnam.

no quarter, no prisoners....destroyed mecca and medina vaporized tora bora....

...in other words he should have listened to Cheney.


7 posted on 08/27/2011 5:21:54 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: tobyhill

I don’t think 0bama is a US patriot...I could be wrong...but everything I was taught in the 80’s about the evil Soviet Union and how Marxist insurgencies operate - seems to be his entire administration’s tactics on how they conduct business...

maybe I’m just over thinking this whole situation...


8 posted on 08/27/2011 5:23:35 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: tobyhill

bump


9 posted on 08/27/2011 5:23:40 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: tobyhill
Yeah, I know.

I wasn't criticizin' you.

Just damned frustrated at the conflict in my brain.

I've been alive for 63 years, at least half of those years were in a concious and aware state .. (No, it wasn't Massachusetts)

Anyway, though the testosterone wans as the years go by, the lessons and memories of how those lessons were learned have been part and parcel with my time as a father of three sons.

And I think EVERY man has used his growing years as a means of judging what to say or do with sons.

And we all learned real quick that big guys were ususally winners over little guys and that little guys needed help or an equalizer.

Now .. we're the united States of America, and no matter WHAT anyone else may say or think, we ARE the bigger guy.

So my mind is so conflicted with what I as an individual am and what my nation is acting like in front of the girls.

It's a damned shame and a sin for the toughest and most decent place on earth to be trampled by lesser examples of God's creative work.

If I ever find out I'm terminal ... y'all read about me doin' SOMEthin' drastic.

10 posted on 08/27/2011 5:29:31 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf
It seems as though Obama is so anti-Bush that he literally set out and promised to Al-Qaeda to give them a couple countries.

Some people think Obama is actually smart but I think he's dumber than a bag of rocks.

11 posted on 08/27/2011 5:34:48 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: BCW

The Soviets have been busy installing their people in our Federal Government for the last 73 years. That’s SEVENTY-THREE YEARS.

Roosevelt ignored them, Truman covered for them and Congress turned on Senator Joe McCarthy for trying to warn us and destroyed him.

It’s a little late now.


12 posted on 08/27/2011 5:34:58 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: tobyhill

We are supposed to believe this was a big victory for freedom.

uh huh


13 posted on 08/27/2011 5:42:04 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Vaquero

Actually, according to the article you can literally blame Bush for this. It says that this guy was turned over to Libya in 2007.


14 posted on 08/27/2011 5:54:56 AM PDT by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: tobyhill

“WikiLeaks: Guantanamo detainee is now Libyan rebel leader (Obama just gave Libya to Al Qaeda)”

Point of fact the Bush Administration was responsible for his release in 2007.

So maybe you should say Bush/Obama just gave Libya to AL Qaeda


15 posted on 08/27/2011 5:56:33 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: BubbaJunebug
Bush didn't give Libya to Al-Qaeda. The “Arab Spring” started under Obama. Ole Daffy had a pretty good grip on Al-Qaeda even up until the time that Obama stuck his nose in it.

I agree that Bush shouldn't have released him but if it wasn't this Al-qaeda guy then Obama would find another one to lead the “rebels”.

16 posted on 08/27/2011 6:07:40 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: tobyhill
Lets see here...

In the 80's Al-Qaeda was financed, trained, and armed by the US to attack the Russians.

In the 90's Al-Qaeda was financed, trained, and armed by the US to attack the Serbs.

In the 2010's Al-Qaeda was financed, trained, and armed by the US to attack the Libyans.

Are we noticing a pattern here people?

17 posted on 08/27/2011 6:08:59 AM PDT by Roninf5-1
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To: outofstyle
We made the same mistake Gadaffi did, we didn't put a bullet in his head when we had the chance to do so.
18 posted on 08/27/2011 6:09:57 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: tobyhill

If he was know al Qaida then why was he released from Gitmo in 2007?


19 posted on 08/27/2011 6:17:23 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: SoJoCo
Because our idiots in Congress and activist Courts forced the military commission to order releases of prisoners if the evidence was circumstantial and/or they were considered “rehabilitated”.
20 posted on 08/27/2011 6:23:47 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: tobyhill

We must also remember that when Bushwas President, the attacks from the Democrats on Guantanomo were at their height. He was pressured from the word go.

Now the thing about Bush is that he succombed to that pressure, He passed the first stimulus under pressure and he did not use Guantanomo as he should have. Much like his daddy succombed to his Read my lips no new tax’s,

They both folded up like a cheap suit and it destroyed both their legacy’s.


21 posted on 08/27/2011 6:31:23 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: tobyhill

It’s the “Arab Spring,” and Obama is happy to see Al Qaeda bustin’ out all over.


22 posted on 08/27/2011 6:35:36 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Roninf5-1

Al Qaeda was supported by the types like Libya, so, this is the irony of it. We have been infiltrated through the Democratic party.

This is Karma upon karma, so to speak. Karma on Gadaffi and Karma on liberal sectors of America.


23 posted on 08/27/2011 6:43:48 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: RoadTest

The Soviet base of governance has been within our Nation for a longer time, at least from the time of Wilson and the influx of European people into our Nation’s financial structure. Recall that the communist takeover of Russia had financial support from other places in Europe.


24 posted on 08/27/2011 6:53:39 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: kittymyrib

Actually this camelhumper has probably been rehabilitated. We use “art therapy.” Very successful I’ve heard. Finger painting you know. It’s the Arab Spring. I’ve heard that these new Libyan leaders are actually Jeffersonian democrats. They will insure that all children have an unlimited supply of lollypops. They have a program to save the whales. They have invited Lady Gaga to lead their gay pride parade. If it doesn’t turn out this way it will certainly be UNEXPECTED! Of course I am being facetious. However, has anyone noticed that people celebrating the Arab Spring have an emotional attachment to their belief that resists reality. It is something like Obamaphilia. All tingle up the leg.


