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Georgia GOP votes for native son Herman Cain
Politico ^ | 8/27/11 | Alexander Burns

Posted on 08/27/2011 3:03:18 PM PDT by justsaynomore

Two Georgia pols went in; one came out a winner at the state GOP’s presidential straw poll Saturday. Herman Cain, formerly an Atlanta talk radio host, took 26 percent of the vote to nab the first-place spot.

Newt Gingrich, who represented Georgia in Congress for nearly two decades, finished fourth with 18 percent of the vote. Continue Reading

In between were second-place candidate Ron Paul, who fell less than 1 point short of Cain’s total, and Rick Perry, who drew 20 percent.

The full standings, from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Jim Galloway, who notes the lack of enthusiasm for Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann:

– Herman Cain, 232 or 26 percent; – Ron Paul, 229 or 25.7 percent; – Rick Perry, 179 or 20 percent; – Newt Gingrich, 162 or 18 percent; – Mitt Romney, 51 or 6 percent; – Michele Bachman, 29 or 3 percent; – Rick Santorum, 4 or .4 percent – Jon Huntsman, 3 or .3 percent; – Thad McCotter, 1 or .1 percent; – Buddy Roemer, 0; – Gary Johnson, 0

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62188.html#ixzz1WGjmY9KR


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: cain2012; election; gagop; hermancain; strawpoll

1 posted on 08/27/2011 3:03:25 PM PDT by justsaynomore
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To: K-oneTexas; Tucker822; Kartographer; freekitty; carmody; Dead Corpse; MsLady; Publius772000; ...

Pinganator! Herman Cain wasn’t there - he is flying back from Israel this weekend, but the turnout was great! It was good to meet a lot of FReepers there :-)


2 posted on 08/27/2011 3:04:37 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: justsaynomore
Is Cain following the Ron Paul playbook? Or was this a legitimate victory?

I like Herman Cain. I think he'll be the second black man I've voted for in a Presidential Primary. And don't worry, the first was in the 2000 Republican presidential primary.

3 posted on 08/27/2011 3:06:55 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: cc2k

I’m not sure what the Ron Paul playbook is, but I felt like saw at least 100 people with Herman Cain buttons, t-shirts, stickers and talked to many of them. I saw dozens that I knew from Facebook and Free Republic. His table was hopping and there was a lot of enthusiasm there. Ron Paul had a lot of people there too, but a pretty different, and much younger, crowd.

Herman supporters were mostly white, middle-aged families.

Granted, Cain staff chartered a bus of supporters from north of the Perimeter, but many like my family, drove down.


4 posted on 08/27/2011 3:14:14 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: justsaynomore

When I say “chartered a bus” - Cain’s staff didn’t pay for the bus, people bought tickets for it.


5 posted on 08/27/2011 3:18:18 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: cc2k

Cain is genuinely popular with the Georgia GOP. He gave a whale of a good speech at our state convention. I think Cain does well here simply because most people know who he is and understand what he stands for.


6 posted on 08/27/2011 3:19:28 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

I agree, this is not a surprise at all considering he won the Fulton GOP, Cobb GOP, Cherokee GOP and several others.


7 posted on 08/27/2011 3:26:03 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: justsaynomore; MNJohnnie
justsaynomore wrote:
I’m not sure what the Ron Paul playbook is ....
<snip> Granted, Cain staff chartered a bus of supporters from north of the Perimeter, but many like my family, drove down.
The bus is part of the Ron Paul playbook. The Paul camp tends to charter busses, pay for admission and any "contribution" required to vote, and generally buy the entire result.

Because of this, Ron Paul wins a lot of straw polls like this. But his support in the straw polls represents every person in the state who will vote for him in any election. It doesn't represent his potential strength among the general public.

MNJohnnie wrote:
Cain is genuinely popular with the Georgia GOP. He gave a whale of a good speech at our state convention. I think Cain does well here simply because most people know who he is and understand what he stands for.
I do think he has better name recognition in the Atlanta area than he does nationally.

