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Illegal immigration is not to blame for fatality, Patrick says
Boston Globe - ^ | August 27, 2011 | Maria Sacchetti

Posted on 08/27/2011 6:51:37 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

Governor Deval Patrick said yesterday that he shared the community’s outrage over the death of a 23-year-old Milford man struck last week by an alleged drunk driver who was also an illegal immigrant. But the governor urged people not to blame the death on illegal immigration.Matthew Denice was on his motorcycle last Saturday when he was hit in Milford and dragged for a quarter-mile. Nicolas Guaman, a 34-year-old immigrant from Ecuador, has pleaded not guilty to charges that include vehicular homicide while under the influence.

“It’s a terrible, terrible tragedy,’’ Patrick said at the end of a news conference about preparations for Hurricane Irene. But, he added, “Illegal immigration didn’t kill this person. A drunk driver killed this person, and we have laws about that. And I expect the book to be thrown at this person.’’

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aliens; driver; drunk; ecuador; illegalalien; immigration; ma
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Some time ago.” Perhaps last month. That’s when Patrick was in Milford for a town-hall-style forum. Angry locals confronted him with signs, like “When will you secure OUR community?” They begged him then to end this ridiculous policy, told him of residents killed by illegal immigrants in the recent past.

What did Patrick tell them?

“We don’t need Secure Communities.” All it does is “give the impression that we are doing something. sums it all up very well

1 posted on 08/27/2011 6:51:41 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Dead Americans are just acceptable collateral damage to the open border traitors.

There will be a reckoning, some day.


2 posted on 08/27/2011 6:53:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: moonshinner_09

Thats Right and the Guns dont kill people either,people do.


3 posted on 08/27/2011 6:54:02 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Travis McGee
Dead Americans are just acceptable collateral damage to the open border traitors.

Well put.
4 posted on 08/27/2011 6:54:41 AM PDT by rockvillem
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To: moonshinner_09
But, he added, “Illegal immigration A gun didn’t kill this person. A drunk driver person using the gun illegally killed this person, and we have laws about that. And I expect the book to be thrown at this person.’’

Funny how some things read differently when they have the same meaning and the subject is changed.

5 posted on 08/27/2011 6:58:33 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: moonshinner_09

He says we have laws to deal with drunk driving. Well, we also have laws that deal with ILLEGAL immigrants! Enforce ALL laws, ignorant Patrick!


6 posted on 08/27/2011 6:58:53 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: moonshinner_09

“Illegal immigration didn’t kill this person. A drunk driver killed this person, and we have laws about that.”

I thought we had laws about ILLEGAL immigration as well.

Oh wait! They don’t apply to people who vote for Democrats, eh Paddy me boyo?


7 posted on 08/27/2011 6:59:16 AM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: moonshinner_09

Excuses like this are the most pathetic.

Its like saying, if the illegal didn’t kill the victim, an American would have done it anyway.


8 posted on 08/27/2011 6:59:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: moonshinner_09

You have a ruling elite that DOES NOT CARE that invaders come into our country, flaunt the law, murder tax-paying citizens, and are the beneficiaries of the largesse of the bounty that the people they killed created!

It is NUTS! The very definition of INSANITY!


9 posted on 08/27/2011 7:00:01 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: rockvillem
What really matters to the traitor ‘rats is importing an unbeatable voting block of illiterate welfare cases who will depend on the ‘rat party for their daily subsistence.

Dead Americans are nothing compared to that goal.

10 posted on 08/27/2011 7:00:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Dead Americans are just acceptable collateral damage to the open border traitors.

It's the price we have to pay to "balance" the electorate so we can transform America.

11 posted on 08/27/2011 7:00:43 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: moonshinner_09

“Illegal immigration didn’t kill this person... a drunk driver did”.

I disagree. If the person wasn’t in this country ILLEGALLY, then the accident wouldn’t have occurred. Period. We have some friends who lost their Dad in a similar way (illegal, drunk driving accident). The most difficult part of the tragedy for the family to accept was that someone who shouldn’t have been here... took their Father’s life. They felt like our government has allowed this to occur by not securing the borders AND throwing out anyone illegal. Can’t blame them.


12 posted on 08/27/2011 7:02:35 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: moonshinner_09

He sounds like a complete idiot here.


13 posted on 08/27/2011 7:04:18 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: moonshinner_09
“It’s a terrible, terrible tragedy,’’ Patrick said...

But, he votes the right way.

14 posted on 08/27/2011 7:04:34 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (I'll follow an eloquent Allen West out of hell.)
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To: moonshinner_09

“A drunk driver killed this person.”

What a stupid statement.

It is not as if it was an accident. They knowingly and willfully ignored the law for political reason and the casualty was an innocent American citizen.


15 posted on 08/27/2011 7:06:01 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: cripplecreek

Just doing the jobs Americans don’t want to.........


16 posted on 08/27/2011 7:06:29 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I hope people will consider how different America would be if we weren’t overrun with illegals.

