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Peggy Noonan: Is Rick Perry too macho?
Hot Air ^ | August 25, 2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on 08/27/2011 8:00:56 AM PDT by AAABEST

I can’t shake the feeling that this column might not be well received by the base.

She’s referring, of course, to his comments about Bernanke’s near-treason and offhand musings about secession:

Mr. Perry’s primary virtue for the Republican base is that he means it. He comes across as a natural conservative, Texas Division, who won’t be changing his mind about his basic premises any time soon. His professed views don’t seem to be an outfit he can put on and take off at will. In this of course he’s the anti-Romney. Unlike Ms. Bachmann, he has executive experience, three terms as governor of a state with 25 million people.

His primary flaw appears to be a chesty, quick-draw machismo that might be right for an angry base but wrong for an antsy country. Americans want a president who feels their anger without himself walking around enraged…

[T]he nation is roiling and restive. After Mr. Obama was elected, the right became angry, feisty, and created a new and needed party, the tea party. The right was on fire. The next time a Republican wins, and that could be next year, it will be the left that shows real anger, with unemployment high and no jobs available and government spending and services likely to be cut. The left will be on fire. The only thing leashing them now is the fact of Mr. Obama.

So there will be plenty of new angers out there. It probably won’t be helpful if the next president is someone likely to add to the drama with a hot temperament or carelessness.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


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His primary flaw appears to be a chesty, quick-draw machismo that might be right for an angry base but wrong for an antsy country.

Yes Peggy, the very personality trait (MANLINESS) that is one of best assets, is his "primary flaw."

As was the situation with Noonan and Palin, Peggy won't simply come out and say that she can't stand Perry. Like Rove and the rest of the threatened elites, she defaults to playing the role of "concern troll."

They really have our best interests at heart (really) - they're just... concerned.


1 posted on 08/27/2011 8:01:01 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST

is peggy noonan too stupid?


2 posted on 08/27/2011 8:02:14 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: AAABEST

Concern Trolls! LOL! And LTG too (Love the Graphic!)


3 posted on 08/27/2011 8:04:42 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Half the lies they tell about me ain't true." - Yogi Berra)
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To: AAABEST
Is Rick Perry too macho?

No, he is to socialist and too much of an open borders RINO.


4 posted on 08/27/2011 8:05:33 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: AAABEST

Peggy Noonan hungers for the manhood of Barack Obama.


5 posted on 08/27/2011 8:08:15 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ken21

Peggy Noonan is a NY city girl who’s pro’bly never met a real macho man. NYC only sports the limp wristed men who currently once in awhile pretend to be macho men on a stage or screen.

She’s pro’bly never met a true son of the soil who is big, yet gentle, but believes that direct speaking is best, and calling a spade a spade. She’s used to smarmy smootheness and prattling pimpies.

I seriously doubt she’s ever even broken a fingernail in an honest day’s work.


6 posted on 08/27/2011 8:08:38 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: AAABEST

For peggy - most certainly. Chaz Bono is probably too macho for peggy ;-)


7 posted on 08/27/2011 8:09:43 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: AAABEST
His professed views don’t seem to be an outfit he can put on and take off at will.

And this... person?.... thinks that is a problem? Speaks volumes for who she would think is right for us. Glad I can tell her to take a flying leap a a rolling donut.

/johnny

8 posted on 08/27/2011 8:10:27 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ken21

Peggy highlighted her own irrelevance through comments about Obama. She needs to get off the valium, hooch, oxi-codone, or whatever has her living in la-la land. Maybe she just ought to move out of the liberal wasteland.


9 posted on 08/27/2011 8:10:47 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: AAABEST

“I can’t shake the feeling that this column might not be well received by the base.”

Don’t know what base you mean, Noonan, but I stopped reading right there. Saw it was you.


10 posted on 08/27/2011 8:10:56 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: AAABEST
Hopefully what follows won't offend anyone...

I've long thought that Noonan high poin was the Challenger speech she wrote for Reagan. It was absolutely perfect, struck just the right note, and equally as important...it came across as perfectly natural for Reagan....

Admittedly, it's hard to top that..but for Peggy, it's been all downhill ever since...but since 2006, the slide has been more like a plunge to the bottom of an elevator shaft..almost straight down...

