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Seeing Irene as Harbinger of a Change in Climate
New York Times ^ | August 28, 2011 | Justin Gillis

Posted on 08/28/2011 5:53:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble

The scale of Hurricane Irene, which could cause more extensive damage along the Eastern Seaboard than any storm in decades, is reviving an old question: are hurricanes getting worse because of human-induced climate change?

The short answer from scientists is that they are still trying to figure it out. But many of them do believe that hurricanes will get more intense as the planet warms, and they see large hurricanes like Irene as a harbinger....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; climate; fakebutaccurate; pseudoscience
I'm not even posting a serious excerpt. This is the single most disgraceful thing I've seen in the NY Slimes in a long time (and the competition is fierce).

I grew up in NY in the 50s and 60s, when there were MANY serious hurricanes, which reshaped the South Shore more than once. Both in 1821 and in 1938, there was catastrophic loss of life in NYC from hurricanes.

I suppose no lie is too big, any more.

1 posted on 08/28/2011 5:53:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
This is the single most disgraceful thing I've seen in the NY Slimes...

Agreed. I just read the first few lines of this article over at Drudge...and had to stop. I just wanted to go back to bed, cover my head with a pillow, and pray that the world just could not be getting this d@mn silly...sigh...

But then, I guess Heir Leader needs a "catastropic" event to show his courage and intelligence. The LSM will march in lockstep to paint that type of picture for him.

3 posted on 08/28/2011 6:04:29 AM PDT by moovova (Anybody missed O while he's been on vacation? O who?)
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To: Jim Noble

Reviving another old question: Can the NY Slimes possibly get any worse?


4 posted on 08/28/2011 6:04:49 AM PDT by synbad600
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To: Jim Noble

I lived in Queens in 1960 and remember teenagers paddling telephone poles down the street in the aftermath.

Please STFU, idiots.


5 posted on 08/28/2011 6:05:33 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Jim Noble

One only has to look up historic hurricanes to see just how silly the Times article is.


6 posted on 08/28/2011 6:05:58 AM PDT by AZhardliner
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To: synbad600

It’s the end of the world! New York got a rain storm!


7 posted on 08/28/2011 6:06:37 AM PDT by Rodm
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To: Jim Noble
They probably had a draft of this, just waiting to be able to plug in the storm name and other last minute details, for quite some time.

Once the global warming hoax is totally debunked, whatever last thread of credibility they may have had will be shot.

Maybe that's why they keep doubling down on it when they can't help but know they are wrong.

8 posted on 08/28/2011 6:07:35 AM PDT by capt. norm (Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never run out of material. c)
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To: Rodm

My thoughts exactly.


9 posted on 08/28/2011 6:09:12 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Jim Noble

Every big storm is blamed on climate change anymore, even though real scientists and meteorologists counter these claims with the truth, year after year. It’s downright tiresome.


10 posted on 08/28/2011 6:09:46 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Jim Noble

“I suppose no lie is too big, any more”

Liberals don’t care anymore whether they lie or not. They have no sense of shame or ethics. Lots of money riding on the globull warming mythology.


11 posted on 08/28/2011 6:10:18 AM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: capt. norm
They probably had a draft of this, just waiting to be able to plug in the storm name and other last minute details, for quite some time.

BINGO!!

Prolly the same as the obits they keep on hand of famous people.

12 posted on 08/28/2011 6:13:00 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Jim Noble
the harbinger card has been played.
13 posted on 08/28/2011 6:13:05 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Jim Noble

14 posted on 08/28/2011 6:13:19 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Jim Noble
I suppose no lie is too big, any more.

A global village requires global-sized lies.

15 posted on 08/28/2011 6:13:48 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Jim Noble

You never want a good crisis to go to waste.


16 posted on 08/28/2011 6:15:46 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Jim Noble

Yup. But not chance it could have blown Sodom on the Potomac into the Atlantic though. If only . . . . . . . .


17 posted on 08/28/2011 6:16:46 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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To: Jim Noble
While the number of the most intense storms has clearly been rising since the 1970s

This statement is an outright lie. I had heard some liberal on a talk show 10 years ago say the same thing, so I went to the National Hurricane Center's archives and looked at the numbers and intensities of Hurricanes going back 150 years, buy decade. I did this in 2005, so my data only goes through 2004, but still, it's clear there has been no great increase in number or intensity "since the 1970s." That is flat out not true. (Oh and the IPCC had originally made the same claim in earlier reports).

18 posted on 08/28/2011 6:18:56 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: AZhardliner

lrene was a horribly damaging storm here in NC and we are all very, very thankful it wasn’t a CAT3. BUT it wasn’t historic in the power, just the length and how much rain we received.
The Times needs to do some research, some things are just laughable.


19 posted on 08/28/2011 6:20:17 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: Jim Noble
The short answer from scientists is that they are still trying to figure it out.

But, but, I thought they were all in complete consensus!

20 posted on 08/28/2011 6:24:40 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Jim Noble
All the news that's fit to print."

I have to laugh every time I see those TV ads for the NYT Weekender. To me, the NYT no longer is a paper with "award winning journalists" but rather represents an unnecessary denuding of the nation's forests.

21 posted on 08/28/2011 6:24:48 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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To: Jim Noble

This only makes the Tomes look preposterous.


22 posted on 08/28/2011 6:25:17 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Loyal Buckeye

OMG! And this person is given the right to vote? God save the Republic.

23 posted on 08/28/2011 6:27:25 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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To: Jim Noble

Just remember - most journalists know little about anything except the mechanics of story writing (and apparently quite a few didn’t study hard enough to learn that either). Reading anything a journalist writes, other than those things that are pure reporting, is like listening to your grandmother talk about ‘string theory’.