If there are 30 million illegals in this country, that’s enough to populate more than 50 congressional districts. They may not all vote but they are changing congressional maps simply by being here and being counted in the census.

Without those illegals, its entirely possible that there would be many less democrat seats to deal with.


17 posted on 08/27/2011 7:07:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: rockvillem
Just the facts:

A criminal alien killed this person.

Islam killed 3000 people on 9-11.

Why do these people feel the need to defend criminals and terrorists?

Honesty from politicians would be refreshing.

18 posted on 08/27/2011 7:08:28 AM PDT by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: cripplecreek

“Without those illegals, its entirely possible that there would be many less democrat seats to deal with....”

Ummm...I think that’s the idea...


19 posted on 08/27/2011 7:09:27 AM PDT by mo
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To: moonshinner_09; All
Sneaking suspicion here..FWIW....many here will recall the 1988 election..when Willie Horton became a BIG issue ( although Dems conveniently forget that it was Gore who first raised it against Dukakis) and later on, during the debate, when Dukakis was asked, if his wife Kitty was raped and murdered, would he want the death penalty for her killer?

I think that this incident..and the whole question of illegals and crime, and how Mass handles, or more accurately, doesn't handle it....will become a BIG, if not defining issue in the Senate race...and Brfown will hang it aroudn Warren's neck like a 500 lb lead weight..

20 posted on 08/27/2011 7:09:46 AM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK three miles every day!)
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To: cripplecreek

His birth doomed him to death. Now we can save the Social Security payouts. /s


21 posted on 08/27/2011 7:10:51 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Democrats: debt, dependence and derision)
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To: Panzerlied

“I thought we had laws about ILLEGAL immigration as well.”

You know, my father came from Mass, but they re-elected this dope.

He’s right and you’re right. Illegal immigration did’t cause this, it was the failure to enforce the law that caused this.

This man was a one man wrecking crew. He assaulted a cop and a fireman he was still free to wreck mayhem.

Now we’ll get to feed him, house him and clothe him for the next several years.

Then he’ll probably get amnesty.

GREAT JOB!


22 posted on 08/27/2011 7:11:18 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: moonshinner_09

When politicians and journalists tell foreigners they can ignore our laws, politicians and journalists should bear personal responsibility when their poor decisions result in the death of American citizens. It would be a huge benefit for our economy if we brought back our ground forces from Europe and stationed them on our southern border.


23 posted on 08/27/2011 7:25:13 AM PDT by sforkjoe57 (How much longer must Americans be slaves to the stupidity of John Maynard Keynes?)
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To: moonshinner_09

The Governor practicing the ago old tactic of “Deflection” in order to focus the spotlight somewhere else.


24 posted on 08/27/2011 7:26:06 AM PDT by Ron H. (Loving my Deering Goodtime 2 Classic 5-stringer)
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To: moonshinner_09
THE GUB'NAH IS SAYIN'...

"WHO YA GONNA TRUST??"

ME...??
....OR YOUR OWN LYIN' EYES AND COMMON SENSE?"

We have beecome soooooo open-minded...
-- OUR FREAKIN' BRAINS ARE FALLING OUTTTT!!!

25 posted on 08/27/2011 7:26:49 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: moonshinner_09

yet the people in massachusetts keep voting for liberal democrats.


26 posted on 08/27/2011 7:28:20 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: moonshinner_09

I can’t even imagine living in Massachusetts. It would be like being the only sane person on a planet of blind retards.


27 posted on 08/27/2011 7:35:14 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: moonshinner_09

Idiot governor, we have laws against drunken driving, we also have laws against breaking into the damn country. Damn Yankee fool, oh damn, we have another one like him in Texas. Funny how you have a special class of people that only selected laws apply to.


28 posted on 08/27/2011 7:37:56 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Illegal immigration is not to blame for fatality?

Maybe YOU’RE to blame Patrick.


29 posted on 08/27/2011 7:38:53 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Rabid democRATS and 0bama the dictator own it all now.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Patrick is full of horseshit. Illegal entry facilitated the crime. Had it not occurred, the crime would not have occurred. If you rob a bank and someone gets killed by your accomplices, you can and usually are charged with murder even though you didn’t commit it. Liberals will kill you to see their ideals and voters protected.


30 posted on 08/27/2011 7:40:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Never on my watch

Good question to ask George W. Perry , what makes a certain type of person above the law. How does a person that is a known illegal get rewarded with a subsidize education.


31 posted on 08/27/2011 7:44:22 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Illegal immigration didn’t kill this person. A drunk driver killed this person

So Deval, illegal immigration had nothing to do with this, but the Tea Party and Sarah Palin had everything to do with the Arizona shootings. Got it.

32 posted on 08/27/2011 7:46:56 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: BigCinBigD

If it wasn’t for Massachusetts and California I’d be living in the most insane state in the union.


