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The Nationís Cruelest Immigration Law
The New York Times ^ | August 28, 2011 | The New York Times/Editorial

Posted on 08/28/2011 5:56:29 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

The Alabama Legislature opened its session on March 1 on a note of humility and compassion. In the Senate, a Christian pastor asked God to grant members “wisdom and discernment” to do what is right. “Not what’s right in their own eyes,” he said, “but what’s right according to your word.” Soon after, both houses passed, and the governor signed, the country’s cruelest, most unforgiving immigration law. The law, which takes effect Sept. 1, is so inhumane that four Alabama church leaders — an Episcopal bishop, a Methodist bishop and a Roman Catholic archbishop and bishop — have sued to block it, saying it criminalizes acts of Christian compassion. It is a sweeping attempt to terrorize undocumented immigrants in every aspect of their lives, and to make potential criminals of anyone who may work or live with them or show them kindness.

It effectively makes it a crime to be an undocumented immigrant in Alabama, by criminalizing working, renting a home and failing to comply with federal registration laws that are largely obsolete. It nullifies any contracts when one party is an undocumented immigrant. It requires the police to check the papers of people they suspect to be here illegally.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: al; aliens; criminalaliens; dnctalkingpoints; immigrantlist; immigration; nytimes4illegals
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So is the church saying they have no problem with illegals who work using fake or stolen documents ? If an illegal steals my ID, is the church saying show compassion or show them kindness and allow them to destroy my credit and life ?
1 posted on 08/28/2011 5:56:31 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09
Those four I suppose. I think this business of claiming it's punishment to return Mexicans to Mexico is racist.

Mexico is one of the better countries to be in this world.

2 posted on 08/28/2011 5:59:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: moonshinner_09
Buying influence with drug money is a way of life in our present. The church is no less susceptible, as money spent buy influence.
3 posted on 08/28/2011 6:00:12 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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It effectively makes it a crime to be an undocumented immigrant in Alabama,

Change one word and it all makes sense...

It effectively makes it a crime to be an illegal immigrant in Alabama,

As someone said “words mean things”...:^)

4 posted on 08/28/2011 6:02:22 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: moonshinner_09

notice the left makes no distinction between legal and illegal immigrant and liberaltarians make none between citizens and foreigners.


5 posted on 08/28/2011 6:04:18 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: moonshinner_09

I fully support illegals stealing from churches that support illegals.


6 posted on 08/28/2011 6:05:19 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: moonshinner_09
"So is the church saying they have no problem with illegals who work using fake or stolen documents ?"

Sadly many (Not all) Churches (or more precisely Church Leaders) are akin to Political Parties when consideration of recruitment comes up. They will look the other way on illegalities as long as the parishioners pony up in the collection plate and keep bearing children to refresh their ranks.

7 posted on 08/28/2011 6:05:34 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: moonshinner_09

Roll Tide!!!


8 posted on 08/28/2011 6:05:42 PM PDT by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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"It effectively makes it a crime to be an undocumented immigrant in Alabama."

First, it is a lie to call them "undocumented" as most have forged documents of many kinds.
Second, being an immigrant or extended-vacationer who is here illegally is, by definition and by action, A CRIME.

9 posted on 08/28/2011 6:06:48 PM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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“...the country’s cruelest, most unforgiving immigration law.”

Says who? Liberal asshats like the NYT Editorial Staff? Sounds like the Alabama’s state gov’t is just ensuring the laws already on the books are going to be enforced because the Feds ain’t doing their job.

“The law is so inhumane that four Alabama church leaders — an Episcopal bishop, a Methodist bishop and a Roman Catholic archbishop and bishop — have sued to block it, saying it criminalizes acts of Christian compassion.”

So, let me get this straight:
According to most stories the NYT publishes, Christians are bad, ignorant, racist people and should be banned from praying in public or contributing to any political debate, except when it is in line with the NYT Editorial Staff’s opinions.