25 posted on 08/27/2011 7:05:06 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: outofstyle

It says that this guy was turned over to Libya in 2007....Yes, but maybe with the hope Khadaffy would foresee the future and cut his gonads off, which we couldn’t do?


26 posted on 08/27/2011 7:07:08 AM PDT by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: knarf

ditto.


27 posted on 08/27/2011 7:11:36 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: tobyhill
Qumu was sent back to Libya in 2007 and released from prison in 2008 under an amnesty.

So Bush released him?

28 posted on 08/27/2011 7:18:33 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: airborne
No, Bush sent him back to Libya and Qadaffi released him.
29 posted on 08/27/2011 7:22:44 AM PDT by tobyhill (A Democrat that doesn't lie would be a lie)
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To: Roninf5-1
Are we noticing a pattern here people?

Imperialism transcends political parties and is good at utilizing any methods or tools at hand? Those "rebels" didn't overthrow Gadaffi.

U.S. and NATO assets overthrew Libya. We all know why.

You didn't mention that it was our own CIA which put Saddam in power and that he fought a proxy war with Iran that killed several hundred thousand Iragi's. We funded that war too. We don't seem to have much left to us to export anymore. We don't manufacture much anymore. But we do war better than anyone else. It's our biggest export.

30 posted on 08/27/2011 8:04:28 AM PDT by KDD (When the government boot is on your neck, it matters not whether it is the right boot or the left.)
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To: BCW

“I could be wrong.”
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

You are absolutely wrong...you are wrong in thinking that you might be wrong in thinking that Obama is NOT an American patriot! He is anything BUT an American patriot, he is an enemy of America, two years ago most would have said you must be crazy to believe that, now most people I know would say that you would be crazy NOT to believe that. Only the willfully blind still believe that Obama wishes anything good for this country.

Regardless of how many Freepers call him a nut or worse Alan Keyes had it right about what Obama is back in February of 2009. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlTgrMCxPg


31 posted on 08/27/2011 8:05:02 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: tobyhill

I guess Zero has officially surrendered in the WOT and is helping give AQ these nations as some sort of tribute?


32 posted on 08/27/2011 8:19:43 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: tobyhill
No, Bush sent him back to Libya and Qadaffi released him.

Not trying to start an argument - I seriously want to know . . .

Were we expecting Qadaffi to actually help us out, and keep him in prison?

Seems more likely to me that sending him back to Libya was going to result in his release.

If I'm wrong, please tell me so.

33 posted on 08/27/2011 10:06:46 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: tobyhill
Since Al Ciada is an American ally, will Al Ciada's banner fly over 9/11 memorial?

Will all brave Americans who died in Afghanistan and Iraq be considered traitors?

34 posted on 08/27/2011 12:09:39 PM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: RipSawyer

I was being sarcastic....he’s anything but a US citizen and everything he has done is illegal....every document that has his signature on it should be void and thrown out....I can’t believe the US is in the current state of chaos...I hold the press and media responsible and those that have allowed people who have made a career on entitlements to vote this idiot and traitor into office....

...does the above sound much better and to the point...?


35 posted on 08/27/2011 1:43:25 PM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: RoadTest

I was being sarcastic....he’s anything but a US citizen and everything he has done is illegal....every document that has his signature on it should be void and thrown out....I can’t believe the US is in the current state of chaos...I hold the press and media responsible and those that have allowed people who have made a career on entitlements to vote this idiot and traitor into office....

...does the above sound much better and to the point...?

I posted this to another as well -— might want to check out my website — you’ll see that is exactly what I’m doing - trying to warn others of the threat!


36 posted on 08/27/2011 1:44:40 PM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: BCW

Yes!


37 posted on 08/27/2011 7:36:43 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: tobyhill

If O’Reilly and Fox News is in the tank for Obamas wars, Who is looking out for us?


38 posted on 08/27/2011 7:43:37 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: Brimack34
Nobody.

Mark Levin has been cheerleading for the Al Qaeda terrorists since day one.

It's infuriating that people like him are still saying it's OK that Obama can help terrorists.
39 posted on 08/27/2011 7:46:48 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: JudgemAll
1998 : (LIBYA : LIBYAN ISLAMIC FIGHTING GROUP ATTEMPTS TO ASSASSINATE KADHAFI; HE ISSUES AN ARREST WARRANT FOR OSAMA BIN LADEN)

Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghrib , AQIM, was opposed to Qadaffi. The feeling was mutual... It is true Qadaffi was a supporter of FARC against the US. He was also a supporter of the PFLP at various times, and Abu Nidal Organization [as was Saddam Hussein, to whose country ANO moved in 1999 when Qadhaffi's supposedly moderate son Seif made an agreement with the UK -and probably our State Dept- to lift sanctions on Libya if Libya rejected terrorism and fessed up to the Pan Am bombing], but Qaddaffi doesn't appear to have any fondness for or need for AQ .

40 posted on 08/27/2011 8:48:36 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

Thanks penopesire

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


41 posted on 08/27/2011 10:44:19 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: tobyhill

This is so sickening.


42 posted on 08/28/2011 7:38:27 PM PDT by Karliner ("If we were real domestic terrorists, shoot, Obama would want to pal around with us, wouldn't he?")
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To: piasa

Plenty of pro Kaddafi people in the US happy that the muslim brotherhood scum is coming here. This is the whole point. KAddafi et al. supported the 911 bombing.

It is obvious the “moderate muslim” loophole and false congeniality is in favor of those terror sponsoring dictator. Kaddafi had his own gang of Suddanese protecting his oil, and they were the ones shooting his population up... and the list goes on.


43 posted on 08/29/2011 9:37:27 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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