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Germany Offers Alarming Statistics on Children
Spiegel Online International ^ | 08/04/2011

Posted on 08/28/2011 2:37:30 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

A child in a Hamburg residential complex: A new report has found that parents in 7 percent of German households can't afford to finance hobbies for their children.

Despite substantial subsidies aimed at increasing the birthrate, the number of children in Germany continues to shrink. A new report by the federal government has found there are 14 percent fewer children under 18 than in 2000 -- and 15 percent of them, alarmingly, live in poverty.

For Germany, the figures are the warning signs of a demographic time bomb in a fast-graying society. The number of children under the age of 18 in Germany sank to 13.1 million in 2010, down 14 percent from 2000, the German Federal Statistical Office reported Wednesday. The drop came despite considerable efforts by the German government to reverse the declining birthrate through subsidies made directly to parents and for their childcare.

As a percentage of the overall population, Germany has fewer children than any other country in Europe. Only 16.5 percent of the population is younger than 18 years of age. In other European countries, like France, Great Britain and the Netherlands, those figures are over 20 percent. In Turkey, almost one-third of the country's population of more than 72 million people is younger than 18. The countries in Europe with the smallest populations of children are Germany, Bulgaria (16.7 percent) and Italy (16.9 percent).

The study, presented in Berlin and based on data from a 2010 micro-census of Germany, also provides other alarming figures related to childhood poverty .

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthrate; children; civilization; parents
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1 posted on 08/28/2011 2:37:34 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

When I was younger, the last thing I thought would happen would be to witness the demise of Western civilization because people would reproduce themselves.


2 posted on 08/28/2011 2:41:43 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: MinorityRepublican

News flash: They’re all really small and their hands are tinny.


3 posted on 08/28/2011 2:41:58 PM PDT by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Can’t afford hobbies? Doesn’t the EUSSR fund midnight basketball? Oh right, all their spending money is going to bailout other countries.


4 posted on 08/28/2011 2:42:30 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: MinorityRepublican

This whole subject is analyzed brilliantly in the book “America Alone” by Mark Steyn.


5 posted on 08/28/2011 2:42:40 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: johniegrad

“would” should be “would not”


6 posted on 08/28/2011 2:42:57 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: MinorityRepublican

Can’t afford hobbies? Doesn’t the EUSSR fund midnight basketball? Oh right, all their spending money is going to bailout other countries.


7 posted on 08/28/2011 2:44:07 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: MinorityRepublican

And how many of those “German” children are really ethnic Germans?


8 posted on 08/28/2011 2:45:41 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: MinorityRepublican

It would be interesting to know what “can’t afford to finance hobbies” means, exactly. Can’t afford a library card so the child can read? Can’t get a pair of shoes so he can run? No pencils and paper so he can draw? How about cooking - they’ve got no flour, stove, or pans?

Or does it mean that there is some specific hobby in which a child might be interested, but the family cannot afford the costs for that activity? Well, duh. We can’t afford rodeo or competitive ice skating for all our children, either.


9 posted on 08/28/2011 2:46:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("True education is not an adjustment to the world, but a defense against the world.")
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To: MinorityRepublican

“...German households can’t afford to finance hobbies for their children...”
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My hobbies as a lad?
Pretending a stick was a gun and playing cowboys and indians.
Making a fort out of hay bales.
Daming up a sandy creek.
Making a house out of a big corrugated box.
Fishing.
Reading.
Baseball in the cow lot.
“Red Light”, “Simon Says”, and “Hide-And Seek”.

None of those things cost any money.


10 posted on 08/28/2011 2:47:32 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Proud to be a (small) monthly donor.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Hobby stamps. Social justice requires that the government hand out hobby stamps to the disadvantaged yoots.


11 posted on 08/28/2011 2:48:40 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: MinorityRepublican

They might not be able to afford hobbies but they can certainly afford that great German bier!!!!!


12 posted on 08/28/2011 2:49:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Stargazing is a pretty cheap hobby. Some star maps and a pair of binoculars.

Drawing needs only some paper and a pencil.

Model rockets?

I’m not exactly sure what these wonder hobbies are that are so out of reach.


13 posted on 08/28/2011 2:50:56 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: GeronL
Can’t afford hobbies? Doesn’t the EUSSR fund midnight basketball? Oh right, all their spending money is going to bailout other countries.

They'll get the TAXPAYERS to fund a new Department -- The Department of youth hobbies.

Midnight basketball?? They got Midnight SOCCER!!