33 posted on 08/27/2011 7:51:15 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: BigCinBigD

If it wasn’t for Massachusetts and California I’d be living in the most insane state in the union.


34 posted on 08/27/2011 7:51:26 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Right Brother

And yet Deval will blame a gun for the death of someone and not the person holding the gun. Strange how his logic (or lack of it) changes.


35 posted on 08/27/2011 7:51:50 AM PDT by PDGearhead (Obama's lack of citizenship)
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To: BigCinBigD
I can’t even imagine living in Massachusetts

Same here.

36 posted on 08/27/2011 7:53:49 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: moonshinner_09

A drunk driver killed this man, we have laws against drunk driving....yada yada yada...

Hey, Deval, we also have laws against illegal immigration, so why don’t you enforce them!


37 posted on 08/27/2011 7:56:09 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: moonshinner_09

“I expect the book to be thrown at this person.’’

But only part of the book. The part Deval thinks should be enforced.


38 posted on 08/27/2011 7:58:47 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: moonshinner_09
Governor Deval Patrick >>>>>>

Massachusetts re-elected this dumbass POS Obama clone so they get what they deserve. Deval Partick and Obama love this 3rd world invasion which means white people become a minority even quicker in the country we built and died for in wars and the Democrats get more gimme voters

39 posted on 08/27/2011 8:01:49 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: freespirited
He sounds like a complete idiot here.

He sounds like this all the time, he is an idiot. Trust me.

40 posted on 08/27/2011 8:04:15 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: moonshinner_09
“Illegal immigration didn’t kill this person. A drunk driver killed this person, and we have laws about that. ..."

We have laws about illegal immigration too. Idiot.

41 posted on 08/27/2011 8:05:10 AM PDT by Principled
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To: moonshinner_09

This asshat is a friend to all criminals. Read about Ben LaGuer, convicted rapist and how deval went to bat for him. Especially take note of the section “Political use of LaGuer case.....”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_LaGuer


42 posted on 08/27/2011 8:09:08 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: moonshinner_09
urged people not to blame the death on illegal immigration

Of all the crimes in America that cannot be prevented, those committed by Illegal Immigrants surely can. If they were not here, they could not do the crime.

DEPORT THEM ALL!!!!

43 posted on 08/27/2011 8:10:42 AM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US Government to Kill Commies and Radical Moo-slims. Now ain't that irOnic?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Illegal immigration is not to blame for fatality?
Maybe YOU’RE to blame Patrick.

Deval, "marsha marsha" and mumbles menino (mayor) ALL have blood on their hands for this and other criminal acts committed by ILLEGALS on AMERICAN CITIZENS in this state.

44 posted on 08/27/2011 8:13:15 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Wow. You guys in Massachusetts really know how to pick out leftists to run your state. You can move to my state if you want, as long as you leave behind your poor judgment and notion that the way you do things is better. If you can’t come here and leave well enough alone, then stay and suffer. Have you ever considered seceding from the Union and becoming a Canadian province? You’d be just as well off. In fact, I’d like to see all the northeast, the northern tier states, Washington and Oregon become part of Canada. We could let Mexico have California and from Fort Lauderdale south could become Cuban.We would be rid of most of the Socialists and Communists in America plus a huge majority of the illegal immigrants. They could impoverish themselves with the parasites in society they love so much and the rest of us could get back to a Constitutional form of government. It’s a win - win. They get what they want (centralized government in every facet of their existence) and we get what we want (not having to deal with them and their stupid ideas like illegal immigration is not the root cause of why an illegal immigrant is charged in vehicular homicide).


45 posted on 08/27/2011 8:34:03 AM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: moonshinner_09

When is Patrick up for re-election?


46 posted on 08/27/2011 8:37:25 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Travis McGee

That would make a really good protest sign—”Dead Americans-Collateral Damage”.


47 posted on 08/27/2011 8:40:11 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Panzerlied

As Teddy K. once said....Hasta la victoria! Their victory-not ours.


48 posted on 08/27/2011 8:42:40 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Travis McGee

The “hard-working” illegals often have their wives at home collecting all the welfare benefits while pretending that they have no husbands. The man steals an American’s jobs, while the woman steals the American’s money.


49 posted on 08/27/2011 8:46:36 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cripplecreek
I am at least heartened by the fact that thousands of people can out to that candle light vigil in Milford. It is usually La Raza or other leftist scumbags that are in the streets protesting some alleged “injustice”. This is a very public demonstration which makes politicians run scared.

For years, our only means of communicating the injuries done to Americans by illegals, has been through the internet. Many internet websites have shown the crimes committed against Americans, but the internet was not enough because it is not such a public format as a street protest. When people get out into the streets in large numbers and state their case in a law abiding way, there is no way to hide this from the public. There is no better way to put pressure on politicians than to get out in public and speak your mind. Finally, people have had enough and they are expressing their justifiable anger in a very public way.

50 posted on 08/27/2011 8:58:18 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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