Also, being a FairTax proponent in Neil Boortz's back yard helps a lot.

8 posted on 08/27/2011 3:31:45 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: MNJohnnie

We heard Herman Cain speak here in Oregon a few weeks ago. He’s definitely terrific, & I think if most people could see him in person they would be equally impressed.

I hope whoever gets the nomination draws in all of our candidates to run as a team & gives them a spot in the next administration. They all of strengths & weaknesses, but it would be a good way to unify the Republicans who are just all over the place this year with no clear leader.


9 posted on 08/27/2011 3:37:12 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: cc2k

I explained in my post after that, Cain did not PAY for the bus, people bought tickets for the bus - cost between $20 and $50 and included bus fare and ticket. A volunteer arranged the bus is all. Only about 30 folks even went on the bus.

That is completely different than buying votes, it is just glorified carpooling with everyone pitching in.


10 posted on 08/27/2011 3:45:46 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: cc2k

Herman Cain is running between 46 - 57% name recognition nationwide. But he has been at the top of the Gallup positive intensity poll for 13 of the last 14 weeks.

It doesn’t help that the media has their darlings and pooh-pooh everyone else.


11 posted on 08/27/2011 3:48:59 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Herman Cain 2012 - http://www.arealleader.com)
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To: cc2k
Is Cain following the Ron Paul playbook? Or was this a legitimate victory?

Get real. ALL the candidates do whatever they can that's legal to win -- and ALL the losers bitch about it claiming "it's unfair and illegitimate because he or she bought votes". Ron Paul supporters were also griping that "Bachmann only won in Iowa because she had a Randy Travis concert at her booth". It's just the way that these straw polls work.

It does say something that Ron Paul was only 3 votes behind Cain in Cain's home State and #3 Perry was 50 votes behind him.

12 posted on 08/27/2011 4:08:22 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: justsaynomore

Palin/Cain 2012!


13 posted on 08/27/2011 4:09:02 PM PDT by bgill (just getting tagline ready for 6 months after you vote in Perry - Tried to warn you he's a RINO.)
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To: bgill

Palin/Cain 2012!

One gives pain the other raises cain !!!


14 posted on 08/27/2011 4:39:08 PM PDT by ak267
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To: justsaynomore

Southern folks don’t need Mitt around anyhow.


15 posted on 08/27/2011 4:42:01 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: justsaynomore

Glad Cain is getting some support...I hate it that the LSM is not giving him a chance to get his name out there more...

He’d make a terrific president.

Just give us a conservative candidate the we can unite behind....Cain, Bachmann, Perry, Palin any true conservative...but please no Ron Paul (progressive libertarian) or Romney (progressive RINO). I don’t want to have to gag when I cast my vote.


16 posted on 08/27/2011 4:46:40 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: justsaynomore; kingattax; DarthVader

ping


17 posted on 08/27/2011 5:01:18 PM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: justsaynomore

bump.


18 posted on 08/27/2011 5:16:08 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Bokababe
OK. I'll admit it. "Legitimate" was a poor word to choose there.

Ron Paul gets the best legitimate results that money can buy.

My question was more whether this result for Cain indicated widespread popular support, or just an exercise in campaign spending to "buy" a good finish.

For someone who doesn't raise that much money, Ron Paul spends a whole lot on these straw polls. Just my observation.

19 posted on 08/27/2011 5:40:40 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: justsaynomore

Paul brings in supporters from outside the area. In 2007, he swamped the Cobb County GOP Picnic with people from outside of Cobb County.


20 posted on 08/27/2011 5:43:43 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("President Fox's vision for an open border is a vision I embrace"- Rick Perry)
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To: MNJohnnie
I think Cain does well here simply because most people know who he is and understand what he stands for.

I agree with everything you say, but how did an anti-American like cut and run do so well? I did not make it but did he (the surrender monkey) bus them in from Chattanooga?
21 posted on 08/27/2011 6:43:05 PM PDT by John D
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To: justsaynomore
It doesn’t help that the media has their darlings and pooh-pooh everyone else.