14 posted on 08/28/2011 2:51:50 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Palin/Bachman 2012....What would the NAGS say? :-))
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To: Repeal The 17th

Hobbies are easy! When I was a kid our hobbies were making and flying kites, fishing, camping, catching fireflies etc. None of those hobbies cost any money to speak of.

Then we found a few Playboy magazines and we had a REAL hobby :0...one that you can practice throughout your life!


15 posted on 08/28/2011 2:52:46 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: rbg81

As of 2009, there are 4.3 million Muslims (5.4% of the population).

Of these, 1.9 million are German citizens (2.4%).

Islam is the largest minority religion in Germany.

Here’s a wiki of the list of countries by Muzzy population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Muslim_population


16 posted on 08/28/2011 2:53:44 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

sports, music lessons, computer games

These are the modern day hobbies and they are extremely expensive since kids think they need to have all the latest crap now days.


17 posted on 08/28/2011 2:55:11 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Tax-chick
Can't afford flying lessons and safaris to west africa.
18 posted on 08/28/2011 2:56:03 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Oh, that’s terribly sad. I have a son who wants flying lessons. “Turn 18, get a job, make me your life insurance beneficiary,” I said.


19 posted on 08/28/2011 2:57:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("True education is not an adjustment to the world, but a defense against the world.")
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I wish i hadn’t read your post...now I will have to eat more ice cream to deal with these stats.


20 posted on 08/28/2011 3:02:28 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: johniegrad

Demographic Winter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZeyYIsGdAA


21 posted on 08/28/2011 3:02:53 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I had all those hobbies too.

That and whittling. Dad found an old rusty pocket knife and gave it to me. I cleaned it up and cut stuff.

Dad and I would both be felons if we did something like that today.


22 posted on 08/28/2011 3:03:38 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Uh, um, let’s see...George soros had a great hobby as a kid..turning Jews into the gestapo.

I just had to throw that one in.


23 posted on 08/28/2011 3:04:14 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Just watch Demographic Winter at the link I posted on another post just prior to this one.


24 posted on 08/28/2011 3:06:41 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Today your hobbies would be:

1. stick=gun, cowboys and indians - violent, no guns allowed, racist.

2. Fort = military, violence. Might hurt yourself building it or playing in it.

3. Damin a creek - Eco criminal, EPA, Dept of Natl Resources fines and punishment.

4. House out of cardboard box - only allowed if you’re seeing what it’s like to be homeless.

5. Fishing. Again, need license, may snag endangered fish.

6. Pickup baseball game - too competitive, no adults telling everyone they’re all great, nobody to umpire and bring snacks nobody wants to eat.

7. Red light, Simon says, etc - all games where people can lose. No adults to supervise.

Of course I played these kinds of things too, but today ain’t yesterday.


25 posted on 08/28/2011 3:06:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: rbg81

Not many, I assure you. My son was born in Germany. The pediatrician’s office was downstairs from my doctor. I never saw one non-Islamic woman come in or out of that building other than myself.


26 posted on 08/28/2011 3:08:31 PM PDT by riri
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To: Tax-chick
X box
Cell phone
and all other electrons because they have a right too them
27 posted on 08/28/2011 3:08:43 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: MinorityRepublican

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28 posted on 08/28/2011 3:08:52 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Heh. Another son said he wanted a cell phone. “Turn 18, get a job, move out of our house,” I said.


29 posted on 08/28/2011 3:10:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("True education is not an adjustment to the world, but a defense against the world.")
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To: RoadTest
This whole subject is analyzed brilliantly in the book “America Alone” by Mark Steyn.

So many books, so little time...especially if I spend all my free time Freeping!

I've been to Germany once, about 20 years ago, to visit my sister and brother-in-law while they were stationed over there. I remember thinking I saw more dogs than children while I was there.

30 posted on 08/28/2011 3:14:15 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Nevil Shute´s No Highway had a lot to say about a lot of stuff,
child rearing and aircraft engineering being just a couple.
31 posted on 08/28/2011 3:19:05 PM PDT by onedoug (!)
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To: GeronL

Can’t afford hobbies?

Looks to me like it isn’t the kids that need a hobby~~~but the parents could use one~~~like making babies!!!!!


32 posted on 08/28/2011 3:27:57 PM PDT by Isabel2010
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To: MinorityRepublican
As a percentage of the overall population, Germany has fewer children than any other country in Europe. Only 16.5 percent of the population is younger than 18 years of age. In other European countries, like France, Great Britain and the Netherlands, those figures are over 20 percent. In Turkey, almost one-third of the country's population of more than 72 million people is younger than 18. The countries in Europe with the smallest populations of children are Germany, Bulgaria (16.7 percent) and Italy (16.9 percent).