Since she was discussing Perry's presumptive "macho" quotient..I suspect that Peggy just needs to get l**d...

11 posted on 08/27/2011 8:11:11 AM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK three miles every day!)
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To: AAABEST

A real man is not the same thing being “macho.”

A real man shows he can meet the toughest challenge—the test of morals. If Perry has done this, I haven’t seen it.

Before I support Perry, I want to see his record of manliness.


12 posted on 08/27/2011 8:11:24 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: AAABEST

What’s wrong Peggy? Concerned because ... oh horrors of horrors, he is an Eagle Scout, supports the Boys Scouts, and follows the 12 points of the Scout Law?

•Trustworthy,
•Loyal,
•Helpful,
•Friendly,
•Courteous,
•Kind,
•Obedient,
•Cheerful,
•Thrifty,
•Brave,
•Clean,
•and Reverent.


13 posted on 08/27/2011 8:11:31 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: ken21

“is peggy noonan too stupid?”

Ha ha! Exactly my thought when I read the headline.


14 posted on 08/27/2011 8:13:37 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: RowdyFFC

I generally like Peggy’s writing. I don’t always agree , and she can be very touchy-feely which I find irritating in the age of Oprah.

Her attitude on Perry reminds me of my wife, who simply doesn’t like Perry’s looks and persona. I’m going to discuss this with her further and get her to come around.

Obama is a girlie man, and while I’m certainly not a Marlboro Man myself, I recognize a man’s man in a leader, and I like it. My Dad was like that. I aspire to that.


15 posted on 08/27/2011 8:14:01 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: MrEdd

give it up.

Trying to paint Perry as a RINO is about as silly as a group of KKK members debating whether David Duke is a “Racist In Name Only”.


16 posted on 08/27/2011 8:14:25 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: AAABEST

17 posted on 08/27/2011 8:14:57 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: AAABEST

More trip from a brain-dead self-appointed elitist dimwit who was convinced of the skid mark’s “brilliance”. Hey Peggy.... STFU.


18 posted on 08/27/2011 8:15:08 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: shield

19 posted on 08/27/2011 8:15:31 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: ken21
Senile for sure. Dame Peggy has long since retired to the Van Voorhees Newport Topsider Club of Elitist Commentators masquarading as conservative thought.
20 posted on 08/27/2011 8:16:12 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: AAABEST

I believe the only reason Peggy has any readers is because reading her articles are like blowing on a toothache to see if it still hurts.


21 posted on 08/27/2011 8:16:18 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: AAABEST

Love the “concern trolls”!!!
Please use this grahic every time some two-faced ‘journalist’ uses this tactic to cast doubt on one of our R candidates.

Now is the time for Republicans to decided who our candidate will be.
We need to listen to the candidates themselves and not what some limp wristed ‘journalist’ writes about them.
This media is full of media-whores who want to make our decisions for us!


22 posted on 08/27/2011 8:16:28 AM PDT by IceAge
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To: AAABEST

It’s becoming increasingly difficult for me to tell Peggy Noonan and Maureen O’Dowd apart.


23 posted on 08/27/2011 8:16:41 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: AAABEST

LaRaza loves him.


24 posted on 08/27/2011 8:17:36 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: ken21
"Is Peggy Noonan too stupid?"

Does stupid mean she is really, awfully, terribly, much too, too, too refined (in her really, awfully, terribly little pea brain) to appreciate Perry, Palin et al? If so, then, yeah! she's stupid.

vaudine

25 posted on 08/27/2011 8:18:35 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: AAABEST

No. The last thing we need is another p*ssy like our current metrosexual in the WH.


26 posted on 08/27/2011 8:18:35 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: RowdyFFC

The Hispanic idea of macho is something that transcends the bullying gay caricature idol that Norteamericano culture has made of it. It is more like hero and gentleman rolled into one. The authentic macho is also a mensch.


27 posted on 08/27/2011 8:19:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: AAABEST
Great graphics and post...Rick Perry scares the stuff out of all the liberal and RINOS which Noonan seems to fall in that category..She wants people to think she is for the Conservative but actually she is a Liberal lover..She is a diehard Obama fan.. There are those here that know noting about Perry but seems to always quote some MSN source which all of those are liberal run... here is a little of what Peggy is..A two faced liar..

