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Man sues hospital trust over resuscitation policy
BBC News ^ | 08/27/2011 | Uncredited

Posted on 08/27/2011 12:50:13 PM PDT by EnglishCon

A man is suing a hospital trust over his claims doctors put "do not resuscitate" orders on his wife's medical notes without her consent.

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A Department of Health spokeswoman said: "Decisions on Do Not Attempt Cardio-Pulmonary Resuscitation must be clinically appropriate for the individual involved, weighing up the possible benefits of CPR against any burdens or risks associated with the treatment."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: choice
To me this shows the fundamental flaws in the Left's thinking. Choice is OK, as long as it is convenient, and it seems a nice foreshadowing of the death panels people keep talking about!

Now, I am not arguing against DNR orders, if they come from the patient. I know it is not a popular idea for some on here, but, while no one should have the right to decide on death for another, a person should have the right to decide if they wish to die in this situation. If my hospital had done this, I simply would not have been here, as I died three times on the operating table. Fortunately my surgeon respected my wishes.

Thoughts and comments? And please add any appropriate keywords - I am still learning that system!

1 posted on 08/27/2011 12:50:15 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: EnglishCon

I think it’s horrible but please let me say that I’m glad *you* survived the “healthcare system”!


2 posted on 08/27/2011 12:53:54 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: EnglishCon

Not really a surprise is it? Aren’t some countries over in EUSSR pretty much offing old and sick people and calling it “assisted suicide” or something?


3 posted on 08/27/2011 12:56:55 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: EnglishCon
Mr Tracey claimed doctors cancelled the first "do not resuscitate" order after his wife - who worked as a care home manager - objected to it, only to then put on a second one without her consent or any discussion.

But don't you DARE call it a DEATH PANEL.

4 posted on 08/27/2011 12:58:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: GeronL

Assisted suicide exists in Holland and I think Belgium for those who want it and can pay for it. Most people do not, but the option is there. I disapprove, very strongly, but I don’t have to live in the bodies and minds of the people who do want it.

This is far worse. Going against the direct, stated wishes of the patient (in either direction, and assuming the patient is in full possession of their faculties), to me, is not just a crime, but a sin and directly contrary to both the Hippocratic Oath and God’s law.


5 posted on 08/27/2011 1:10:22 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: EnglishCon

No I meant, euthanasia as “assisted suicide” without the patients consent.


6 posted on 08/27/2011 1:12:03 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

Not going to say it doesn’t happen. It does, throughout many European countries.
It is murder, pure and simple. The worst offenders are not the hospitals, but rather the care homes for the elderly. There they kill people with neglect, then get a slap on the wrist fine for it. Just from the cases I remember, apparently the value of a human life is about $25000.


7 posted on 08/27/2011 1:17:06 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: EnglishCon

Coming soon to a hosptial chart near you.


8 posted on 08/27/2011 1:19:22 PM PDT by bgill (just getting tagline ready for 6 months after you vote in Perry - Tried to warn you he's a RINO.)
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To: EnglishCon
After the slip-fall off the side of a mountain during a blizzard, busted and removed spleen, left kidney, 4 broken ribs, one fractured vert, 17 units of blood while I was bleeding out...... yeah, it sucked to be me that day...

I woke up with a tube or 3 down my neck and wrists tied to the bed. And when they came to clean me up, I had DNR written on my chest.

Doc explained that they had gotten in touch with my daughter. Her instructions were to 'save him whole, or let him go, I'm not changing diapers on my daddy'

K. I have no problem with DNRs. Even when they write it on my chest, as long as it's what I want and my family wants.

/johnny

9 posted on 08/27/2011 1:22:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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My thoughts exactly.

We discuss this as a family. What is and is not acceptable.


10 posted on 08/27/2011 1:53:37 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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By the second year of Obamacare, we will have this here. The people who foisted Obamacare on us are leading proponents of the “Culture of Death.”


11 posted on 08/27/2011 2:53:00 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: EnglishCon
A Department of Health spokeswoman said: "Decisions on Do Not Attempt Cardio-Pulmonary Resuscitation must be clinically appropriate for the individual involved, weighing up the possible benefits of CPR against any burdens or risks associated with the treatment."

What part of "clinically appropriate" does NOT include explicit patient permission?

I'm just asking because I don't see that little tiny item anywhere in the official spokeswoman's statement.

And without it, how is this different from murder?

12 posted on 08/27/2011 3:44:08 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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Her instructions were to 'save him whole, or let him go, I'm not changing diapers on my daddy'

Death before diapers?

I guess people have different definitions of love.

13 posted on 08/27/2011 3:46:21 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To my mind, it is not. A doctor has the duty to fight to save your life. Unless you tell him not to.
14 posted on 08/27/2011 4:01:53 PM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: Talisker
She's got 3 little ones in diapers. We've had lot of good years together. Not wanting to deal with her dad, mentally damaged, is ok with me. Lots of love there, but a line on what works and what doesn't.

And I did stay there after 2 weeks in ICU. Had to have help to sit or stand or go to the bathroom. My brother picked me up and took me home with him. Much less embarassing to yell for help out of the bathtub to him than my daughter or her hubby.

I'm happy with the amount of love in the family.

/johnny

15 posted on 08/27/2011 5:00:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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