(Snort, Spit) The NYT can kiss why my white, Christian butt. And they can kiss my wife’s brown, Mexican butt, too. Opinions are like butt holes, everybody has one. Unfortunately for the NYT Ed Staff, their opinion is worth less than toilet paper (as is their newspaper).


10 posted on 08/28/2011 6:12:22 PM PDT by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: moonshinner_09

John 10:1 “Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber.


11 posted on 08/28/2011 6:12:34 PM PDT by ne1410s (Tolerate my intolerance or you too are intolerant!)
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Illegal immigrants are using churches, courts, or politcal figures to get what they want. The churches should encourage them to do the right thing if they were following scripture.


12 posted on 08/28/2011 6:23:48 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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I’ll tell them what’s “cruel.” The beatings, rapes, robberies, murders, drunk driving, child abuse, animal abuse, identity thefts, job-stealing, neighborhood-ruining, emergency room-ruining, disease-spreading, school-wrecking, and all the other things illegals do to Americans! Do they give a @#$@! about that?!


13 posted on 08/28/2011 6:25:31 PM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: muawiyah
Mexico is one of the better countries to be in this world.

Yes just ask any Mexican. It is the greatest of countries. They don't want to live there..but that is a "technical issue". As Carlos Mencia said: "it's easy to get a white European in this country to say Europe sucks...but you can never get a Mexican to say Mexico sucks"...LOL!

14 posted on 08/28/2011 6:28:15 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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To: moonshinner_09

What no barf alert? I’m nauseated. It’s a crime to be in the USA w/o docs? /sarc


15 posted on 08/28/2011 6:29:06 PM PDT by Brasky
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To: Niteflyr
I used to think the Mexicans were nuts who talked that way, but one day I took a good hard look at their economy vis a vis the third-world, and Mexico looks like a shining city on a hill with truth and justice behind it and streets of gold.

I've also found people from Africa, in general, can't readily tell the difference between a Mexican and an American ~ particularly not in movies.

Indians, Arabs and North Africans may be confused a bit about how much they resemble Mexicans but how differently they act. Lots of history there ~

At the same time there's little confusion on the part of Americans and Mexicans about who is who.

16 posted on 08/28/2011 6:37:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mad Dawgg

There were many “progressive students” in the 1960s, like hillary rodam clinton who placed themselves in various areas of our government, churches, charitable organizations and education and over the years gained the “top seats”. We’re now seeing our short sightedness in not stopping them in the 1960s. We see a horrible example of our short sightedness in the EPA. We’re spending ourselves into a hole, begging for energy from other countries while sitting on the world’s largest energy supplies, thanks to the EPA and our gutless elected representatives.


17 posted on 08/28/2011 6:40:51 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: moonshinner_09

The only cruelty here is mercilessly leaving Americans exposed to the massive crime wave flowing up out of Central America.


18 posted on 08/28/2011 6:47:35 PM PDT by icanhasbailout (Draft Napolitano 2012)
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To: Ernie Kaputnik

I can see the argument for the illegals now. “OH goodness gracious, by sending these illegals back to their home lands, we’ll be splitting families apart” OH MY, HOW TERRIBLE!! Well how in God’s good name was this country, even Canada and Australia begun?????????????? A family member came to this continent and LEFT THEIR FAMILY/IES in the OLD COUNTRY. Many times whole church leaders brought their frock to this land and left part of the families in the “old country”. Many Mexican men come to this country to work and leave their families in Mexico, sometimes for a few years, some even began “american families”, with American Mexicans then they’d go back to their “old family”. Don’t tell me it’s creul to leave the family behind, it’s been done time after time. These polly annas walk around with their brains stored where the sun don’t shine. Give me a break...split families...phfffft!


19 posted on 08/28/2011 6:51:02 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: moonshinner_09

The law sounds like a good start to me.


20 posted on 08/28/2011 6:57:45 PM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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