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Scientists question Perry's unusual stem cell back treatment
AAS ^ | 8.28.2011 | Marilynn Marchione

Posted on 08/28/2011 1:18:15 PM PDT by wolfcreek

He calls it innovative. Some scientists call it a big risk. In any case, the stem cell procedure that Gov. Rick Perry had last month was an unusual experiment to fix a common malady: a bad back.

Perry has access to the best possible care and advice. Yet he and his doctor chose a treatment beyond mainstream medicine: He had stem cells taken from fat in his own body, grown in a lab and then injected into his back and his bloodstream July 1 to fuse part of his spine.

The treatment carries potential risks ranging from blood clots to infection to cancer and might even run afoul of federal rules, doctors say. At least one patient died of a clot hours after an infusion of fat-derived stem cells outside the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: healthcare; perry; rickperry; stemcells
What won't we do to treat a bad back?
1 posted on 08/28/2011 1:18:16 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: wolfcreek

Oh my achin’ back! Backs can be agony.

I hope it helped.


2 posted on 08/28/2011 1:20:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: wolfcreek
Hmmm, it's not embryonic stem cells is it?

That's the problem.

3 posted on 08/28/2011 1:21:03 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: wolfcreek
At least one patient died of a clot hours after an infusion of fat-derived stem cells outside the United States.

Someone with a bad back won't be very active. This alone raises the risk of blood clots.

Funny how they're only funny about stem cells when it didn't involve ripping apart an unborn child.

4 posted on 08/28/2011 1:21:21 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!! Laz for President!)
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To: wolfcreek

Wow! I guess had it been a fetal stem cell, all would be ok. Of the things that you could potentially criticize Perry for, why this? It’s HIS body, HIS stem cells.


5 posted on 08/28/2011 1:22:22 PM PDT by jamndad5 ("I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.")
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To: wolfcreek

They are upset because he didn’t use stem cells from aborted babies.


6 posted on 08/28/2011 1:23:04 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Paladin2

Yep, can’t have that.


7 posted on 08/28/2011 1:23:21 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Rabid democRATS and 0bama the dictator own it all now.)
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To: wolfcreek
The quack are pissed because it wasn't embryonic stem cells.


8 posted on 08/28/2011 1:24:11 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: wolfcreek
The treatment carries potential risks ranging from blood clots to infection to cancer and might even run afoul of federal rules, doctors say.

And that, in a nutshell, is why we need someone LIKE Rick Perry to win the Presidency. Here we have a doctor and a patient agreeing on a treatment. The treatment involves nobody else, poses no risk to anybody but the patient, is done with the patient's OWN cells. And yet it might "run afoul of federal rules", like the federal government has some right to tell a person what medical treatment they can get.

We need someone who makes the federal government irrelevant in our lives, and frees us up to do even stupid medical treatments if we know the risks.

9 posted on 08/28/2011 1:24:26 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mnehring

They would have proclaimed him as some kind of secular saint and a brave man if that had been the case.


10 posted on 08/28/2011 1:24:50 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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To: Paladin2

It said it’s his own stem cells.


11 posted on 08/28/2011 1:25:37 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: TribalPrincess2U

LOL, it’s funny that I was in before the onslaught of similar observation.


12 posted on 08/28/2011 1:26:34 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Grizzled Bear

Just saw Perry last night. He looked fine. He was walking naturally.


13 posted on 08/28/2011 1:27:24 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Actually, I was recently helped by self administered “anti-gravity boots” treatments at a local park’s PAR course inclined plane structure. And self-restricted lifting. And Time.


14 posted on 08/28/2011 1:29:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Right On!!!


15 posted on 08/28/2011 1:30:10 PM PDT by Keen-Minded
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To: wolfcreek

So whats the question? What is it that the priests of the new church of science want to know?

Why did you use your own stem cells? Mr. Perry is guilty of letting unborn baby stem cells sit idle. We can’t let that continue. He must be brought before the tribunal of the committee of public virtue.


16 posted on 08/28/2011 1:33:32 PM PDT by barstoolblues (Notes from the Hobbitt hole. By Hezbollah Hobbitt.)
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To: Paladin2

First thing I thought when I read the article this morning (before posting it)


17 posted on 08/28/2011 1:37:59 PM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: wolfcreek

If we were taking about John F. Kerry using embryonic stem cells, those same critics would herald this as a great breakthrough.