24 posted on 08/28/2011 6:28:41 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: myrabach

“The Times needs to do some research, some things are just laughable.”
___________________________________

You miss the point.
The Slimes is not interested in truth.
Their motto is “Never let facts or truth get in the way of
the Marxist conquest.”


25 posted on 08/28/2011 6:31:22 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Jim Noble

These junk science idiots equate weather to water heating in a pot - the more heat, the more the water moves. Real scientists, who paid attention in fifth grade, know that is nonsense. The phenomenon known as ‘weather’ is caused by differentials in pressure and temperature. Meaning that, if the poles are warming up quicker than the equator (according to these idiots), we should get fewer and less intense weather events.


26 posted on 08/28/2011 6:32:22 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: capt. norm

They have probably had this story waiting for several years. Irene is the first hurricane to make landfall on the North American continent since 2008. Yeah, that climate change is sure playing havoc with the weather.


27 posted on 08/28/2011 6:49:54 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Jim Noble

Wasn’t there a big hurricane there during WW2. I remember seening pictures of the destruction along the New Jersey shore.


28 posted on 08/28/2011 6:54:56 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Proud2BeRight

Yes. 1944.


29 posted on 08/28/2011 6:55:20 AM PDT by Publius
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To: lacrew
These globull warming idiots are too stupid to realize the basic principle that atmospheric instability comes from cooler temps aloft, not warmer.....
30 posted on 08/28/2011 7:01:56 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: Jim Noble

To the Slimes, history is the time between the last joint.


31 posted on 08/28/2011 7:11:20 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (I'll follow an eloquent Allen West out of hell.)
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To: Jim Noble

32 posted on 08/28/2011 7:13:06 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: AZhardliner
One only has to look up historic hurricanes to see just how silly the Times article is.

One only has to see the article is from the Slimes to see just how silly any article is.

Probably the worst hurricane I remember that I was in was Agnes in the early 1970s.

Hurricane Bob was the most annoying, since a falling tree broke the support wire for my power lines, yanking meter and conduit away from the house. We still had power, via the fallen lines, for a couple of days, but it did cost a couple of hundred to have the meter/conduit fixed, but the power company wouldn't have fixed the service, otherwise.

33 posted on 08/28/2011 7:16:49 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Jim Noble

IT WAS A CAT 1, BARELY EVEN A HURRICANE!!! How does that indicate increasing hurricane strength?

Liberalism IS a mental illness!!!


34 posted on 08/28/2011 7:21:34 AM PDT by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: Jim Noble
But many of them do believe that hurricanes will get more intense as the planet warms

The presupposition that climate change is HUMAN induced is the very thing that's disgraceful. Whether or not the climate is changing is never the question. The climate is always changing. It is seasonal; not only during a single year but also along the lines of decades, centuries, millenia and so forth. Changes in sun spot frequency, and less frequently the orbit of the earth around the sun, are just two of many physical reasons that the earth's climate changes. We have no control over it. And it is not human induced.

Disingenuous seudo-scientists like AL Gore, are more interested in pushing their agenda than seeking and presenting the truth. And I condemn any and all of the scientists, as frauds, who sit and follow suite with Al Gore and those of his ilk. But by far, the worst of all, are the reporters, writers and so-called journalists who spew this propaganda.

35 posted on 08/28/2011 7:28:00 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Jim Noble

“Hurricane” Irene may not become much of a concern to those in the Northeast; however, there is one distinction this storm will undoubtedly earn - that is, it is by far the most hyped rain storm in the past fifty years.


36 posted on 08/28/2011 7:53:28 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jim Noble

You forgot the Barf Alert in the title.


37 posted on 08/28/2011 8:01:05 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Jim Noble
We knew it wouldn't take long for the nutcases to start blaming Irene on

GLOOOOBALLL WARRRRRRRMING!!!

:

"REPENT!
THE END OF THE WORLD IS UPON US!"

38 posted on 08/28/2011 8:01:37 AM PDT by Savage Beast (IF THE ECONOMY FAILS--EVERYTHING FAILS!!!!!)
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Yes, I see the connection now. It’s not just Republicans who are directly at fault, it’s the tax code.

She doesn’t even realize how stupid she sounds, which is the only redeeming quality she has.


39 posted on 08/28/2011 8:16:01 AM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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To: Jim Noble
There are an average of about 100 tropical cyclones (Tropical Storms, Hurricanes, Typhoons, Tropical Cyclones) every year. That number has not significantly wavered since accurate records have been kept.


40 posted on 08/28/2011 8:32:33 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: GodfearingTexan

I would really love to hear the chain of reasoning that lead this dingbat to the conclusions she drawn. It’s got to be better than the Drunk Random Walk Hypothesis.


41 posted on 08/28/2011 9:32:58 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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To: Jim Noble

Maybe it is a “harbinger” of the global warming alarmists. Hyped up beyond all possibility, and fizzles to normality in actuality.


42 posted on 08/28/2011 9:38:14 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Seeing Irene as Harbinger of a Change in Climate

And the beat goes on...

The modern "chicken entrails and bones" contingent will simply refuse to go back into their caves.

These modern idiots get press way out of proportion to their contribution to homo sapiens.

These retards can't even google "worst hurricanes in history," and just read about the ones prior to 1920. If that isn't enough to cause them to slink back into "ignorance is bliss" there's no hope for them.

I know they think they are the center of the universe, but Climate Change has been a natural process for hundreds of thousands of years. They should just go back to their dope-induced paranoia.

43 posted on 08/28/2011 1:27:33 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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