She then praised Sarah Palin one day, trashed her a few days later not knowing that MSNBC’s hidden mics were recording her conversation, and then trashed Mr. Palin in writing in her column.

http://zeroupdates.blogspot.com/2009/06/peggy-noonan-reagan-conservative-to.html

28 posted on 08/27/2011 8:26:45 AM PDT by PLD
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To: AAABEST

Hey Peggy “Obama Sucker” Noonan... this one’s for you:

For the few of you who have missed him, R. Lee Ermey is the host of The History Channel’s “ Mail Call “ and played the Drill Instructor in the movie, “ Full Metal Jacket. “ He recently played the totally unsympathetic psychiatrist in a GIECO commercial. He is a retired Marine Gunnery Sergeant and a very plain speaker, as you will soon read. So, for your entertainment, here is Retired Marine Gunnery Sergeant R. Lee Ermey at his first press conference. The main topic of discussion is the Marine in Iraq who shot an Iraqi insurgent to death.

We pick up as a reporter asks about “ how this potential war crime will affect our image in the world “:

Ermey: “WHAT KIND OF A PANSY-ASSED QUESTION IS THAT?”

Reporter 1: “Well, sir I think....”

Ermey: “THINK, FANCY BOY ??! GET THIS THROUGH THAT SEPTIC TANK ON TOP OF YOUR SHOULDERS, MORON : I DON’T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU THINK, DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?? THAT MARINE SHOT AN ENEMY COMBATANT, SHITHEAD. SO GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND DEAL WITH IT BEFORE I MAKE YOU MY OWN PERSONAL PIN CUSHION!!!

NEXT QUESTION: YOU IN THE BLUE SUIT.”

Reporter 2: Don’t you think that the world’s opinion of our operations is important ?

Ermey: “OH SURE! YOU DON’T KNOW THE TIMES I HAVE CRIED MYSELF TO SLEEP WORRYING ABOUT WHAT SOME GODDAMNED FRENCH PANSY THINKS! OH THE DAYS I HAVE HAD TO WEEP, BECAUSE SOME SHIT EATING TERRORIST SCUMBAG MIGHT BE MAD AT US, BECAUSE WE WENT INTO WHATEVER GOD FORSAKEN HOLE IN THE SHIT THAT HE LIVES IN AND KILLED HIM. WHAT THE HELL KIND OF DUMBASS QUESTION IS THAT YOU PETER-PUFFING JACKASS? WE ARE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA , AND WHEN YOU ATTACK US, WE ARE GOING TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND BLOW YOUR STINKING CAMEL-LICKING CARCASS INTO PIECES SO SMALL WE WILL BE ABLE TO BURY YOUR SORRY ASS IN A THIMBLE! YEAH, I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE THINKING. YOU ARE PROBABLY AFRAID, THINKING THAT I HAVE SUCH AN “EXTREME” ATTITUDE AND THAT I NEED TO BE MORE “SENSITIVE” TO OTHER PEOPLE’S FEELINGS. WELL LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING YOU POLE-SMOKING PANSY! I DON’T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE THINKS! THIS IS A DAMN WAR, AND IF YOU CAN’T HANDLE THAT, THEN YOU SHOULD GO HOME AND SUCK ON MAMMA’S TIT! DO YOU HEAR ME YOU RUNT? NOW GET THE HELL OUT OF MY PRESS ROOM BEFORE I GO CRAZY AND KICK THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOU!!

NEXT QUESTION: YOU WITH THE UGLY-ASSED TIE, LOOK AT THAT THING! IT IS HIDEOUS!”

Reporter 3: “Aren’t you going against the freedom of the press by..”