18 posted on 08/28/2011 1:38:10 PM PDT by wmileo
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To: barstoolblues

Who Cares? If Barry had lung cancer from smoking, now there’s a story.


19 posted on 08/28/2011 1:43:21 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: Paladin2
AFAIK, there have been zero successful treatments, based on embryonic stem cells. Umbilical cord and adult* (which this was) stem cells are showing lots of promise.

(*adult = from your own body)

20 posted on 08/28/2011 1:44:21 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: wolfcreek
What won't we do to treat a bad back attack a Republican Candidate?
21 posted on 08/28/2011 1:45:29 PM PDT by papasmurf (0bama...just doing the job Americans won't do.)
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To: wolfcreek
Some scientists call it a big risk

I call it NOYDB!

22 posted on 08/28/2011 1:46:14 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (Nothing astonishes people so much as common sense and plain dealing.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

No rejection or autoimmune response from your own.


23 posted on 08/28/2011 1:47:12 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (Stupid should hurt.)
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To: wolfcreek

My back doctor has talked to me about this being a great future treatment.


24 posted on 08/28/2011 1:56:31 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: wolfcreek

LOL. I just read the entire article. Dr. Stanley Jones is my back doctor.


25 posted on 08/28/2011 1:57:36 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: wolfcreek

Oh my God! Is there anything that the MSM and Democrat/socialists won’t do to slime Perry in some manner?

Now, (spread the word) Perry might DIE in office from doing some “unauthorized” and approved treatment certified by the AMA, CDC, Health Service and surgeon General.

Might as well plant the seed of doubt now for it just might deter some voters lacking common sense.


26 posted on 08/28/2011 1:59:30 PM PDT by DH ( Rick Perry 2012...Be proud to be an American once again!)
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To: Paladin2

The guy raising the alarm has an interest in ESC but not ASC.


27 posted on 08/28/2011 2:06:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I’d note that a million years is a long time to consider for a bet against medical research done by humans. This whole ESC thing is similar to CAGW scientific hysteria.


28 posted on 08/28/2011 2:13:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: wolfcreek

I loved Mark Steyn’s comment on the spine operation. He said scientists had achieved a miracle — they’d actually found a Republican candidate who had a spine.


29 posted on 08/28/2011 2:34:29 PM PDT by BfloGuy (In old fashioned language, Keynes proposed cheating the workers.)
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To: wolfcreek

Interesting. The same reporter posted the same story 10 days ago with a different title. Back then “Doctors question” - this week “Scientists question”. She must think she’s really got the big scoop. I wonder who will “question” it next week.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2766280/posts


30 posted on 08/28/2011 2:37:55 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: Paladin2
"Hmmm, it's not embryonic stem cells is it? That's the problem."

You're a piece of work. You make a drive by comment like that even though the article clearly states that the stem cells came from Perry's own body. Then when several FReepers point this out to you you just continue on your merry way as though you didn't say anything that needs either apology or concession.

Pathetic.

31 posted on 08/28/2011 2:42:00 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: Artemis Webb
You need to develop a serious sarcasm detector. I can read articles pretty fast and provide a response. As muawiyah pointed out, the detractors are deeply invested in ESCs.

GMAFB.

32 posted on 08/28/2011 2:49:58 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

As my mother always said, “shows to go ya”.

We here are mostly on the same plane of thought. IMO


33 posted on 08/28/2011 3:01:44 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Rabid democRATS and 0bama the dictator own it all now.)
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To: Paladin2

TBPOYRDYML

Yes child, I can play the acronym game too.


34 posted on 08/28/2011 3:02:06 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: wolfcreek

What a coincidence,

Time to take my Avinza!


35 posted on 08/28/2011 3:02:51 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Stand With Sarah!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

A pioneer in medicine. My hero!

Some people can’t just take a ‘pain pill’ as 0 would want.
My back acts up really bad on occasions but I attribute that
and most pain that travels to RA.


36 posted on 08/28/2011 3:06:00 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Rabid democRATS and 0bama the dictator own it all now.)
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To: Artemis Webb
You're retarded.

See #33.

37 posted on 08/28/2011 3:14:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: wolfcreek

Activist “scientists”? Socialist academic sorts? Is this like all the “scientists” agreeing with man made global warming and it’s UN and carbon market solutions?

Because ethical, professional doctors don’t go around talking like this unless they are in on the patient’s records and treatment data. Even then, they respect the privacy and dignity of their patients.


38 posted on 08/28/2011 7:34:09 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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