Reminds me of Donald Rumsfeld: "As you know, you go to war with the Army you have. They're not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time."

If it comes to it, Germany will be going to war with an infantry of pensioners.

33 posted on 08/28/2011 3:56:22 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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Soccer is the #1 sport in Germany. Assuming fields are available, why doesn't the German government make an investment in youth soccer leagues?

We Americans may not find it exciting, but the equipment cost to parents is minimal: ball ($25), shin guards ($20), shoes ($40), a couple pairs of shorts, tee-shirts and socks and a game uniform ($75).

34 posted on 08/28/2011 3:58:25 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: MinorityRepublican

Having been there, I can say that Hamburg is the seediest of German cities (kind of like the Detroit or Cleveland of Germany). One area of the city has prostitutes in storefront windows. If a woman isn’t in the window, she’s busy earning money to pay for her kids’ hobbies.


35 posted on 08/28/2011 4:03:16 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: MinorityRepublican

I grew up poor and had plenty of hobbies. My favorite was collecting Monarch caterpillars and raising them into butterflies. Didn’t cost a penny.


36 posted on 08/28/2011 4:06:25 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

We have three blue swallowtail cocoons right now, and should have two more in a couple of days.


37 posted on 08/28/2011 4:38:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("True education is not an adjustment to the world, but a defense against the world.")
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To: MinorityRepublican

Is das wienerschnitzel broken?


38 posted on 08/28/2011 4:51:27 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: MinorityRepublican
“...German households can’t afford to finance hobbies for their children...”

That statement is an example of pure "entitlement mentality."

39 posted on 08/28/2011 4:54:37 PM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"About one-fifth of the households do not take annual vacations.

In most of the households, however, fundamental needs like food and clothing are covered, as well as annual birthday parties."

Wow! I'm fascinated by this article. I love the statement which suggests that an "annual birthday party" is a fundamental need like food and clothing. Mind boggling!

As for annual vacations, I take a one-week or a two-week vacation -- if I can afford it -- approximately every 3 or 4 years. SO WHAT!?

40 posted on 08/28/2011 5:14:02 PM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: GoodDay

Socialism tends to Socialize the populace into an infantile, animal-like state so see government-subsidize b-day parties isn’t surprising at all.


41 posted on 08/28/2011 5:24:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ViLaLuz

and then there are scumbags like this low-life who’s hobby is exploiting children. see paul hawes wanted fugitive http://www.paulhaweswanted.com


42 posted on 08/28/2011 5:26:45 PM PDT by rene901
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To: AZLiberty

better an army of pensioners with nothing to lose, than no army at all. Time is running short to save our western culture, it’s riding off into the sunset without even a backwards glance.


43 posted on 08/28/2011 5:38:34 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Socialism tends to Socialize the populace into an infantile, animal-like state so see government-subsidize b-day parties isn’t surprising at all.

Agreed. What I want to know is whether or not Germans themselves see any connection between their entitlements and their static economy (0.1% GDP growth so far in 2011).

44 posted on 08/28/2011 5:45:05 PM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: MinorityRepublican

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU


45 posted on 08/28/2011 6:37:24 PM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: GoodDay

Economies are driven by birthrate. Remember the “baby boom”ers that were born from 1946 to 1964? A 2.1 fertility rate means a static economy since that is minimum replacement level for a country.

It seems that as pretty much any country that becomes wealthy and has an increase in the standard of living the children become less of a priority. Entitlements only exacerbate that problem.


46 posted on 08/28/2011 6:48:34 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The end of socialism is death.


47 posted on 08/28/2011 7:43:08 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: MinorityRepublican

Maybe what they are missing is Hitler. He had all kinds of free camps and hobbies for the little kinder. Free uniforms too!

And games? Sheesh. Who can forget “find the Jew”? While those stupid American kids played “cowboys and indians” with sticks, the little German boys and girls got to play “Panzerfaust the Soviet tanks”!


48 posted on 08/28/2011 7:43:30 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (http://www.durban3nyc.com/. Go there and learn what those who seek to destroy Israel are up to)
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To: AZLiberty

“If it comes to it, Germany will be going to war with an infantry of pensioners.”

...or Muzzies, and good luck with their loyalty.


49 posted on 08/28/2011 8:16:37 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: stayathomemom

What “America Alone” says is that the developed nations are birth- controlling themselves right out of existence. Of course you know who’s reproducing at a high rate to fill in for them in Europe. (Here it’s Hispanics).


50 posted on 08/29/2011 5:46:24 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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