Ermey: “FREEDOM? WHAT IN BLUE HELL DO YOU KNOW ABOUT FREEDOM? I HAVE SWEATED MY ASS OFF IN JUNGLES, WHILE BEING SHOT AT FOR THIS NATION! WHAT IN THE HELL HAVE YOU DONE YOU LITTLE SHIT-SUCKING WEASEL? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU PUT YOUR ASS ON THE LINE FOR ANYTHING? AND YET YOU HAVE THE UNMITIGATED TEMERITY TO SHOW UP HERE AND MONDAY-MORNING QUARTERBACK THE ACTIONS OF A BRAVE MARINE, WHO WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF AND HIS UNIT FROM AN ATTACK BY SOME MURDEROUS AL-QUEDA SYMPATHIZER!! YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT, NUMB-NUTS? I AM CONCERNED ABOUT A BUNCH OF GRABASSTIC, ORGANIZED MORONS WITH CAMERAS AND MICROPHONES DOING THEIR BEST TO PORTRAY OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN AS WAR CRIMINALS! I AM CONCERNED ABOUT CHICKEN-SHIT PANSIES THAT WANT US TO NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS AND WHINE ABOUT THEIR PISS-ANT “FREEDOMS”!!

NEXT QUESTION.

Reporter 3: “I...I..”

Ermey: “DID YOU HAVE A BIG BOWL OF STUPID FOR BREAKFAST THIS MORNING, NUMB NUTS? I DON’T WANT TO HEAR ANOTHER WORD OUT OF THAT COMMIE CRY HOLE IN THAT SHIT-PILE YOU CALL A HEAD! AND THAT GOES TRIPLE FOR THE REST OF YOU PANSY-ASSED MORONS! NOW GET THE HELL OUT OF MY PRESS ROOM BEFORE I SHOVE MY BOOT SO FAR UP YOUR ASS THAT YOU CHOKE TO DEATH ON MY SHOELACES!!!!”


29 posted on 08/27/2011 8:26:52 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: AAABEST
Compared to the elitist liberals people like Peggy Noonan hang out with, any normal man comes across as “too macho”.
30 posted on 08/27/2011 8:28:38 AM PDT by detective
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To: AAABEST

I think she is hot for him


31 posted on 08/27/2011 8:29:14 AM PDT by dila813
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To: MrEdd; All

Mr. Edd....Sir Spamsalot.


32 posted on 08/27/2011 8:29:41 AM PDT by Grunthor (In order; Perry, Palin. None of the rest matter 'til the general)
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To: AAABEST

I guess Perry’s primary flaw is he doesn’t ride girl’s bikes.


33 posted on 08/27/2011 8:30:56 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: AAABEST
Poor, pathetic, Peggy Precious; so wrapped up in her own preciousness, so full of herself and the usual inside the corridor insularity, so divorced from the real world, and so absorbed with the don't rock the boat mentality that has led us to this awful state of affairs of having a completely unqualified, unprepared, incompetent buffoon sitting in the Offal Office [sp. intentional] that she is concerned that Perry's suggestion that further destroying our economy and monetary system by printing more "fiat" currency should be considered "treasonous" might offend someone.

Sadly, Peggy, you have become shadowy parody of the woman you once were during Reagan's Presidency--fading beauty accompanies fading values and ideals, apparently.

Peggy Precious seems to be chasing hard after Maureen Dowd[y] in a race for irrelevance and insignificance.

Poor Peggy, isn't she just sooo very Precious?
34 posted on 08/27/2011 8:31:11 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: AAABEST

That’s a better comparison pic IMO. It shows where their allegiance lies.


35 posted on 08/27/2011 8:31:21 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: AAABEST
That dumasssorryass ersatz conservative Perry sycophant Mark Davis subbed for Rush while he was away...DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH CAMPAIGN COMMERCIALS WOULD COST ON THE RUSH LIMBAUGH SHOW!?! And Texican Perry gets freebies from his paramour Davis on Rush's dime!
If Rush lets him sub again I will lose a lot of respect for him as Rush has always been careful not to endorse any GOP candidate against another—yet he let a Perrysite like Davis do it ON HIS SHOW!!!
Anyway,so as not to go off subject,the dumassorryass ersatz conservative Davis referenced the Noonan column to again kiss Perry's already bussed bruised by liberals and RINOs butt.
36 posted on 08/27/2011 8:32:43 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/4/2008: The day America elected a pyromaniac in the middle of a fire storm.")
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To: SandRat
•Trustworthy, •Loyal, •Helpful, •Friendly, •Courteous, •Kind, •Obedient, •Cheerful, •Thrifty, •Brave, •Clean, •and Reverent.

It's his masculinity that scares her. She prefers girly-boys.

37 posted on 08/27/2011 8:32:44 AM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: AAABEST
And yet, here's the schizophrenic Peggy Noonan back on October 12, 2001 praising manliness, the kind of masculinity that she apparently doesn't admire so much any more.