And cut and run is the media darling. If for some unforeseen reason the surrender monkey would win the nomination the liberals would win no matter how the outcome.
22 posted on 08/27/2011 7:05:39 PM PDT by John D
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To: cc2k
Ron Paul spends a whole lot on these straw polls.

That is where he spends all of his money. Bus tickets and event fees. Only freeloading anti-Americans would vote for the surrender monkey. He came in second in Iowa because he ran out of dope and his supporters lost interest and forgot to vote. I am not sure what happened here.
23 posted on 08/27/2011 7:13:39 PM PDT by John D
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To: cc2k

Georgia voters hear Neal Boortz supporting Herman Cain on a daily basis. There’s a strong cadre of Cain support there, as Herman has been a sub for Boortz and friend of Boortz for years.


24 posted on 08/27/2011 10:12:26 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Rick Perry sweep the polls? Naw, the illegals he's coddled in Texas do all his sweeping.)
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To: RowdyFFC

“but please no Ron Paul (progressive libertarian) or Romney (progressive RINO). I don’t want to have to gag when I cast my vote.”

Amen to that. RP in particular needs to go away. After we defeat BHO with a VIABLE candidate, put him in charge of the Treasury or, even more fun, the Federal Reserve. But on anything else, especially foreign policy (which is critical in the world we face today), he’s dangerous to our health.


25 posted on 08/27/2011 10:38:34 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: Politicalmom

“Paul brings in supporters from outside the area.”

That’s a fact. His kids had countless “meet-ups” all over the country to do marathon fundraising to meet various deadlines. One Sunday back in ‘08 I was driving through the Plaza (a nationwide tourist attraction area here in KC) and they were swarming it with signs and stopping traffic.


26 posted on 08/27/2011 10:44:49 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: llandres

Since Rick Perry just like Bachmann, Cain, or Palin are very viable conservative candidates any one of which I will be perfectly happy to support.

Now you can trash my governor with your democratic bucket of horse manure all you want. But I know the facts...and I am going to support him.


27 posted on 08/27/2011 11:48:57 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: justsaynomore

I thought Newt lived in Great Falls, Va (I am being funny)


28 posted on 08/28/2011 2:13:19 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: cc2k
"For someone who doesn't raise that much money, Ron Paul spends a whole lot on these straw polls. Just my observation."

Ron Paul has been raising a lot of money --virtually all it from individual donors rather than corporations -- but he's been doing it almost every month, rather than going for the big one time donations. He just raised $2M from ordinary folks on his birthday. And he's raised more money from active duty military than all the other Republican candidates, combined. (As one friend put it, "It's because the military are pro-life -- their own")

Paul has an incredibly dedicated following that will do whatever they possibly can for him, including drive long distances in order to be able to support him in these straw polls. I wouldn't assume that he's bought his votes, because he doesn't need to.

Plus, Ron Paul has Doug Wead as his political strategist. Wead was campaign adviser to both Bushes, and is the guy who came up with the term "compassionate conservative". Wead wouldn't get involved if it wasn't to win.

This isn't the 2008 election with the Ron Paul campaign run by amateurs. This is a professional campaign. The corporate owned media may want to muzzle Paul because they don't want their privileged positions shaken up, but they aren't doing a very good job of it when even John Stewart can make them look like jackasses.

The Republican Party has both an opportunity and a problem with the Ron Paul supporters. The opportunity is that like Reagan, they have people willing to vote for him who wouldn't vote for another Republican. The problem is that if Ron Paul is not the ultimate Republican presidential candidate, their loyalty is to Ron Paul, not necessarily to the Party -- and they are sizable enough a group to be the difference between an Obama or a Republican win. The more that guys like Limbaugh try to humiliate & dismiss Ron Paul & his supporters, the less likely they are to get them as Republican voters in the general election -- and make no mistake about it, it IS going to be a close race between Obama and whoever.

Love him or hate him, Ron Paul is a force to be reckoned with this time around. His supporters aren't just a handful of dope smoking hippies anymore.

29 posted on 08/28/2011 3:30:18 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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