It is not only that God is back, but that men are back. A certain style of manliness is once again being honored and celebrated in our country since Sept. 11. You might say it suddenly emerged from the rubble of the past quarter century, and emerged when a certain kind of man came forth to get our great country out of the fix it was in.

I am speaking of masculine men, men who push things and pull things and haul things and build things, men who charge up the stairs in a hundred pounds of gear and tell everyone else where to go to be safe. Men who are welders, who do construction, men who are cops and firemen. They are all of them, one way or another, the men who put the fire out, the men who are digging the rubble out, and the men who will build whatever takes its place.

And their style is back in style. We are experiencing a new respect for their old-fashioned masculinity, a new respect for physical courage, for strength and for the willingness to use both for the good of others.

Welcome Back, Duke

38 posted on 08/27/2011 8:34:47 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: AAABEST

We need MORE real men like Perry.


39 posted on 08/27/2011 8:36:16 AM PDT by cubreporter (From TEA to Shining TEA - Go Rush Limbaugh..a giant of all that is good.)
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To: AAABEST
Metrosexuals need not apply.
40 posted on 08/27/2011 8:36:51 AM PDT by MNnice (Showing fresh signs of liberalitis, the strain of the orbital muscles due to excessive eye rolling)
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To: AAABEST

LIBERALS don’t like “Macho Men”.....and Peggy, you’ve just proved your bona fides as a LIBERAL.


41 posted on 08/27/2011 8:38:45 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: ClearCase_guy

Once upon a time she was regarded as a communications expert of sorts but since the ‘08 election she has sounded like the lost 5th member of the Sex & The City cast, pining for an ideal man who doesn’t exist.


42 posted on 08/27/2011 8:39:38 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Notice how the cartoon compares Perry to Romney and not Obama
43 posted on 08/27/2011 8:39:59 AM PDT by MNnice (Showing fresh signs of liberalitis, the strain of the orbital muscles due to excessive eye rolling)
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To: Chuzzlewit

It’s just ironic that Noonan wrote this article. Evidently she didn’t do much research or she would’ve found out that Rick Perry was a cheerleader at A&M, not your ordinary football jock. If you’re going to prattle on about somebody, you’d think one might do a little research.

The reason I can speak about true sons of the soil is that I was raised in a family of them just like Rick Perry. His background is exactly like ours. They have the ability to be aggressive and will set you on your behind with direct speaking when the fight is on, but most of the time they are just gentle giants that can be a little intimidating to those not used to the ‘type’. Rick Perry is the real deal, not a Connecticut implant. He’s going to speak directly, he’s not going to pander to little sensitivities, and he’s going to talk like a Texan, not a smarmy smoothe NEastern Ivy leaguer. The elitists are just going to HATE that.


44 posted on 08/27/2011 8:42:37 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Happy Rain
I read your post 3 times - something about you being upset with Rush's stand-in for being sympathetic to Perry?

Is your first language hyroglifics?

45 posted on 08/27/2011 8:43:00 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: cubreporter
Real CONSERVATIVE men don't order 12 year old girls to suffer (opting out being a bureaucratic nightmare) 3 painful government hypodermic injections or give illegal aliens the gift of in state benefits—or say they are just FINE with homosexual marriage in NY..
46 posted on 08/27/2011 8:44:03 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/4/2008: The day America elected a pyromaniac in the middle of a fire storm.")
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To: Matchett-PI

Thanks! Loved it!


47 posted on 08/27/2011 8:44:17 AM PDT by lahargis
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To: Grunthor

Well and if you look back in his history, he wanted a ticket headed by KARL ROVE in 2008... says a lot...


48 posted on 08/27/2011 8:47:18 AM PDT by lahargis
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To: AAABEST
Truth telling to you is hyroglifics? (hieroglyphics?)
Perhaps you need a Rosetta Stone to translate my words so as to be understandable to the obtuse.
49 posted on 08/27/2011 8:48:18 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("11/4/2008: The day America elected a pyromaniac in the middle of a fire storm.")
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To: Matchett-PI

That is too funny! Would’nt he make a great Press Secretary?


50 posted on 08/27/2011 8:49:40 AM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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